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  • drcongodrcongo

    @TheoVoid said:
    The Anti semitism is just a projection from people who are just searching for a reason to be offended.

    Are they searching as hard as the person who came into a thread they hadn’t read just to tell everyone how offended they were that other people have opinions?

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    @AudioGus said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @TheoVoid said:
    To the perpetually offended types :
    We get it. You are the morally superior being!
    Behringer man bad.

    So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.

    Do you want a cookie ?
    No one gives a fuck.

    You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.

    We get it. You are very special and very fragile.

    Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?

    The virtue signaling is just insufferable.

    @TheoVoid said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @TheoVoid said:
    To the perpetually offended types :
    We get it. You are the morally superior being!
    Behringer man bad.

    So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.

    Do you want a cookie ?
    No one gives a fuck.

    You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.

    We get it. You are very special and very fragile.

    Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?

    The virtue signaling is just insufferable.

    You clearly didn't actually read the posts.

    Your summary both misrepresents what was said and indicates that you have no interest in understanding other people's points of view.

    Most of the "outrage" has been from the people longing for the good old days when people just took their marginalization without talking back.

    You are correct. I did not bother to read another 300 posts about this utterly stupid controversy.

    I already did that yesterday on gearslutz and Reddit and Facebook.

    Totally over all the whiny pc bullshit that floods the Internet day after day.
    It’s usually politics but now it’s spilled over into the synth world.
    So that’s great.

    If you don’t like Behringer then don’t buy their shit.
    The world doesn’t need to hear why. We already know why.

    @TheoVoid said:

    @TheoVoid said:

    @jrjulius said:

    @cian said:
    Somebody mentioned Behringer using patents aggressively. Is there more info on that?

    I mis-typed — meant trademarks. The dangers of writing long posts on your phone. I’m not aware of any patent-based aggression.

    @TheoVoid said:

    To the perpetually offended types :
    We get it. You are the morally superior being!
    Behringer man bad.

    So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.

    Do you want a cookie ?
    No one gives a fuck.

    You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.

    We get it. You are very special and very fragile.

    Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?

    The virtue signaling is just insufferable.

    Find me one person more offended than Uli Behringer tho. Kirn, the target of Uli’s little tirade, reacted calmly while the rest of us more-or-less calmly discussed whether to keep supporting the company in light of this and other questionable behaviour. Uli’s also big on virtue-signaling fwiw: https://www.attackmagazine.com/news/uli-behringer-addresses-the-haters/

    My social media feed captures most of the outlets that covered this “controversy” and for every thin-skinned comment about not liking Behringer I’ll show you a thin-skinned comment about how pathetic people that don’t like Behringer’s approach are. We’re all using the same platforms and the same freedoms to express our opinions; telling someone to “get over it” is no less of a virtue-signal than telling someone to “be angry.” Also afaik this hasn’t spilled into other threads, which means you waded through “30,000 posts” just to tell us what you thought. Shouldn’t someone with a thick skin just let it go?

    Re: anti-Semitism, the video featured some potentially-risky imagery, people asked questions, it turned out to be nothing, people let it go. Doesn’t mean they were wrong to ask.

    Now it’s time for some hard truths (erm, opinions) of my own: When a company is punching so low to begin with, they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. Also, you seem angry about other people’s personal ethical choices.

    TBH. It’s been a slow couple of days at work and Im super bored.

    This was mildly entertaining for awhile but the sheer amount of words being posted about this is just insane.
    I’m not angry. I just like to post my opinion to counter all the ridiculous PC crap I’ve been reading. Life’s about balance.

    I bet 90% of the people posting about how terrible Uli is and how they’re done with Behringer are just posturing for some sweet Internet/woke points. When it comes down to it they’ll still buy the affordable awesomeness that Behringer supplies.

    Meanwhile Uli is laughing all the way to the bank.

    All publicity is good publicity.

    Clearly even the outraged are entertained by his antics which is evidenced by the GB’s of data being posted on the internet about this since it happened.

    But by all means. Carry on the social justice campaign against Behringer. I’m sure Uli is just crying himself to sleep over it.

    The Anti semitism is just a projection from people who are just searching for a reason to be offended.

