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Nothing could get a Narcissists attention like a deadly illness but he would still only focus on his own treatment and care. But he'd need to hand off the day to day and it could only be better, right?
Press exposure of his character? (the candid video as he really is - Grab 'em...)? No.
Russian influence and a love of dictators for best the best Leader? No.
The Courts for illegal actions? No. (The DOJ Memo says you can't indict).
Mueller investigation? No.
Impeachment conviction? No.
Deadly Virus? ...
Yes I’m aware of the data just not drawing false conclusions from it at this stage
i don’t vote
I’m consoling myself by going through old episodes of the new statesman, this clip is spot on about the way things are being handled.
@Max23 : please read the section of the medium article about fatality rate estimates. The likely accurate number is much lower (which is still very very very bad because of how many will be affected).
I think if you read the article, you will see that the “real” rate is likely to to turn out to be far less than 6% but it will still be bad:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
“I don’t take responsibility at all”
What’s New Pussygrabber?
And you think that was a good plan, now we have at least five years of proper fascist rule?
Brilliant, love Rik Mayall.
Not really because that environment is nothing like the rest of the environment. Forced containment, no need to go out to get groceries, everyone breathing a lot more of the same air as everyone else, more consistent (I didn't say better, just more consistent) medical attention and supervision, smaller population to contain and educate, etc. etc. etc.
He’s an absolute legend, wish there was more bitting political satire around now, good for stress relief.
I actually think they did pretty well at the news conference. All clearly laid out and quite logical.
What part is worrying you?
Max, you keep quoting 6% as if that is going to be the overall death rate but that is not what the experts or article says or even what the quoted passage says. It MIGHT be that high but if you read the article that is a worst case. There is general consensus that it will be quite a bit lower which is still going to be much worse than the flu and will be millions dead worldwide. Unlikely (but possible) that it will be 6% according to the people with expertise in the field.
A very important part of the article is about how the fatality rate will be heavily influenced by the degree to which we flatten the curve since a lot of the deaths are due to lack of respirators. In Italy, they have to decide who gets respirators since there is more demand than supply..and the decision is based on years left. They are literally having to decide who gets a chance to survive.
But in many places it isn’t too late to flatten the curve significantly. And they have done it in some places.
Well when I was 11 I was hit by a tram, my head stuck under the cow catcher, at 13 a guy brook my leg, at 17 I went on a bike into the back of Landrover, and I have survived 2 major car accidents. If something is going to take me of this plain then my time is obviously up.
Twas a really good night at Sowerby Bridge.
The gap in logic when they say that they both want to delay the spread but also don't want to act now because they think we'll get fed up of being responsible. It seems that they're wanting to gamble that a rapid spread in the population will create a herd immunity without reconciling that the NHS won't be able to withstand such a rapid spread. Essentially they're trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the population that they've already gaslit for the past few years.
It sounds like they are taking a risky approach that has these assumptions:
Sounds risky because all their models’ assumptions need to be correct or there is a real catastrophe,
Feels like they're seeing bad things ahead no matter what and so playing for some sort of win, double or quits, but with the UK population. Nasty.
The gap in logic was also clear when they said that people are infectious before they’re symptomatic but only those with symptoms need to self isolate ...although maybe that is revealing of the intention to accelerate the spread without broadcasting it too much to create the herd immunity. I agree it’s a huge gamble but judging by the U Turn on mass gatherings and what I’m seeing as growing public concern at their plan, they are re-thinking their approach.
There is some concern because some people that recovered from the virus have tested positive for the virus at a point when scientists expected them to test negative.
This doesn’t mean they were re-infected as there are other explanations. But a friend that is in a medical testing related field indicated that there is some concern as to what that means and there have been reports in China of some patients that have become reinfected. There are a lot of possible explanations that aren’t worrisome, but some caution against some assumptions that are being made as we don’t have enough data.
@Max23 : this article summarizes concerns I’ve heard from a few sources:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-reinfection-explainer/explainer-coronavirus-reappears-in-discharged-patients-raising-questions-in-containment-fight-idUSKCN20M124
Yup, most of my mates who are still in London are getting sent home today so that's good, I'm lucky, I've lived in the sticks for years so remote working is the norm but they're starting from scratch...
just don’t play that game anymore. the whole charade is too tainted
‘survivor bias’
Things which happens now, never happened with any flu or other pandemic since World War 1.
So maybe the above 10.000 knows more and there is something more dangerous going on with this „flu“ as we think. We know nothing.
Oh, some people are doomed and some making huge profit.