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Banned for having ‘Snowflake’ as a title?!

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  • DefRobotDefRobot

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    First of all, it’s a very good song. Really well crafted and performed and recorded. Congratulations.

    But “banned from Reddit”? That seems...unlikely? A simple google search of “snowflake” and “reddit” turns up thousands of hits, many of the dismissive variety. Possibly banned from a subreddit?

    But it’s interesting how quickly some people believe that a lyrically innocuous song was banned for its misconstrued title on zero evidence.

    And it may well have been banned!

    But — no offense — it’s a little like the guy telling his buddies he didn’t get the girl because he was too good-looking.
    @DefRobot What did they say when you were banned?

    I don’t believe any word should be banned ever. Which doesn’t mean that people who intentionally insult or degrade others should be free from consequence.

    Obviously, “snowflake” should not be prohibited from speech. But those who use the term do tell a lot about themselves.

    John Cleese said it best:
    Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.

    Thanks for your kind comments on the song 👍🏻

    There is a massive lack of empathy in society today. Couldn’t tell you why. Have people been bludgeoned with so much bad news and what is right or wrong, that they can’t be bothered anymore?
    It’s a sad state of affairs.

    I’ve just asked the person who posted it what Reddit said and it was along the lines of
    ‘Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose.’

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @DefRobot said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    First of all, it’s a very good song. Really well crafted and performed and recorded. Congratulations.

    But “banned from Reddit”? That seems...unlikely? A simple google search of “snowflake” and “reddit” turns up thousands of hits, many of the dismissive variety. Possibly banned from a subreddit?

    But it’s interesting how quickly some people believe that a lyrically innocuous song was banned for its misconstrued title on zero evidence.

    And it may well have been banned!

    But — no offense — it’s a little like the guy telling his buddies he didn’t get the girl because he was too good-looking.
    @DefRobot What did they say when you were banned?

    I don’t believe any word should be banned ever. Which doesn’t mean that people who intentionally insult or degrade others should be free from consequence.

    Obviously, “snowflake” should not be prohibited from speech. But those who use the term do tell a lot about themselves.

    John Cleese said it best:
    Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.

    Thanks for your kind comments on the song 👍🏻

    There is a massive lack of empathy in society today. Couldn’t tell you why. Have people been bludgeoned with so much bad news and what is right or wrong, that they can’t be bothered anymore?
    It’s a sad state of affairs.

    I’ve just asked the person who posted it what Reddit said and it was along the lines of
    ‘Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose.’

    You should try again. It’s a good song!

  • StiksiStiksi

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    John Cleese said it best:
    Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.

    This is a very good summary, not surprised it’s from John Cleese.

  • mannixmannix
    edited December 2019

    @rs2000 said:

    @jolico said:

    @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    A snowflake was offended.

    Wow, does Reddit take care of minorities? 😅

    @DefRobot: Have you tried "Snowman"?

    Snowman is also offence because man doesn't cover all genders
    The word is at the moment Snowbeing

  • mannixmannix
    edited December 2019

    @DefRobot said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    First of all, it’s a very good song. Really well crafted and performed and recorded. Congratulations.

    But “banned from Reddit”? That seems...unlikely? A simple google search of “snowflake” and “reddit” turns up thousands of hits, many of the dismissive variety. Possibly banned from a subreddit?

    But it’s interesting how quickly some people believe that a lyrically innocuous song was banned for its misconstrued title on zero evidence.

    And it may well have been banned!

    But — no offense — it’s a little like the guy telling his buddies he didn’t get the girl because he was too good-looking.
    @DefRobot What did they say when you were banned?

    I don’t believe any word should be banned ever. Which doesn’t mean that people who intentionally insult or degrade others should be free from consequence.

    Obviously, “snowflake” should not be prohibited from speech. But those who use the term do tell a lot about themselves.

    John Cleese said it best:
    Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.

    Thanks for your kind comments on the song 👍🏻

    There is a massive lack of empathy in society today. Couldn’t tell you why. Have people been bludgeoned with so much bad news and what is right or wrong, that they can’t be bothered anymore?
    It’s a sad state of affairs.

    I’ve just asked the person who posted it what Reddit said and it was along the lines of
    ‘Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose.’

    Problem is that not all moderators are the same. Some moderators bring their biases with them. Moderation is a difficult job. That said Reddit has become more and more a too walled safesace.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @mannix said:

    @DefRobot said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    First of all, it’s a very good song. Really well crafted and performed and recorded. Congratulations.

    But “banned from Reddit”? That seems...unlikely? A simple google search of “snowflake” and “reddit” turns up thousands of hits, many of the dismissive variety. Possibly banned from a subreddit?

    But it’s interesting how quickly some people believe that a lyrically innocuous song was banned for its misconstrued title on zero evidence.

    And it may well have been banned!

    But — no offense — it’s a little like the guy telling his buddies he didn’t get the girl because he was too good-looking.
    @DefRobot What did they say when you were banned?