    People who bang on about Social Justice Warriors / Political Correctness Gone mad etc etc, always seem to be the type of people whose behaviour has created such things.
    Still it generally makesit easier to spot the asshurt privileged white males online.

    Lol, 'white males'. Throw in 'old' too and make extra friends.

    Ha ha only the asshurt ones who are frightened at the beginning of the end of their world.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @CRAKROX said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @CRAKROX said:

    @TheoVoid said:
    To the perpetually offended types :
    We get it. You are the morally superior being!
    Behringer man bad.

    So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.

    Do you want a cookie ?
    No one gives a fuck.

    You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.

    We get it. You are very special and very fragile.

    Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?

    The virtue signaling is just insufferable.

    @TheoVoid said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @TheoVoid said:
    To the perpetually offended types :
    We get it. You are the morally superior being!
    Behringer man bad.

    So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.

    Do you want a cookie ?
    No one gives a fuck.

    You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.

    We get it. You are very special and very fragile.

    Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?

    The virtue signaling is just insufferable.

    You clearly didn't actually read the posts.

    Your summary both misrepresents what was said and indicates that you have no interest in understanding other people's points of view.

    Most of the "outrage" has been from the people longing for the good old days when people just took their marginalization without talking back.

    You are correct. I did not bother to read another 300 posts about this utterly stupid controversy.

    I already did that yesterday on gearslutz and Reddit and Facebook.

    Totally over all the whiny pc bullshit that floods the Internet day after day.
    It’s usually politics but now it’s spilled over into the synth world.
    So that’s great.

    If you don’t like Behringer then don’t buy their shit.
    The world doesn’t need to hear why. We already know why.

    @TheoVoid said:

    @TheoVoid said:

    @jrjulius said:

    @cian said:
    Somebody mentioned Behringer using patents aggressively. Is there more info on that?

    I mis-typed — meant trademarks. The dangers of writing long posts on your phone. I’m not aware of any patent-based aggression.

    @TheoVoid said:

    To the perpetually offended types :
    We get it. You are the morally superior being!
    Behringer man bad.

    So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.

    Do you want a cookie ?
    No one gives a fuck.

    You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.

    We get it. You are very special and very fragile.

    Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?

    The virtue signaling is just insufferable.

    Find me one person more offended than Uli Behringer tho. Kirn, the target of Uli’s little tirade, reacted calmly while the rest of us more-or-less calmly discussed whether to keep supporting the company in light of this and other questionable behaviour. Uli’s also big on virtue-signaling fwiw: https://www.attackmagazine.com/news/uli-behringer-addresses-the-haters/

    My social media feed captures most of the outlets that covered this “controversy” and for every thin-skinned comment about not liking Behringer I’ll show you a thin-skinned comment about how pathetic people that don’t like Behringer’s approach are. We’re all using the same platforms and the same freedoms to express our opinions; telling someone to “get over it” is no less of a virtue-signal than telling someone to “be angry.” Also afaik this hasn’t spilled into other threads, which means you waded through “30,000 posts” just to tell us what you thought. Shouldn’t someone with a thick skin just let it go?

    Re: anti-Semitism, the video featured some potentially-risky imagery, people asked questions, it turned out to be nothing, people let it go. Doesn’t mean they were wrong to ask.

    Now it’s time for some hard truths (erm, opinions) of my own: When a company is punching so low to begin with, they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. Also, you seem angry about other people’s personal ethical choices.

    TBH. It’s been a slow couple of days at work and Im super bored.

    This was mildly entertaining for awhile but the sheer amount of words being posted about this is just insane.
    I’m not angry. I just like to post my opinion to counter all the ridiculous PC crap I’ve been reading. Life’s about balance.

    I bet 90% of the people posting about how terrible Uli is and how they’re done with Behringer are just posturing for some sweet Internet/woke points. When it comes down to it they’ll still buy the affordable awesomeness that Behringer supplies.

    Meanwhile Uli is laughing all the way to the bank.

    All publicity is good publicity.

    Clearly even the outraged are entertained by his antics which is evidenced by the GB’s of data being posted on the internet about this since it happened.

