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Hydroxychloroquine is an emphatic no.
The corruption on top of the incompetence is bloody faffing infuriating
Yeah the Goya beans thing is just surreal. Isn't it illegal?
It is absolutely illegal:
Federal ethics law: "An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office to endorse any product, service or enterprise ... "
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.702
And so is Trumps campaign speech in the Rose Garden
The Hatch Act restricts federal employees from engaging in “political activity” on federal property, while “on duty,” when “wearing a uniform or official insignia identifying the office or position of the employee,” or when using government property, such as vehicles, computers, printers, copiers and telephones.
The Trump admin and sycophantic dingleberries violate the Hatch Act almost everyday.
They’ve given up caring about how many people they kill and permanently disable so why would they care about any other law or ethics violation.
This presidency has turned into a smash and grab robbery.
Mask wearing is basically a long distance social signal, indicating the personality of the person heading towards you.
Or maybe people that don’t want to wear masks are free thinking individuals that are questioning why this is being enforced at the end of the “pandemic” when all cause mortality is back to the 5 year average and the virus fatality rate is in the range of seasonal influenza.
Even this chart shows it’s over beside the fact that PHE got caught over reporting COVID deaths by Carl Heneghan.
It’s really not such a big ask and if there’s a small possibility that it helps people not suffer an agonising and lonely death then I’m more than happy to make a small sacrifice to my freedom.
But then again I’m not a self declared free thinking selfish spunk bubble.
There is no real evidence that masks protect against the virus. Especially the cloth masks people wear as the virus particles are so small they easily pass through. In the whole of Europe it has now virtually disappeared. But being mandated to wear masks and being told a vaccine is the only way back to normal should raise some questions.
There’s no point in anybody wasting their time with people such as this.
There is evidence and it’s not my fucking job to set them all straight.
Europe. Virus gone.
Do us all a huge favor and be "gone" from here as well!
Why? This is just factual information.
Because you’re propagating the false “fact” that masks don’t protect people, for starters.
Well that’s convinced me. I hope it’s not propaganda.
And you were wrong. The virus in Europe is not “gone!”
“European authorities however warn against complacency. Spain, which managed to subdue the infection rate after being hit hard by the pandemic early on, this week recorded the biggest rise in new cases since May. A cluster of infections in northeast Spain has forced the local government there to reintroduce some restrictions.
In southeastern Europe, Croatia, Serbia, North Macedonia and Bulgaria—which all had strict lockdowns that greatly reduced the number of new cases—are all experiencing a renewed surge of coronavirus infections after they abruptly lifted all restrictions. Hospitals in Serbia are nearly overwhelmed after the government allowed for mass events in the past two months, including sports games and election rallies.”
What is exactly is the drawback of wearing a mask? Even if it reduces transmission a little bit it's worth it, no?
Those charts you see on the number of new infections each day. What they don’t show is how they correlate to the number tests were performed. Someone analysed the data for the UK and created a chart of the percentage of positives for each day.
What’s interesting here is not only how low it is now but it is so low that it raises the question of whether these are now just false positives. SAGE have said they don’t know the false positives rate of the RT-PCR test. Some scientists that have worked with them for other uses say they experienced about 5%.
And this has happened without face masks being mandatory.
@Mark B
Irregardless of your argument, this thread is entitled
"Vent About Global Pandemic Management HERE"
It's not entitled "Here's my proof Coronavirus is a hoax, masks don't work, and the vaccine is a massive deep-state plot to control our minds!"
However, I highly suggest you start a new thread with that title and present your arguments there! 🤗
Yeah the state of it, absolute melts of people totally convinced that they’re free thinkers basically because the simplistic nonsense that lines up with what they want from the world tells them what they want to hear.
No one wants this scourge on our societies, and we all need to work together to eradicate it.
The above statement applies equally to the virus and the viral misinformation that is being propagated.
We’re in a war with this thing, pick a side and make sure it’s your own species.
A Spanish pharmacist, Dr. Marisa García Alonso, demonstrates, in her laboratory, through an experiment with cytology in Petri dishes with blood agar, the bacteria that grow in the masks we use.
The first one: a tissue mask she used in the day before (when she was singing, hobby)
The second one: the masks she has in her bag when she needs to go shopping
The third one: a fresh unpacked mask
The fourth one: the mask she was wearing
The fifth one: a mask from a colleague (he or she was wearing that mask for 3 weeks, 8 hours a day)
Quiet you fool, I get to work from home now!
Just wear a mask. All bigly best worded brains, especially the most adored brain of all, wear a mask. 🤮
Wear a mask it’s not that hard
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Just wear a mask. All bigly best worded brains, especially the most adored brain of all, wear a mask. 🤮
Wear a mask it’s not that hard. Even an idiot can do it.
😷🦠
Isn't the idea that we are trying to prevent a second wave now that we have got through the first one?
Regarding the health risks of masks, if they were that dangerous then surely there would be evidence of this from SE Asia where people have been routinely wearing them for years?
Not to mention of course that they are worn in hospitals and dental practices. Now I'm all for increasing awareness of best practices (use medical masks, don't reuse them etc) but I don't think that's what you're driving at.
"Where does it end?" implies that wearing a mask is some huge burden rather than a minor inconvenience. Ultimately it's completely asymmetric: if the pro-mask people are wrong the risk is negligible, whereas if the anti-mask people are wrong the risks are substantial. The precautionary principle is the only logical approach here.
What second wave?
The UK may have already achieved a sufficient level of herd immunity to stop a second wave of coronavirus, an Oxford University study has suggested.
Scientists believe the "threshold" of herd immunity may have been lowered because many people may already be immune to the disease without ever having caught it.
According to a new model produced by an Oxford University team led by Professor Sunetra Gupta, as little as 20 per cent of the population may need to be resistant to the virus in order to prevent a new epidemic spreading.
"It is widely believed that the herd immunity threshold (HIT) required to prevent a resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 is in excess of 50 per cent for any epidemiological setting," the study says.
"Here, we demonstrate that HIT may be greatly reduced if a fraction of the population is unable to transmit the virus due to innate resistance or cross-protection from exposure to seasonal coronaviruses.
"These results help to explain the large degree of regional variation observed in seroprevalence and cumulative deaths, and suggest that sufficient herd immunity may already be in place to substantially mitigate a potential second wave."
Leading experts have already suggested that a sizeable number of people may have immunity against coronavirus because of its similarity to viruses including the common cold.
The Oxford model, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, suggests that when resistant people mix with non-resistant people, the herd immunity "threshold" drops sharply.
"Given the mounting evidence that exposure to seasonal coronaviruses offers protection against clinical symptoms, it would be reasonable to assume that exposure to SARS-CoV-2 itself would confer a significant degree of clinical immunity," the study says.
"Thus, a second peak may result in far fewer deaths, particularly among those with comorbidities in the younger age classes."
Last month, Sir John Bell, Regius Professor of Medicine at Oxford University, who is working with a team at Oxford to develop a vaccine, said there was likely to be a "background level" of protection for a "significant number of people".
"There is probably background T-cell immunity in people before they see the coronavirus, and that may be relevant that many people get a pretty asymptomatic disease," he said.
This melt is wasting all our time. We are nowhere near herd immunity levels, for fuck’s sake get a life and quit trying to convince people that you’re in any way not a total contrarian.
One speculative conclusion from a cherry-picked study ≠ scientific proof.
I'm all in favour of open-mindedness in the face of a virus we know very little about. However that's not the same as cherry-picking evidence to favour a preordained narrative.
There have already been second waves in China and Iran.