    I don’t believe any word should be banned ever. Which doesn’t mean that people who intentionally insult or degrade others should be free from consequence.

    Obviously, “snowflake” should not be prohibited from speech. But those who use the term do tell a lot about themselves.

    John Cleese said it best:
    Yes I've heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.

    Thanks for your kind comments on the song 👍🏻

    There is a massive lack of empathy in society today. Couldn’t tell you why. Have people been bludgeoned with so much bad news and what is right or wrong, that they can’t be bothered anymore?
    It’s a sad state of affairs.

    I’ve just asked the person who posted it what Reddit said and it was along the lines of
    ‘Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose.’

    Problem is that not all moderators are the same. Some moderators bring their biases with them. Moderation is a difficult job. That said Reddit has become more and more a too walled safesace.

    Over the years I used it for cat gif kind of stuff every now and then but failed to see the attraction with Reddit. Its like some disembodied high school social dogpile of gamified neediness.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Not biting on this one, but if you're interested in the background to the word/adoption/use etc etc:

    https://ew.com/books/2017/11/17/chuck-palahniuk-snowflake-insult/

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited December 2019

    20 years from now it will be cool to be called snowflake if you are under 20 years of age.... maybe that has happened already? i don't know because im old...

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @[Deleted User] said:
    20 years from now it will be cool to be called snowflake if you are under 20 years of age.

    Ok Computer

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    It's not a word that offends, it's always the behavior. I see an huge hypocrisy in this society. They are worried about a word, and not about the people of the next door who are starving. They should be afraid of the dark they have in their hearts.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @Faland said:
    It's not a word that offends, it's always the behavior. I see an huge hypocrisy in this society. They are worried about a word, and not about the people of the next door who are starving. They should be afraid of the dark they have in their hearts.

    We are afraid of the dark in our hearts, which is why we use language as a filter/distraction. It can be seen as pain management to a certain degree. Someone said language was invented so that people could lie. I imagine this applies to lying to ourselves just as much as to others.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99
    edited December 2019

    Can we just back up for a second? No one is worried about a word. No one knows exactly why this video wasn't approved for whatever subreddit it was submitted to. For all we know, it was too large a file, or maybe the single moderator was having a bad day. It's completely nuts that a certain population imagines that there's a language police algorithm written to destroy culture at work here.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Can we just back up for a second? No one is worried about a word. No one knows exactly why this video wasn't approved for whatever subreddit it was submitted to. For all we know, it was too large a file, or maybe the single moderator was having a bad day. It's completely nuts that a certain population imagines that there's a language police algorithm written to destroy culture at work here.

    Reported

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @AudioGus said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Can we just back up for a second? No one is worried about a word. No one knows exactly why this video wasn't approved for whatever subreddit it was submitted to. For all we know, it was too large a file, or maybe the single moderator was having a bad day. It's completely nuts that a certain population imagines that there's a language police algorithm written to destroy culture at work here.

    Reported

    FTW!
    Perfect

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Can we just back up for a second? No one is worried about a word. No one knows exactly why this video wasn't approved for whatever subreddit it was submitted to. For all we know, it was too large a file, or maybe the single moderator was having a bad day. It's completely nuts that a certain population imagines that there's a language police algorithm written to destroy culture at work here.

    Reported

    FTW!
    Perfect

    Ohhh, sweet sweet dopamine... thank you.

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  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited December 2019

    @tja said:
    The world gets more stupid every single day.
    I don't believe in god, but if there would be a god, he / she / it would be ashamed about what humanity is developing into.

    Dayum son! you sure know how to raise the bar / hoist the mast / stir the soup on these threads.

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  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited December 2019

    @tja said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @tja said:
    The world gets more stupid every single day.
    I don't believe in god, but if there would be a god, he / she / it would be ashamed about what humanity is developing into.

    Dayum son! you sure know how to raise the bar / hoist the mast / stir the soup on these threads.

    Don't understand.
    I am baffled about the word "snowflake" being a reason for bans.
    What's so problematic with this?

    Anyway

    Just imagine Linus is a Republican?

  • MarkHMarkH

    Is this banned? I found it under r/UKBands. I don't know anything about Reddit, so maybe it's a different kind of banned.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @MarkH said:
    Is this banned? I found it under r/UKBands. I don't know anything about Reddit, so maybe it's a different kind of banned.

    Ooooohh. BAND... not BANNED, duh... see? Cursed language!

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  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited December 2019

    @tja said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @tja said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @tja said:
    The world gets more stupid every single day.
    I don't believe in god, but if there would be a god, he / she / it would be ashamed about what humanity is developing into.

    Dayum son! you sure know how to raise the bar / hoist the mast / stir the soup on these threads.

    Don't understand.
    I am baffled about the word "snowflake" being a reason for bans.
    What's so problematic with this?

    Anyway

    Just imagine Linus is a Republican?

    I am from old Europe and seem not to understand what you are referring too :smile:

    Ahh Ok. Hmmm, well ‘snowflake’ seems to be a word that is used lately in North America to describe someone who is seen as being too sensitive or weak. Some people see it as a word used mainly by right wing political people to insult people on the left.