    But by all means. Carry on the social justice campaign against Behringer. I’m sure Uli is just crying himself to sleep over it.

    The Anti semitism is just a projection from people who are just searching for a reason to be offended.

    People who bang on about Social Justice Warriors / Political Correctness Gone mad etc etc, always seem to be the type of people whose behaviour has created such things.
    Still it generally makesit easier to spot the asshurt privileged white males online.

    Lol, 'white males'. Throw in 'old' too and make extra friends.

    Ha ha only the asshurt ones who are frightened at the beginning of the end of their world.

  • drezdrez
    edited March 2020

    For people being upset about some company being mean to someone, and then other people upset that they are upset about it, there sure is a lot of people being mean to each other in this thread 🤨

    It’s good to remember that It’s off topic and that generally rises opinions o’plenty. Seems like it’s got a decent discussion going on underneath the jabs. I have been educated by other world views. I appreciate those that have shown different viewpoints of the same car wreck 🙏

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @drez said:
    For people being upset about some company being mean to someone, and then other people upset that they are upset about it, there sure is a lot of people being mean to each other in this thread 🤨

    It’s good to remember that It’s off topic and that generally rises opinions o’plenty. Seems like it’s got a decent discussion going on underneath the jabs. I have been educated by other world views. I appreciate those that have shown different viewpoints of the same car wreck 🙏

    :)

  • mister_rzmister_rz

    @AudioGus said:
    I also shared my traumatic experience of seeing a woman take a dump in front of a bank that NO ONE validated. :angry:

    There are sudden stool support groups you can speak to gus, don’t carry this burden alone, godspeed.

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    Why is no one offended for the French?

    I love my Wing. Can't wait for the 2600. I've never been a Behringer fan but some of their recent hardware has been home runs, albeit not frequently original.

  • ciancian

    @AudioGus said:

    I also shared my traumatic experience of seeing a woman take a dump in front of a bank that NO ONE validated. :angry:

    Have you considered the possibility that everybody else on this thread has at some point in time taken a dump in front of a bank? That you're the weirdo here?

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    @cian said:

    @AudioGus said:

    I also shared my traumatic experience of seeing a woman take a dump in front of a bank that NO ONE validated. :angry:

    Have you considered the possibility that everybody else on this thread has at some point in time taken a dump in front of a bank? That you're the weirdo here?

    See, this is an example of mixed up thinking, you should always make your deposits inside the bank.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    Drez, you're right. The forum tends to exaggerate differences, and it rewards polarization.

    I was really disheartened yesterday, though. I couldn't fathom the disparity in responses. I do wonder if there's a pronounced difference in perception of anti-Semitism between Americans and Europeans.

    Here's a story that just happened to appear in The New York Times. It's about a girl in New Jersey who gets into an elite high school. Early on there are kind of weird Jewish jokes. She comes from a town much closer to NYC, with a large Jewish population. There are only a handful of Jewish kids at the new school.
    Kids are reading "Mein Kampf" in study hall. Are they just being provocative? Is she being oversensitive.

    One day, a picture appears in a school group chat. "I H8 Jews," written in sand at a beach with a student posing next to it. He's smiling. Obviously it's meant to be edgy humor. But we can all agree that it crossed a line and that the boys who did it deserved to be suspended for four days.

    (Can we agree on that?)

    The point of the story seems to be, At what point are edgy jokes accruing and making this girl feel unsafe and hated?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Don't the banks dump on people all the time?

  • McDMcD
    edited March 2020

    We seem to have shifted to a world where it's really hard to maintain ethical purity. I'm not ready to had off to the monastery to improve my odds of finding the least harm life.

    I have to accept that my Apple products probably mean someone works in a soul less factory at lousy wages, without benefits or fair treatment as a human.

    Driving a car means adding to the slow demise of the planet as a viable habitat for most life forms.

    Consuming entertainment leads to the degradation of woman and exploitation of children.

    And on and on... there's a complex decision matrix that can only be optimized but never made perfect.

    It doesn't appear that Behringer's critic was sufficiently harmed (IMHO) and since he lives on the internets a critic in a professional sense he probably benefitted with the exposure of this whole escapade.

