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Behringer - Please think at least twice before buying anything from them
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no need to turn music industry into politics. a lot of cheap and cool tools is great.behringer overdid it a bit with black PR. I'm Jewish, and I will never miss a good deal.
https://www.britannica.com/science/confirmation-bias
Is there such thing as Contradiction Bias?
I think I have that one. 🧐
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This is starting to remind me of all the anti-Semitism rows about the Labour party and its former leader Jeremy Corbyn here in the UK over the past few years...
You mean the leader who wasn't anti-semitic in the slightest, but who the racist media portrayed as a vicious anti-semite resulting in the viciously racist Tory party getting another 5 years? Those rows..?
Dear oh dear 🙄
This place used to be alright
And now .. who can't wait for Behringer CS80 clone ? That will be must-have for me
Curious what will be price ...
Those of you coming late are misconstruing and misrepresenting most of what was said in the part of the thread that touched on anti-semitism.
Most of that part of the thread was not about whether the Behringer video was anti-Semitic.
A few participants repeatedly kept ignoring the point a number of people were trying to make (I.e. that people should not be called ridiculous or sick-minded for considering the possibility that the video made use of anti-Semitic imagery--even if the video wasn't intended to be anti-Semitic ) and repeatedly misrepresented what was being argued.
Based on recent comments, the misrepresenters seem to have succeeded. And it seems pointless to try to set the record straight because people are more interested in winning than understanding.
Awww, you no want to internet with us?
No no, just i want everybody to be happy
To the perpetually offended types :
We get it. You are the morally superior being!
Behringer man bad.
So boycott Behringer and never buy their products again. Go for it.
Do you want a cookie ?
No one gives a fuck.
You don’t have to write 30,000 posts about why you are so offended and why this is so outrageous.
We get it. You are very special and very fragile.
Do we really need think pieces about this with pages of comments?
The virtue signaling is just insufferable.
Somebody mentioned Behringer using patents aggressively. Is there more info on that?
"I feel like people could take a joke better in the past, and so life was more fun." Not in my neck of the woods - people would get into fistfights at the drop of a hat over really stupid sh*t. I just think that what we get upset over different things now, and the fights are virtual, not real. I do agree that life used to be more fun - I was younger and had thick curly hair.
Back to iOS. Carry on making music with whatever you choose to buy. Your choice. 🤘
You clearly didn't actually read the posts.
Your summary both misrepresents what was said and indicates that you have no interest in understanding other people's points of view.
Most of the "outrage" has been from the people longing for the good old days when people just took their marginalization without talking back.
I also shared my traumatic experience of seeing a woman take a dump in front of a bank that NO ONE validated.
I didn't need another reason to never buy Behringer, but Uli can't stop the giving.
Bullying individuals who point out your wrong-doing is bad. Using imagery that leverages clearly anti-semitic tropes is bad, ignorant, and stupid. I'm not Jewish, I'm not from Europe, and it was still easy to see. "Intent" doesn't make you innocent when it comes to stereotyping of any kind, though it may or may not indicate what the consequence should be (along with words and behaviors once pointed out to you).
This was another major F-up by Behringer. Past behavior doesn't indicate anything will be learned or changed @ Behringer.
When you need to go, you need to go.!
I have noticed a general lack of public toilets over the last few years, doesn’t help.
What is your point?
The issue isn’t whether people validated a particular viewpoint — it was the repeated misrepresentation of viewpoints that fed much of the discussion.
You are correct. I did not bother to read another 300 posts about this utterly stupid controversy.
I already did that yesterday on gearslutz and Reddit and Facebook.
Totally over all the whiny pc bullshit that floods the Internet day after day.
It’s usually politics but now it’s spilled over into the synth world.
So that’s great.
If you don’t like Behringer then don’t buy their shit.
The world doesn’t need to hear why. We already know why.
I mis-typed — meant trademarks. The dangers of writing long posts on your phone. I’m not aware of any patent-based aggression.
@TheoVoid said:
Find me one person more offended than Uli Behringer tho. Kirn, the target of Uli’s little tirade, reacted calmly while the rest of us more-or-less calmly discussed whether to keep supporting the company in light of this and other questionable behaviour. Uli’s also big on virtue-signaling fwiw: https://www.attackmagazine.com/news/uli-behringer-addresses-the-haters/
We’re all using the same platforms and the same freedoms to express our opinions; telling someone to “get over it” is no less of a virtue-signal than telling someone to “be angry.” Edit: saw your other post where you referenced GearSlutz and Reddit. I don’t follow GS and I check Reddit less than once a month because yes, I find those platforms unpleasant.
Re: anti-Semitism, the video featured some potentially-risky imagery, people asked questions, it turned out to be nothing, people let it go. Doesn’t mean they were wrong to ask.
Now it’s time for some hard truths (erm, opinions) of my own: When a company is punching so low to begin with, they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. Also, you seem angry about other people’s personal ethical choices.
TBH. It’s been a slow couple of days at work and Im super bored.
This was mildly entertaining for awhile but the sheer amount of words being posted about this is just insane.
I’m not angry. I just like to post my opinion to counter all the ridiculous PC crap I’ve been reading. Life’s about balance.
I bet 90% of the people posting about how terrible Uli is and how they’re done with Behringer are just posturing for some sweet Internet/woke points. When it comes down to it they’ll still buy the affordable awesomeness that Behringer supplies.
Meanwhile Uli is laughing all the way to the bank.
All publicity is good publicity.
Clearly even the outraged are entertained by his antics which is evidenced by the GB’s of data being posted on the internet about this since it happened.
But by all means. Carry on the social justice campaign against Behringer. I’m sure Uli is just crying himself to sleep over it.
The Anti semitism is just a projection from people who are just searching for a reason to be offended.
In situations like this I always ask myself what is worse:
People taking time out to voice their concerns, or post on a forum about perceived bullying or injustice against others, or those that take time out to criticise, and maybe insult those who do?
I tend to go with the latter.
Grow up.
@TheoVoid : since you didn't actually read what was written, you actually have no idea what was being said. Interesting that you have such strong opinions without bothering to have read what was said and that you feel the need to post so many words insulting people without having read the discussion -- all while complaining about how many words were written .
If you aren't going to bother to read what people write and give it some actual thought, maybe you shouldn't enter into the conversation.
People who bang on about Social Justice Warriors / Political Correctness Gone mad etc etc, always seem to be the type of people whose behaviour has created such things.
Still it generally makesit easier to spot the asshurt privileged white males online.
Humans, BAH!
Lol, 'white males'. Throw in 'old' too and make extra friends.