    (It may have been popularized by the movie Fight Club)

    ( I don’t know about the whole ‘banning’ thing though. )

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Faland said:
    Sorry, no native English here, what’s the problem with the word snowflakes?

    From what I understand (no native English speaker either), "Snowflake" is being used to make fun of people (especially various minorities) that are easily offended (i.e. "they have a personality that is as sensitive as a snowflake and can be easily crushed").

    Due to the recently increasing paranoia, many platforms are afraid of being accused of "hate speech", harassment etc. if someone possibly might be offending someone else, so they rather delete one too many posts than one too few to avoid being shutdown or paying hefty fines.

    @SevenSystems : your understanding of how "snowflake" is used in social/political context in the U.S. is not accurate. More accurately: it is used by people (usually people insensitive to racism) to troll people who think that racism and racial stereotypes are offensive. Until recently, it was a term mostly used by people sympathetic to right-wing ideologies here in the U.S. . More recently, it has been thrown back at the right-wing when they express dismay at being called out for their point of view.

    To say that it is used to make fun of people that are "easily offended" implies that those people shouldn't be offended. In the U.S., it has usually been thrown around by people who don't like having their racism (which has historically been tolerated) called out. They use it to act as if people who have historically been powerless should continue to tolerate disrespect.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @espiegel123 said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Faland said:
    Sorry, no native English here, what’s the problem with the word snowflakes?

    From what I understand (no native English speaker either), "Snowflake" is being used to make fun of people (especially various minorities) that are easily offended (i.e. "they have a personality that is as sensitive as a snowflake and can be easily crushed").

    Due to the recently increasing paranoia, many platforms are afraid of being accused of "hate speech", harassment etc. if someone possibly might be offending someone else, so they rather delete one too many posts than one too few to avoid being shutdown or paying hefty fines.

    @SevenSystems : your understanding of how "snowflake" is used in social/political context in the U.S. is not accurate. More accurately: it is used by people (usually people insensitive to racism) to troll people who think that racism and racial stereotypes are offensive. Until recently, it was a term mostly used by people sympathetic to right-wing ideologies here in the U.S. . More recently, it has been thrown back at the right-wing when they express dismay at being called out for their point of view.

    To say that it is used to make fun of people that are "easily offended" implies that those people shouldn't be offended. In the U.S., it has usually been thrown around by people who don't like having their racism (which has historically been tolerated) called out. They use it to act as if people who have historically been powerless should continue to tolerate disrespect.

    Where I am it is being used but has nothing to do with racism. That association would definitely put a spin on things.

  • McDMcD

    Ice Crystal. Snow Particle. Frozen Droplet. Crystalline Lattice.

    And I thought a Honky was someone that over used their car horn. Too obscure?

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @McD said:
    Ice Crystal. Snow Particle. Frozen Droplet. Crystalline Lattice.

    And I thought a Honky was someone that over used their car horn. Too obscure?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    Btw, I am not suggesting Reddit did the right thing. I was just giving some context to SevenSystems that could easily be missed from afar.

  • FunkMachineFunkMachine

    @rs2000 said:

    @jolico said:

    @rs2000 said:
    What was the reason for the ban?

    A snowflake was offended.

    Wow, does Reddit take care of minorities? 😅

    @DefRobot: Have you tried "Snowman"?

    Or maybe even, “Snowperson”? (Just to be on the safe side😂)

  • Paul16Paul16
    edited December 2019

    @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    What SJWs and anti-SJWs don't seem to understand is that everything boils down to POLITENESS. If you don't know the person, be polite. Nobody knows where a person is coming from nor their background nor what they went through in their past unless you get to know that person.

    Another thing sorely lacking in today's society is a little thing known as "the benefit of the doubt". Again, this applies to both sides. In regards to the OP's song, there's nothing wrong with it. It has a nice 70s Pop vibe to it and has a happy message. However, I can see how the first verse can be taken way out of context.

    "I'm on top of the top of my stuff.
    I'm a universe and you're a dot.
    I got a mood that you can't stop.
    This feeling's what I got. I'm a winner and you're not."

    (If I got any of the lyrics wrong, forgive me mate.)

    If you don't make it to the chorus, one automatically assumes the song is an offensive diddy about poking fun of people with a thin skin rather than what the OP actually intended. Mods don't have time to sit and listen through an entire song, and so they make an ASS of U and ME by assuming what something is about. Did the OP deserve an outright ban though? Hell no! The mods should've simply removed the song if they found it offensive, or better yet, listened to the whole thing. But as I said, mods on Reddit don't have time to listen to a whole song.

    I'm just trying to bring context to this whole fiasco from a "middle ground" perspective.

    It’s a bait and switch. You get berated for not being polite and next thing you know you are cancelled.

    So no, it’s not about being polite or good manners at all.

    It is a totalitarian mindset and You MUST NOT THINK UNAPPROVED THOUGHTS.

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