    For consideration of antisemitism, I'd rather focus on the right of Israel to exist as a nation and not some allusion to classic characters and any mention of the human nose. We all have one and length closely associated with untruth than a racial group. I consider Jews to primarily be a maligned and disadvantaged social group that just can't seem to have a home or the respect they deserve for their accomplishments and contributions as a group. Go figure. Sunni v. Shite... Catholic v Protestant all seem like a better match-up than all Muslims v Jews. But I digress.

    So... I will continue to evaluate Behringer's products with my usual criteria: if I want the best I'll disregard price and if I want some functionality at the lowest cost I'll add them to my list of options.

    I'm looking around for Behringer products and I only see a box of guitar pedals that I bought when I was considering putting together a pedal board that IOS made irrelevant.

    Uli seems to be a brilliant entrepreneur that built an empire on price like a Sam Walton, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates or Henry Ford. It's far too easy to vilify them for the evil they do putting Mom and Pop shops out of business or making the IBM's of the world loose shareholder value.

    Ethical considerations force us to navigate cesspools of shades of grey or some real hazardous materials. As always... try and stay current if you can with the underlying issues.

    I have always thought the concentration of high tech manufacturing in China could only happen in a authoritarian country that considers people to be disposable in comparison to
    other national objects. They are not smarter than the rest or willing to work harder... they just made some questionable ethical decisions to compete. We outsourced a lot of environmental health risks to the poorer countries of asia.

    Similar ideas at the level of public policy... shades of grey and intended/unintended consequences.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    Back to the original topic of Behringer being a bully. There has been an ongoing discussion between music journalist friends of mine (I was in the business for years) and their journalist friends. They are all struggling with whether or not to be public about their feelings about what Behringer has done and how to go about the business of making decisions about how to cover Behringer -- given Behringer's past and present history of bullying. None of them has encountered a company in the industry that has behaved this way.

    They are conflicted in that they feel professionally obligated to review Behringer hardware fairly based on its merits/demerits. And they don't really feel like being cogs in a machine that funnels money to to a bully. There also seems to be the thought that Behringer wasn't just having a little fun -- Behringer wasn't just being a jerk to a single journalist, he/they were also intending to intimidate others (just as they have done with their lawsuits).

    (And as best as I can tell, none of them takes Behringer's apology to Peter as anything other than an attempt to put the controversy behind them while Peter has been classy and chosen not to vent.)

    I am not saying anyone should boycott, but do be aware who you are doing business with.

  • AmpAppsAmpApps

    Guy in camo fatigues with AR-15 in line at Starbucks calls pink haired trans person snowflake.

    Mind crushing stupidity.

    No one convinced me that Behringer is not a petty, chicken shit, company.

    Snowflakes calling people snowflakes. Not all that impressive.

    Freedom of thought.

  • ApexApex

    I’m buying the shit out of that BARP 2600

  • McDMcD

    @espiegel123 said:
    Back to the original topic of Behringer being a bully.

    Do you lend any credence to the idea that Behringer might consider they work to be engineered to be as good or better than some of the old gear but someone might use their
    personal "antennae" to prove that the original hardware is better? Just an idea... I have never read a single word from this particular critic (I use that as a word to describe a reviewer as is the general practice with works of art). Im that sense I see Behringer's video a response to
    that phenomena of the snob/elite that uses personal criteria to review products that are a good value... that often could be tested with blind A/B tests and compete on merit and not subjective criteria that might be the process of a reviewer.

    I'm not taking sides but interested in more opinions about a hardware vendor maligning someone that inputs their brand and ability to influence potential customers to buy. Make no mistake... Behringer pulled the video and apologized to protect revenues. How they feel about this situation is a shared group of beliefs spread across the employees of a hugh Corporation with a titular leader where the buck stops.

    I gotta Google what "buck" means in this Harry Truman context: "Th Buck stops here."
    To do what? Drink? Procreate? Be converted to coins?

    Aha... the passing of blame.

