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  • Both sounds the same to me. But obviously, the Custom Pro are more confortable and more durable.

  • Status Audio CB1. Simply amazing. Like having NS10s on your ears. . . . . Flat response headphones, perfect.
    https://www.status.co/products/cb1

  • sony mdr 7506 since 1990

  • Not sure I would call NS10s ‘flat response’, exactly.

  • Could anyone recommend some quality mid-range open-backed headphones that don't need much juice, and sound great used on iPhone / iPad without going through an interface / preamp of any kind. Preferably ones that are already morphit-compatible, but not necessarily if they are reasonably neutral. Good wide sound stage preferred. Thanks!

  • I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

  • edited May 2020

    Beyerdynamic DT-770 pro 250ohm Great sound and I can wear them for long periods. My old Audio technica headphones killed my ears after 20 minutes!

  • I use Arctis 7 ultra low latency bluetooth gaming headphones, not for mixing, just jamming, but they are superb for that with no wires to trip up on. Fairly expensive admittedly, but good battery life (days not hours) and really negligible latency (judged as a finger picking guitar player).

    These were a miraculous discovery for me, I posted about them before on the BM3 forum and got shot down by an expert who'd not actually tried them, I hope that doesn't happen again here... The amazing music I make with them on my ears generally sounds awful on speakers the next day, but that's not necessarily the fault of the headphones.

  • Pair of Grado Sr80e arrived for me today, love them, the sound is so alive, seem like a great bargain at the price

  • edited May 2020

    ok guys help me - 200$ ish - for longtime usage (no sweatbuckets) would like preset present in morphit

  • edited May 2020

    @noob said:
    ok guys help me - 200$ ish - for longtime usage (no sweatbuckets) would like preset present in morphit

    A great choice would be these:

    https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

    Contrary to popular opinion these can be driven from the headphone jack, but the addition of something like a Dragonfly Black will certainly allow you to drive them to louder volumes.

    If not then there are plenty of other choices available:

    https://drop.com/audiophile/drops

  • @Gavinski said:
    Pair of Grado Sr80e arrived for me today, love them, the sound is so alive, seem like a great bargain at the price

    Let the modding begin 🤓

  • @onkey haha, I've been reading about that but they seem great as is to me. What would u suggest? :p

  • edited May 2020

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth on your brain? 😁 I would not jam my brain in between two Bluetooth device that sends and receive UHF waves. 😬😬

    I try to minimize my contact to wireless frequency. Too much of it is not good for you.

  • @Gavinski said:
    @onkey haha, I've been reading about that but they seem great as is to me. What would u suggest? :p

    Start with the L Cush upgrade = reversible
    If you’re brave, do the driver vent mod = non reversible

  • edited May 2020

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    If the headphone uses APTx and the sending device also supports it, you get 16/44.1 (If they are both designed well enough)
    If the headphone uses APTx HD and the sending device also supports it, you get 24/48 (if they are both designed well enough)
    Note that it is still a compressed format.
    iOS supports neither APTx or APTx HD and Bluetooth is pretty poor for monitoring without either of those.

    @steve99 said:
    I use Arctis 7 ultra low latency bluetooth gaming headphones, not for mixing, just jamming, but they are superb for that with no wires to trip up on. Fairly expensive admittedly, but good battery life (days not hours) and really negligible latency (judged as a finger picking guitar player).

    These were a miraculous discovery for me, I posted about them before on the BM3 forum and got shot down by an expert who'd not actually tried them, I hope that doesn't happen again here... The amazing music I make with them on my ears generally sounds awful on speakers the next day, but that's not necessarily the fault of the headphones.

    Well no you don't, whoever shot you down probably did so because you said ultra low latency bluetooth, which is nonsense in and of itself, add to this what I added above about iOS not supporting the higher definition bluetooth codecs and you get the answer to why people will shutdown any bluetooth talk with monitoring on iOS.
    The Arctis 7 is not bluetooth, it is 2.4ghz which is a much higher quality and lower latency than bluetooth, but consequently uses a dongle to transmit to the headphones.
    Some of the gaming headphones and headsets are actually very good listening headphones, they are comfortable and also less fatiguing than studio cans, but you have to get used to them and listen to a lot of music to make them viable for monitoring.

    @ecou said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth on your brain? 😁 I would not jam my brain in between two Bluetooth device that sends and receive UHF waves. 😬😬

    I try to minimize my contact to wireless frequency. Too much of it is not good for you.

    This is near impossible since the onset of Radio, then high powered Radar, then TV, then a whole slew of wireless communication technology that now envelops the entire planet, minimising your own contact would involve making sure the rest of the planet is not using it, wireless transmissions are not point to point.

  • let me dream about these ones. If they really sound that much better?

  • @Turntablist said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    If the headphone uses APTx and the sending device also supports it, you get 16/44.1 (If they are both designed well enough)
    If the headphone uses APTx HD and the sending device also supports it, you get 24/48 (if they are both designed well enough)
    Note that it is still a compressed format.
    iOS supports neither APTx or APTx HD and Bluetooth is pretty poor for monitoring without either of those.

