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Eh. I still consider Trump’s chances of winning to be about 49% plus or minus 2%, thanks to the Electoral College awesomeness of allowing the popular vote losing Republicans to continue to destroy the country for their own gain.
Also, because of the Corona virus and the "evils" of mail in voting (never mind the states that do it all the time, the US military overseas, and even Trump and Pence doing it), I think the Democratic turnout will be lower, once again resulting in Trump's win. At which point, if I'm still alive from Covid and we can get another country to take us, we plan to do our best to work toward moving out of the US.
Slightly surreal for us as we live in Wales - still the UK, but a devolved government. So we’re still in lockdown, but not allowed to go further than 5 miles, yet just over the border in England they’re going bonkers.
Elect a gameshow host and win terrible prizes...
I agree with you
It’s nihilism by those who have never heard the word nihilism.
If I was going to get me a tattoo...
HA! THEIR PLAN HAS FINALLY WORKED!
The story of the Covid vaccine, it's arrival, provenance and eventual effects/results, will be another whole story for the next generation of historians and sociologists to do their PhDs on
Tump or Biden it's a choice between low tech corporate interests and high tech corporate interests. Either way we will be screwed. Unless there will be another real alternative I won't vote.
Also tired of this Trump only bashing, the dems are just as bad. Especially their lack of initiative in the current events makes me sick. It's all cynical politics. ACAB is a hollow phrase. Of course there are awful cops but not all are bad. Abolish the police is no problem if you have the money to hire private securtiy.
Well numbers still rising in the states that reopened early, particularly the ones where people don’t want to wear masks.
I’m in one of those states (SC), and I just recovered from a bout of COVID-19 that lasted about 2 weeks.
I took precautions and still managed to get it. It’s insane that there are so many people who want to just get back to normal immediately without being able to see what the obvious consequences are.
I visited my mom in the upstate last week and was amazed by the number of people who were not taking precautions.
Stay safe.
Which part? I live in Columbia. Most people I know have just been going to restaurants and bars like nothing's changed. Though the mask rule seems to have had some effect finally.
@LinearLineman
Nixon did a deal with the Vietcong to undermine Johnson's peacetalks in '68 to help his electoral chances. He was notoriously paranoid, talked about traitors all the time and used the DoJ in all kinds of dubious ways. Plus the whole spying on the Democratic party thing that led to Watergate.
Reagan did Irangate, openly supported a whole bunch of psycho in S. America and Africa that he gave money, training and weapons too - and which resulted in crack being imported into the US to fund nun murdering deathsquads in S. America. His later years he didn't do much due to the Alzheimers and not knowing who he was. Also had a bunch of nutty racists on staff.
Bush came to power in a consitutional coup that explicitly undermined the voting process, where his brother (as governor) had illegally purged the rolls of black people. Then his political director, Rove, began a strategy of mass voter purges, redistricting and a whole bunch of notoriously dirty tricks. Bush went onto be the guy who presided over the catastrophic federal response to Katrina, who tried to undermine the courts as part of the war on terror, who reinstituted torture. But mostly he'll be remembered for Iraq - a war so insanely bonkers that you had Republican 20 somethings presiding over large chunks of Iraq, knowing nothing about the country, but responsible for billions of dollars.
I think the lesson to be learnt here is that Republicans are bad, and while each Republican president will be awful in their own way, they're all pretty terrible. Trump has done less harm than either Bush or Reagan. True this is mostly because he's incompetent, but I'll take it. Most of the stuff that he did push through was really Mitch McConnell's agenda. If I've learnt anything from the Trump years is that when the next Republican psycho gets in, Trump will somehow be rehabilitated - because god knows if Democrats can rehabilitate Bush Jr...
For someone who said he wasn't going to respond to me, you sure seem to be doing your best to respond to me... I was criticizing Labour's new electoral strategy. Fairly sure the Tories will do fine with the UK press and BBC doing all their PR for them is more significant, but glad you think my opinions are so influential I guess.
Actually I wasn’t responding to you and I didn’t tag you, it was a general comment about so-called Labour (or Democrat) voters and supporters that seem to spend an inordinate amount of time dissing their party in public. But since you’re here: You’re slagging off the party you supposedly support, and have canvassed for, on a social media platform that gets hundreds of thousands of hits.
And people like you wonder why the Tories keep winning.
Give me strength....