    The expression is said to have originated from poker in which a marker or counter (such as a knife with a buckhorn handle during the American Frontier era) was used to indicate the person whose turn it was to deal. If the player did not wish to deal he could pass the responsibility by passing the "buck," as the counter came to be called, to the next player.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2020

    I'm in total agreement by now that Behringer (or at least it's founder) are idiots and bullies. Also, never having heard of that blogger before, I now have quite a lot of respect for his handling of it, and thus his character. He seems to be much more resilient and level headed than some of the people reacting to the whole situation. I think I'd like that guy a lot if I knew him. I'm absolutely sure I'd hate Uli Behringer if I knew him.

    Things I didn't know:

    • They tried to sue private individuals on a forum to shut them up (once). That was despicable.
    • They ran with their tails between their legs when someone made a good move in invoking legal protections against such things. Yay!
    • They are amazingly tone-deaf in not recognizing that their imaging would be conflated with similar anti-Jewish propaganda. Not being a European, I wasn't aware of the similarity to well-known (in Europe) images, but they should have been.
    • The trademark thing? Oh hell yeh, that was just plain childish and idiotic.
    • Their un-originality is pervasive, going beyond just their products. They piggybacked on someone else’s artwork rather than coming up with their own, and borrowed someone else's joke. So amazingly characteristic, and lame.
    • @AudioGus once saw a woman take a dump in front of a bank.

    So now, I dislike them much more than before. That won't affect any purchasing decisions on my part as any piddling amount I would spend would have absolutely zero impact on changing their behavior either way. I'm for acting on principle when it matters, but in this case it doesn't.

    The insulting dialog of some while discussing this has been disheartening, but I'm glad I hung in there to learn a few things.

    (P.S. I did think the video was funny when I first saw it out of context. I think I woulda laughed along with it even if it was directed at me. But I'd be pissed as hell about the tradmarking of my name and would want to see if I could slap back on that one.)

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @wim: "So now, I dislike them much less than before. "

    Typo? Did you mean you dislike them more perhaps?

    Btw, Peter isn't just a blogger. Short version: when niche print media started dying, Peter was determined to create an electronic publication to cover electronic music and graphics tools for creative artists and did a great job. And he has a genuine interest in creative apps and solutions.

  • jrjuliusjrjulius

    @McD said:

    Do you lend any credence to the idea that Behringer might consider they work to be engineered to be as good or better than some of the old gear but someone might use their
    personal "antennae" to prove that the original hardware is better?

    Uli recently made a statement that outlines his thoughts on the matter: https://www.attackmagazine.com/news/uli-behringer-addresses-the-haters/

    Key takeaway for me is, “Technology is free for everyone to use unless it’s protected. That’s exactly the reason why the law was designed the way it is, so it encourages competition – all for the benefit of you the customers and for society to progress.”

    However, despite supposedly having total faith in their purpose, the company doesn’t deal with criticism well: https://cdm.link/2018/06/behringer-have-sued-dave-smith-instruments-forum-posters-for-defamation/

    I get that cloning and reverse engineering is a fact of life and most companies do it to stay in business. But when it’s almost literally your whole business model, maybe don’t flip out when people say as much. Imagine if Moog sought lawsuits every time someone called their products “overpriced for what you get.” I sometimes wonder if Behringer takes all the money they save on R&D and pours it into petty disputes.

    Anyhow! The point is, you’re right. Behringer think highly of their work and actually seem to view their business practices as noble, not just legally acceptable. Whether you agree is up to you.

    That’s ten full pages of mostly-civil off-topic debate. Let’s talk apps for a minute! Korg offers a very very nice ARP Odyssey app, Moog has a very very nice Model D app, and Bram Bos has done a very very nice job innovating on classic instruments with Troublemaker and Ruismaker. Since most of us on the AudioBus forum have already eaten the cost of an iOS device, these apps are available for a fraction the cost of Behringer’s clones and expand on the hardware in many, many ways.

    Just saying 😘

  • wimwim

    @espiegel123 said:
    @wim: "So now, I dislike them much less than before. "

    Typo? Did you mean you dislike them more perhaps?

    Yeh. Typo. Thanks

  • wimwim
    edited March 2020

    @ALB said:

    @wim said:

    Fair enough. For the record, I was referring to the reaction to it, not the doing of it. I feel like people could take a joke better in the past, and so life was more fun. If that video was directed at me I’d be laughing right along with it.

