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Zeeon is Minilogue. TAL is Juno 60. There's a place for them both. 😁
Yes, both are good. Indeed is Tal the better Juno of course but i´m not the biggest Juno fan. I would use it mainly for strings, pads and brass and there other are better for me.
However, the Tal is a lot faster to work with and better for certain sounds maybe as well. I just like the more aggressive nature of Zeeon. The low end is wonderful and the saturation better for me.
Microtuning and crossplatform now is a big plus for the Tal too.
Just had to sadly remove this au from my Mac... Catalina woes ....
I loved it... some really great sounds came out of it!
This arrived just in time to cheer me up!!
No problem on Catalina here.
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I’ll have to dig in a bit deeper.... updated LPX, a whole load of au’s where moved to trash...
Haven’t had enough time to sort the mess out....
Simultaneously my WD my passport locked up and 5 years of backups evaporated. Another Catalina catastrophe!!
So that has been my priority, thanks for the heads up,
I’ll try and retrieve all of these?
Cheers J
Sorry for sidetracking.
Strange, I have had no problems getting a syrupy smooth analogesque sound out of Zeeon.
seems like this would be a great synth for modern day ambient jams
I don't really see why anyone would buy even more presets for this. Its limitations make it very easy to program, and what it can do is well represented in the 4 banks it comes with. $20 bucks for 64 of those Luftrum presets seems ridiculously steep.
And whoever called Zeeon a Minilogue can get right out of town. Zeeon blows that dinky thing out of the water in sound quality and you can do things with it you couldn't dream of on the Minilogue. I proudly use my Minilogue as MIDI keys for Zeeon (and other synths)...otherwise it has no value to me.
There is one good reason why everybody should buy this synth. Just looks at TAL portfolio of plugins. I guess he is testing waters with this one. In case it will sell well, i bet next will come - which would be amazing ;-)
So even if you think you din't need another analog synh emulation, take it as strategic investment for getting more of his amazing plugins on iOS :-)
Amen
Yes, Tal-Mod please!
Well done for getting her to do it...
Of course that also depends on flavor maybe. Model D is indeed my favorite analog on iOS for the Model D sweetspot, Model 15 is nice but far away from analog sounding for me, Zeeon is great and almost kind of a nice hybrid of analog modeled with a digital touch.
Repro is indeed even a class higher, especially the superb FX it comes with and also microtuning. It would be nice for iOS but i see no sign of this in any of their posts (beside some questions in their survey).
I still hope for P900 which for me is even a class above Repro and as modular the most versatile of these analog beasts.
Oh, there is so much place for more analog emulations. Synapse working on a new OB-Xa and i guess it will be a beast as well.
Not to forget DRC which can be such an analog beast and really dirty.
What is also very important for me are the added FX and how they work with the RAW sound. DRC is great here.
My favorite for iOS here would be also Model D since the delay and bender is really great and they really pronounce the Model D sound in a really good way.
The chorus in the Tal is really great and just sits with the sound of course.
Zeoon has a nice chorus and really great phaser but terrible delay and reverb.
What sets Model D apart for me on iOS is the really fantastic saturation. No other iOS app sounds this good here.
However, so many great synths with different character from analog to digital. All have their places.
All this simpler synths also let me often rethink my workflow. Instead of trying to do all with a giant modular or super complex hybrid workstation it often just works better to layer 2-3 of these simpler synths and you get an awesome wall of sound i could not get with anything else.
I´m just a synth junkie but i love it
I don´t know if there are any synths not good sounding these days, beside the Timbre Wolf, lol.
Omg this is a dream...sounds beautiful
My point was Zeeon is a similar architecture to Minilogue, and so if you have Zeeon you basically don't need a Minilogue. Just like how this covers Juno sounds. So yes, we are saying the same thing. Also Minilogue is a horrible midi controller, those keys are terrible.
On the point of presets, people like presets. People buy presets, so what? Also, Lufstrum is a great sound designer and his pack sounds epic.
Not suggesting to buy them, but I did notice that the Luftrum shop has a 20% off code for April right now "april2020".
Personally I’m happy with the additional free presets on the TAL site for now.
https://audiobombs.com/?q=TAL+u-no-lx&devices.qualname.75=Synth.TAL-U-NO-LX&filters.qualname.163=&filters.qualname.165=&rating=&category=Synth+Presets&page=1&limit=24&sort=utc_created_at:desc&price=All
This is a link to all the free TAL U-NO-LX presets on the AudioBombs site...if you do some Googling and get the presets off the links already in the thread you’re looking at a bumper crop of presets available.
I hope TAL sees the interest in this synth from our community and moves over their entire line. This synth is just so cool...
am i the only one having a hard time using those faders?and i have anything else than big fingers
Now trying to picture you using anything else than fingers...
It looks like if you first drag horizontally it goes into fine-precision mode. For vertical movements I've found it easier to just star dragging from an empty area.
Once you get a fader going you can slide your finger anywhere on the screen to better see the fader and get a nice smooth motion.
Magellan 2 is excellent at analog modeling. I picked it up yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. At the time when Zeeon was released it was certainly at the top of analog modeling synthesis for me. As with most of Beepstreets synths I feel the true potential lies in sound design and patch creation but Sunrizer and Zeeon both have excellent presets.
I bought it a little while ago, sounds fantastic Immediately. It definitely has its own sound, not just another subtractive synth. I broke my no app buying rule for the near future rule with this one but well worth it.
Nope, I've not posted anything about U-he, but mentioned TAL at one point...
I'm happy with the TAL-U-NO-LX thing but miss the unison trick that could be done on the original by pressing down poly 1&2 at the same time to make all 6 voices play in unison...
maybe i need more practice then cause often enough the fader jumps into the opposite direction when i move the finger away from the fader.
Anyone knows what the"Midi Lock" does?
The Poly Portamento is also a little...unpredictable
And hold the preset menu with a finger open is stupid.
Besides this it's AWESOME
Thats it! I'm in... more high quality Desktop products needed. Show U-he the way.
Once we get 20-30 of these vendors then people can go crazy on Black Friday scooping up real high quality/proven apps for under $10.
Thanks!
Well, it's all about context. Head-to-head one could tell them apart, no doubt. But I'm not making Synthwave or anything where I need verisimilitude. Buried in my mix, with effects and EQs carving the sound, Zeeon does it for me.
And for anyone struggling with Zeeon being too aggressive or too bright, try the OTA filter model and turn the Tone most of the way up. Also realize that the range of the Cutoff is greater than on many synths, so you have to close it down more than you might think to get a "vintage" sound.
Anyway, getting back on topic, when / if microtuning gets sorted in the AU I'll probably get this.
I'm having the same fader sliding issues