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Fox News et al means little to me, as I’m not from the U.S. And don’t watch them often enough to take much notice of the particular biases of the U.S. media. I’m sure the U.S. has its biased media just like the UK.
The left / Right divide is probably very different for yourself anyway due to in location. I have a lot of left and right wing friends in the UK and the left wing ones often discuss and state that they like the idea of a border less world. sure we can both find examples of people stating different opinions, but that’s pretty irrelevant to the generalised concept of political differences I was trying to portray. The general concept of the left / right positioning and ideals is constantly changing, so feel free to position any other left or right tropes you think are suitable.
Lots of people think of me at night, though it’s usually part of some weird, dark nightmare.
We sold/gave away at least half of them, like idiots. They’d be worth a fortune now, even the Cliff Richards biographies.
The remainder are certainly more useful as bog roll, since I don’t share her taste in reading matter. It’s a shame the 600 CDs that are left are apocalyptic classical soundtracks too.
My current personal reading matter is a history of the Grateful Dead, and their wonderful life in the Californian sunshine playing music and taking acid. And then I look out of the window from my isolation unit....at the rain...
Spring break, sorry but the younger generations get more dumb every time.
Friday for future and so but if they could do something useful against a world wide crisis they risk the lifes of older people and go party.
We in the EU are already dumb but USA tops that all.
No that’s just kids being kids, they’ve always said ‘eff off daddio’
Thanks - good article.
< screams into pillow daily > fuck Trump...
I hope people pray for the poor nations of our world, they have for too long dealt with this problem of premature death, whilst we have turned a blind eye, the smallest of things now become the greatest humbler.
But he knew it was a pandemic before anyone else was saying so.
Don't you remember?
He was the one in early February saying to the WHO: we need all the test kits you can manage. He ordered a temporary halt to travel into the country while we rigorously investigated the small number of sick people and rigorously investigated all their contacts. And had every affected person go into isolation.
He was the one telling the doctors: don't tell people this is no big deal. We need to do something now and not wait until this thing is widespread.
You don't remember?
He told us. We didn't listen. But now we'll listen. Now he'll save us.
And, so sorry, but it isn't safe to vote.
I'm placing these Imperial College estimates in the Vent thread because it's going to trigger angry responses:
The US has a population of 331M... so 0.6% death estimate.
I'll Google about for reviews of these estimates.
Are these the U.S.A. stats?
@McD: it is really important to realize that the IC report is based on the worst-case assumptions and that all the heavyweight epidemiologists have cautioned that when the holes in our current data are filled in more that it might look very different. One needs to be careful about being over-literal as there are things we don't know yet that might make things look less dire.
Graphic #1 is a US only estimate using the Imperial College paper. That papers data is shown in 2, 3 with
details for the US and GB.
@McD source link please?
@espiegel123 the ONLY thing that rotten fetid corpse of a man has done is try and save his own skin...
On the way he’s lied broken everything and stole anything he could
He deserves whatever judgement god gives to those who commit deliberate evil, and whatever punishment we can deal to put him and his progeny behind bars for life.
It looks like a comparison of public policy approaches. Many believe our public policy will "yo-yo" between these 2 extremes: (1) let it run it's course (2) massive/long-term quarantine implementation.
Related for the rant page: The Trump administration's attempt to deflect his disastrous response by injecting race into this. Suddenly, after weeks of referring to the virus as the coronavirus, Trump in press conferences is referring to the China virus. Naturally, the Chinese don't like this, but it's purely a distraction technique. It immediately gives his supporters something to push back on: The virus IS Chinese! We can't call it the China virus now! This is political correctness gone crazy. And in the middle of a pandemic too!
And then this disgusting moment in the daily press briefing today. I mean, a plant from OANN, which is simply not a news organization. This is North Korea-level garbage. It's truly appalling:
So basically, don't fall for this and argue about whether the term Trump uses to describe the virus was racially divisive. It's enough that he will directly be responsible for deaths of people in red states and blue.
A picture is worth 1,000 comments:
Most believe the actuals are probably low since there is really enough testing to confirm anything in most countries. Some are doing better at testing than others. I'm looking at you: self-trained Bio-Genius. You just don't like tests... fake-feedback. Just just know stuff... it's in your DNA near the handsome gene. The Genius Gene married the Handsome Gene and made Ivanka... the perfect human.
China is at zero cases. Is there any question that extended lockdown works? Of course it could and probably will return there, but they are prepared to contain outbreaks. We either decide here in the US to sacrifice many more people (and why not) or lock her up.
It would be worth also showing Japan, South Korea, China and Taiwan
And what on earth is happening in Russia?
China just had a day with 0 new reported cases -- they are not down to 0 cases. An important milestone but also very different from 0 cases.
@espiegel123, isn’t that kind of glossing over the accomplishment? I mean they had 80,000 cases and turned it around. What do you think will happen when we are at 80,000? Well, gosh, there probably are 80,000 cases already.
I guess my point is that when there are zero cases or such you have much better control over new infections. What is your thought about total lockdown?
There are still 80,000 (to randomly assign a number( cases maybe; it's just that there are no NEW ones.
Still a huge deal and great news and proof social distancing works.
As I said, it is an important milestone. It is huge. I also think accuracy is important. What comes next will tell us a lot.
@ExAsperis99, I guess somehow I am being obtuse. Sorry.
Ah Donald’s best mates turf. Donald’s world leaders club reads like the human rights most wanted list.
Did you get a chance to listen to the description of how China managed the spread in the target areas?
General Summary:
1. They check temperatures for everyone they can in public (getting on busses, transpiration stations, public buildings)
If you show a fever they put you on a bus a testing center (imagine being routed to a government bus in the US)
The testing center is manned by care workers in hazmat suits
You under go a testing process that end-to-end takes hours: it involves CT scans of the lungs. You know... single payer communism at work. Bernie has been all-in from a young age. Just tweaking the message selling the benefits of "income leveling" and the shared rewards of wealth distribution: targeting 1%.
If you're positive you are taken to a holding facility and can't go home. After the virus runs it's course you are released. No contact with family allowed.
It works. It's extreme. It's unworkable in the US. We will use lock-downs and get better results at lowering the inflection curve but probably not reach zero grow anytime this year, IMHO.