    If someone pulled that trademark thing on me though, I’d be contacting my lawyer.

    I was just trolling. I honestly don’t give a rip about the whole thing anyway. :D

    "I feel like people could take a joke better in the past, and so life was more fun." Not in my neck of the woods - people would get into fistfights at the drop of a hat over really stupid sh*t. I just think that what we get upset over different things now, and the fights are virtual, not real. I do agree that life used to be more fun - I was younger and had thick curly hair.

    At least it’s not like the old west, or in old Europe, when an insult pretty much needed to be settled by a duel. Or maybe not. I’m sure people thought once or twice before shooting off their mouths back in those days. ;)

  • maxwellhousermaxwellhouser

    Kudos to ABF, this topic seems banned everywhere else.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @wim :kissing_heart:

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @espiegel123 said:
    @Fruitbat1919 : so you would be all good with a large company putting its resources into ridiculing you and having millions of people laughing at your expense?

    How about if they put a poster ridiculing you somewhere you and your friends and family saw it everyday? You would feel like their free speech rights were being infringed if your friends and family asked to take it down?

    Feelings are tough to legislate.

    Morality is hard to standardize.

    The moral of this story will be the market consumer reaction.

    Yes...captain obvious...sorry

    I would be interested to know your opinion on Youtube rules regarding reaction videos?

    Has anyone gotten a statement from named person to see if they are not in on it?

    This may be a stunt.....jsussayin

  • McDMcD

    It's an obvious imbalance of power...

    Goliath moves around and steps on little people and damages other large corps by re-engineering they products to sell them to a lot of little people who might appreciate the chance to have cool tools at cut rate prices. I know a lot of starving musicians that appreciate
    to sound of these devices. Many hang here.

    Then the little guy, David, sees someone damaging his revered tech hero that made cool products years ago and may or may not still be viable companies.

    Usually, unfair imbalances of power can be addressed with lawyers... then Goliath writes David a check and has to sign an NDA to allow Goliath's lawyers to how they fixed the leak in the hull. All behind closed doors and without any more bad PR.

    But Boycott Behringer. Not a problem for me. Not the type of gear I'll likely need. I want an older iPhone with a ton of storage to strap on to a MIDI USB keyboard and still have a headphone port.

  • wimwim

    @McD said:
    Usually, unfair imbalances of power can be addressed with lawyers... then Goliath writes David a check and has to sign an NDA to allow Goliath's lawyers to how they fixed the leak in the hull. All behind closed doors and without any more bad PR.

    Ahh. C’mon, you could have squeezed a few more mixed metaphors in there if you just tried a tiny bit harder. :D

    But Boycott Behringer. Not a problem for me. Not the type of gear I'll likely need. I want an older iPhone with a ton of storage to strap on to a MIDI USB keyboard and still have a headphone port.

    iPod Touch.

  • mrcanistermrcanister

    Tap tap tap on my Foxconn laminated glass...SJW

  • CRAKROXCRAKROX

    :-)

  • ALBALB

    @wim said:

    At least it’s not like the old west, or in old Europe, when an insult pretty much needed to be settled by a duel. Or maybe not. I’m sure people thought once or twice before shooting off their mouths back in those days. ;)

    True. Fear of dying is an excellent deterrent. For myself, I try not to say anything online that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face. Some people think they’re just blowing off steam by expressing their angry id on these forums, but I can’t help but think that it just makes them angrier.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @ALB said:

    @wim said:

    At least it’s not like the old west, or in old Europe, when an insult pretty much needed to be settled by a duel. Or maybe not. I’m sure people thought once or twice before shooting off their mouths back in those days. ;)

    True. Fear of dying is an excellent deterrent. For myself, I try not to say anything online that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face. Some people think they’re just blowing off steam by expressing their angry id on these forums, but I can’t help but think that it just makes them angrier.

    Yeah funny isn’t it? In real life I’ve never experienced someone butting into a conversation I’m having with someone else, and calling me an ‘autistic moron’, or a ‘whining privileged snowflake’, like they have on here.

    Possibly because in real life I’m 6ft 3”, and look a bit mental lol.

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