I live in York, about 5 or 6 miles from the NC state line (and Charlotte, NC city limits are about half a mile further than that).
There’s definitely a reasonably high proportion of people here who aren’t taking things seriously.
@cian, Nixon resigned in disgrace, as you recall. I am not saying RR and Bush were not terrible presidents, of course they were, as were many other presidents (how about Kennedy buying the election with the help of the Mafia). But no president in my lifetime has been so transparently incompetent and ginned up overt hatred as much as the Donald. His lowering of every standard has emboldened the worst racial tendencies in about 25% of the voting population. As flawed as America was, we had come to the point where a black man was president. Trump took advantage of the racial rage pent up in the worst people in our country. Yes, many voted for T in hopes of a change, but most of those voters will not go along for a second ride with a guy who brings out and encourages the worst in us.
+1,000 @Max23 !!!!
You are absolutely correct!
There were hundreds of racists in my rural Northern California area who plastered their vehicles (mostly big-ass trucks) with anti-Obama garbage, and once Dumbass Donnie won, they instantly began acting fully entitled to verbally and physically abuse anyone who dared to question the dictator to be-in-chief. Truly amazing...
@linearlineman
Reagan's campaign manager was Lee Atwater, who infamously put race baiting at the heart of his strategy. Reagan launched his offical 1980 campaign at a county fair just outside Philadelphia, Mississippi - the twon where the Klan lynched three civil rights volunteers in an effort to reach "George Wallace inclined voters" (the quote is from a local official who recommended it to the national campaign). Reagan used dog whistles like 'state rights' (anyone who has lived in the south knows what that's a dog whistle for). Reagan came up with the image of a 'Chicago welfare queen' who drove a cadillac - which again was clearly meant to reference a lazy black woman on welfare ripping off white society (most welfare recipients were white, for whatever that's worth). There's a lot more of this kind of stuff (and also similar from his time as governor of California) if you care to look for it.
The problem with Trump exceptionalism is that it lets Republicans off the hook for this stuff. Trump is a pretty accurate reflection of the modern Republican party and its base. That's why he won the primary. And why someone like him (or more terrifying - a competent version of him) will probably be the next Republican president.
Yeah I know York. Columbia's similar, though Lexington nextdoor is worse. Lexington is hardcore Trump and evangelical country (it's the original white flight suburb of Columbia).
There's now an ordinance in Columbia that you have to wear masks in offices, retail establishments, etc - though the real problem is bars, and nobody seems willing to close them. The mayor is taking it seriously, and has from the beginning, which is something. Though when the state refuses to take it seriously there's only so much he can do.
This weekend for the first time since the pandemic started, the majority of people at Lowes were wearing masks, so maybe people are starting to get the message.
I think you mistake supporters for people who see the Labour/Democratic party as the lesser evil. Just because I vote for them, doesn't mean I support them. Given that the Democratic party leadership is openly contemptuous of those on the left, not sure why they deserve any loyalty. In the US (which is where I now live), people on the left have been trying to get candidates that they can support into power and support them, while putting pressure on candidates that they do not like (Pelosi say) to better represent their views. The idea that this is an 'invalid' way of doing politics seems a bit strange to me.
I supported it under Corbyn. The party is under new management and is going in a direction that I don't support. I would probably (though it's not a given, there are some Labour MPs I would never vote for - call it purity politics if you like, but I have lines I won't cross) still vote for them in an election, but I would not currently canvas for them.
Yeah, it’s the redneck population that’s the worst. You can pretty much guarantee a pickup truck in the parking lot with a confederate flag, Trump sticker and all lives matter sticker when you see someone ignoring social distancing in a store.
Yep.
Nice, @Max23! Ruben Bolling certainly has Trump's patter down.
Needs to make his tiny hands much smaller, though! 🤗
everything written in this topic is beautiful. a pandemic turning into racism and finally a small piece of Russophobia. it’s even interesting how soon your governments will gather in the next crusade to justify your right to overconsumption. public opinion is prepared perfectly, just as old Goebbels taught.
I have long had no illusions about people of art. when the Balkans tore into bloody shreds
my friends asked American jazzmens to make a joint anti-war declaration, we thought that it was an underground unrelated to the main discourse and were surprised that not one musician supported us.
Now I see how this is done, gradually, drop by drop each day. and when the hour of killing comes,
everyone will turn away as if on command.
the only good news is that radiation will kill this damned coronavirus.