    That’s what I feared. I think I need a cheap pair of wireless buds for around the house and decent pair of wired headphones for mixing. Cheers.

    @ecou said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth on your brain? 😁 I would not jam my brain in between two Bluetooth device that sends and receive UHF waves. 😬😬

    I try to minimize my contact to wireless frequency. Too much of it is not good for you.

    This is near impossible since the onset of Radio, then high powered Radar, then TV, then a whole slew of wireless communication technology that now envelops the entire planet, minimising your own contact would involve making sure the rest of the planet is not using it, wireless transmissions are not point to point.

    Yes, this is a conversation that will derail this thread if we’re not careful. I’ve been down this rabbit hole through my work. Best to refer to the WHO and your national health authority guidelines.

  • @onkey said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @onkey haha, I've been reading about that but they seem great as is to me. What would u suggest? :p

    Start with the L Cush upgrade = reversible
    If you’re brave, do the driver vent mod = non reversible

    Out of curiosity I searched Grado mods. 😆 Reminds me of when I lived with my brother. At the time he worked in an “audiophile music store”. He used to bring some very expensive systems home for “research”.

  • @Turntablist said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    If the headphone uses APTx and the sending device also supports it, you get 16/44.1 (If they are both designed well enough)
    If the headphone uses APTx HD and the sending device also supports it, you get 24/48 (if they are both designed well enough)
    Note that it is still a compressed format.
    iOS supports neither APTx or APTx HD and Bluetooth is pretty poor for monitoring without either of those.

    @steve99 said:
    I use Arctis 7 ultra low latency bluetooth gaming headphones, not for mixing, just jamming, but they are superb for that with no wires to trip up on. Fairly expensive admittedly, but good battery life (days not hours) and really negligible latency (judged as a finger picking guitar player).

    These were a miraculous discovery for me, I posted about them before on the BM3 forum and got shot down by an expert who'd not actually tried them, I hope that doesn't happen again here... The amazing music I make with them on my ears generally sounds awful on speakers the next day, but that's not necessarily the fault of the headphones.

    Well no you don't, whoever shot you down probably did so because you said ultra low latency bluetooth, which is nonsense in and of itself, add to this what I added above about iOS not supporting the higher definition bluetooth codecs and you get the answer to why people will shutdown any bluetooth talk with monitoring on iOS.
    The Arctis 7 is not bluetooth, it is 2.4ghz which is a much higher quality and lower latency than bluetooth, but consequently uses a dongle to transmit to the headphones.
    Some of the gaming headphones and headsets are actually very good listening headphones, they are comfortable and also less fatiguing than studio cans, but you have to get used to them and listen to a lot of music to make them viable for monitoring.

    @ecou said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth on your brain? 😁 I would not jam my brain in between two Bluetooth device that sends and receive UHF waves. 😬😬

    I try to minimize my contact to wireless frequency. Too much of it is not good for you.

    This is near impossible since the onset of Radio, then high powered Radar, then TV, then a whole slew of wireless communication technology that now envelops the entire planet, minimising your own contact would involve making sure the rest of the planet is not using it, wireless transmissions are not point to point.

    I have no fear of tv antenna or wifi unless they are 1 inches away from my brain.

  • @ecou said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    If the headphone uses APTx and the sending device also supports it, you get 16/44.1 (If they are both designed well enough)
    If the headphone uses APTx HD and the sending device also supports it, you get 24/48 (if they are both designed well enough)
    Note that it is still a compressed format.
    iOS supports neither APTx or APTx HD and Bluetooth is pretty poor for monitoring without either of those.

    @steve99 said:
    I use Arctis 7 ultra low latency bluetooth gaming headphones, not for mixing, just jamming, but they are superb for that with no wires to trip up on. Fairly expensive admittedly, but good battery life (days not hours) and really negligible latency (judged as a finger picking guitar player).

    These were a miraculous discovery for me, I posted about them before on the BM3 forum and got shot down by an expert who'd not actually tried them, I hope that doesn't happen again here... The amazing music I make with them on my ears generally sounds awful on speakers the next day, but that's not necessarily the fault of the headphones.

    Well no you don't, whoever shot you down probably did so because you said ultra low latency bluetooth, which is nonsense in and of itself, add to this what I added above about iOS not supporting the higher definition bluetooth codecs and you get the answer to why people will shutdown any bluetooth talk with monitoring on iOS.
    The Arctis 7 is not bluetooth, it is 2.4ghz which is a much higher quality and lower latency than bluetooth, but consequently uses a dongle to transmit to the headphones.
    Some of the gaming headphones and headsets are actually very good listening headphones, they are comfortable and also less fatiguing than studio cans, but you have to get used to them and listen to a lot of music to make them viable for monitoring.

    @ecou said:

    @gusgranite said:
    I’m really hooked on the convenience of wireless headphones against my audiophool better nature. These test well for example https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/samsung/galaxy-buds-plus-truly-wireless

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth compression when mixing?

    Any thoughts on the impact of Bluetooth on your brain? 😁 I would not jam my brain in between two Bluetooth device that sends and receive UHF waves. 😬😬

    I try to minimize my contact to wireless frequency. Too much of it is not good for you.

    This is near impossible since the onset of Radio, then high powered Radar, then TV, then a whole slew of wireless communication technology that now envelops the entire planet, minimising your own contact would involve making sure the rest of the planet is not using it, wireless transmissions are not point to point.

    I have no fear of tv antenna or wifi unless they are 1 inches away from my brain.

    And you seem to ignore the actual point, wireless is not point to point, the transmissions are around your head no matter what is 1 inch from your brain.

  • edited May 2020

    @Turntablist I know how wireless transmission work. I also know the signal is the strongest around it’s point of origin.

  • @ecou said:
    @Turntablist I know how wireless transmission work. I also know the signal is the strongest around it’s point of origin.

    That's right, it falls off very rapidly via the inverse square law. Like a table lamp that is brightest at the bulb and gradually dims the further away you are from it - light is just another form of electromagnetic radiation. If you stick a light bulb near your head, your forehead will be much brighter than if the light is at the other end of the room.

  • @richardyot said:

    @ecou said:
    @Turntablist I know how wireless transmission work. I also know the signal is the strongest around it’s point of origin.

    That's right, it falls off very rapidly via the inverse square law. Like a table lamp that is brightest at the bulb and gradually dims the further away you are from it - light is just another form of electromagnetic radiation. If you stick a light bulb near your head, your forehead will be much brighter than if the light is at the other end of the room.

    @ecou I am going to ask a huge favour here. I know this is an important conversation to some and I am not trying to shut you down but would you mind creating a new thread in OT about wireless safety, please? I am really enjoying reading about headphones and would love this thread to stay on topic.

    Thanks!

  • I have embarrassing numbers of headphones but the ones that get the most use are the 770, 240-II and HD580.

  • I think I am going to go for Superlux HD 681 EVO. My boys destroyed my AKGs so there's no point spending a fortune on headphones while they're still young. Morphit has a profile for these as well.

  • edited May 2020

    @Turntablist said:

    @steve99 said:
    I use Arctis 7 ultra low latency bluetooth gaming headphones, not for mixing, just jamming, but they are superb for that with no wires to trip up on. Fairly expensive admittedly, but good battery life (days not hours) and really negligible latency (judged as a finger picking guitar player).

    Well no you don't, whoever shot you down probably did so because you said ultra low latency bluetooth, which is nonsense in and of itself, add to this what I added above about iOS not supporting the higher definition bluetooth codecs and you get the answer to why people will shutdown any bluetooth talk with monitoring on iOS.
    The Arctis 7 is not bluetooth, it is 2.4ghz which is a much higher quality and lower latency than bluetooth, but consequently uses a dongle to transmit to the headphones.

    I stand corrected, thank you, that makes sense. So then, in fact I use Arctis 7 2.4Ghz wireless gaming headphones with very low latency. Highly recommended. They do indeed have a usb dongle*, I found a compact USB battery to strap it to (a nomad battery for apple watch) and it lasts for ages.

    My daughter asked me today how many pairs of headphones I had, "one pair less than I need" I replied.

    *edit: USB is for power (+ audio on desk/laptop), 3.5mm jack plug into dongle for audio on iOS

  • @gusgranite said:

    @richardyot said:

    @ecou said:
    @Turntablist I know how wireless transmission work. I also know the signal is the strongest around it’s point of origin.

    That's right, it falls off very rapidly via the inverse square law. Like a table lamp that is brightest at the bulb and gradually dims the further away you are from it - light is just another form of electromagnetic radiation. If you stick a light bulb near your head, your forehead will be much brighter than if the light is at the other end of the room.

    @ecou I am going to ask a huge favour here. I know this is an important conversation to some and I am not trying to shut you down but would you mind creating a new thread in OT about wireless safety, please? I am really enjoying reading about headphones and would love this thread to stay on topic.

    Thanks!

    I’m done! Sorry for derailing the thread.

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  • @ecou said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @richardyot said:

    @ecou said:
    @Turntablist I know how wireless transmission work. I also know the signal is the strongest around it’s point of origin.

    That's right, it falls off very rapidly via the inverse square law. Like a table lamp that is brightest at the bulb and gradually dims the further away you are from it - light is just another form of electromagnetic radiation. If you stick a light bulb near your head, your forehead will be much brighter than if the light is at the other end of the room.

    @ecou I am going to ask a huge favour here. I know this is an important conversation to some and I am not trying to shut you down but would you mind creating a new thread in OT about wireless safety, please? I am really enjoying reading about headphones and would love this thread to stay on topic.

    Thanks!

    I’m done! Sorry for derailing the thread.

    🙏

    No apology necessary 🙂

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