DrumPerfect Pro new free update, new drum packs

Gilbert

@JRSIV said:

@wahnfrieden said:
How suited is this for techno?

There's some shorthand comparisons made about certain apps that I've thought since I began using iOS Music Production apps exclusively in 2015. For example, Auria Pro is like the Pro Tools of iOS. There are several others but for DrumPerfect Pro I really see it as a Superior Drummer or EZ Drummer for iOS rather than an MPC based groovebox.

And like Auria Pro it's complexity often scares people away. But if you give it some time DrumPerfect Pro is really one of the most powerful apps on iOS.

I try to be genre-less and avoid labels but it's inevitable that we all do it. For me, I record more songy-songs in my home studio, either originals or recording demos for friends, etc. Mostly songs with guitar, bass, drums and vocals, verses, choruses, middle rights, bridges, etc. I do love drum machines and electronic music, MIDI, all the rest of it...but for SONGS DrumPerfect Pro is just untouchable.

I like having tons of control so then a "human" feeling drum track is more possible. You can access & change tons of parameters in DDP and the fact that you can use multiple samples with different velocities per instrument is so cool.

But there are pads and 100's of presets too. So you can use it very quickly as a groovebox. I like the way it handles samples, getting stuff in & out is no problem. At this price I think everyone should at least have it in their toolkit.

@royor said:

@Philandering_Bastard said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@Philandering_Bastard said:

@Gilbert said:

@TimRussell said:
This is great news. Any chance of a sale on the IAPs?? 😉

Packs increase in quality while remaning at the same affordable price 😉
So we keep the sale for DPP.

😎 This has been the best comeback to us cheap and greedy buggers I have seen. Bought the 5/4 pack.

Don’t miss the reggae iap and the Afrobeats iap. Both are excellent.

You are a very expensive person to make the acquaintance of on these here anonymous interwebs forums.

@Philandering_Bastard + @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr Thanks to the 2 of you I am now the proud owner of the app + the Reggae + Afrobeats IAPs.. 👍 😁 ❤️ those grooves!
Had iBassist grooving with the Reggae beats.. 🤪 Crazy Good! Slapped on some FAC Transient + ReelBus in AUM on DPP.. Scary stuff..
Also tried the Player version in AUM.. had 14 separate tracks bussed through FAC Transient and only hit 35% on the cpu.. definitely creative potential here.. extra fx, group tracks, add Kai’s MM-1.. hmmm.. could get dangerous..

Thanks @JRSIV, @royor and @Philandering_Bastard for your detailed feedback. We love to hear how DPP users make their music, their creative ideas and their wishes for new updates. We listen.

For those of you who bought the JM1 pack I'd like to offer a new song for this pack: improvising Jazz drums comping in 5/4 ( Take Five if you wish ). Great way to get familiarized with this odd meter, 3/4+2/4 while improvising, at any tempo of course.
Please let me now if you are interested and I'll post it.

Gilbert

@bleep said:
How many patterns/songs/kits are included in the base app? I don't think that's mentioned in the app store, on the web page or in the manual. Is it like a huge variety, or just a handful? Anything similar to Soft Drummer/Jazz Drummer without additional IAP purchase?

Good point! I counted 270 patterns, including those in the FREE IAP pack GM1 ( General Midi ) which covers most of drumming styles from Rock to Latin to Jazz to....
Quite a generous way to start!

bleep

Cheers, sounds indeed generous! Maybe time to jump in on this sale:)

TimRussell

@bleep said:
Cheers, sounds indeed generous! Maybe time to jump in on this sale:)

If you are in any way interested in having realistic drums on iOS DPP, especially at this price, is a must-have

crifytosp

@gusgranite said:
One thing I like about DPP is that it does not drench the kits in reverb and processing so you can apply your own salt and pepper.

that’s a big one

thumbslapper

@Gilbert said:

@thumbslapper said:
just got DPP yesterday and really love it so far - great sounding drums.

is it easy to control with an electronic drum set? is MIDI pretty much setup for either GM or roland (or yamaha) or is there alot of config you have to do?

• Yes, DPP can easily be control with any drum/midi controller. Almost all commands can be triggered by cc.

• All kit instruments can be triggered by midi, you can set a kit to any mapping ( Midi learn or manual ) and save it as a new version.

• 3 IAP packs kits are now mapped to GM. All kits will be by next week.

• You can also record your midi performance directly in DPP.
  ...

@Gilbert - thx so much for this post! i didn't realize you could record as well - so far i'm really loving this app - sounds great and is seriously deep.

qryss

Getting back into DPP, and I have come across something odd.

NS2 doesn’t properly see its songs as presets (no real surprise) but it does see two of them - and when I look in the Files app at the songs folder I find those two songs are zipped (dated March last year) with a time stamp in the filename.

So I must have learnt something (probably here but I can’t find it from searching) that made me zip the songs - presumably to load them into NS2?

I tried zipping another song but that does not appear in NS2. Hmmm.

I’ve also learnt my memory is now officially rubbish.

Anyone able to shed some light on how to use DPP Player in NS2?

SNystrom

Wow! That's pretty bizarre!

qryss

Just to prove I’m not making it up here are some screenshots.

If anyone has any idea what’s going on here I’d love to know! @dendy or @Gilbert ..?

Thanks.

Gilbert

@qryss said:
Just to prove I’m not making it up here are some screenshots.

If anyone has any idea what’s going on here I’d love to know! @dendy or @Gilbert ..?

Thanks.

Hi, I checked my DPP Songs folder, and there are no zipped song..

And all songs appear as presets and play fine in NS2 .

I would suggest that you remove these zipped songs ( which are a package of the song, kit and samples ) from the Songs folder and only keep the .dps song file .
Before the Auv3 indeed used zipped songs to appear as presets, but not anymore now. It is possible that keeping them cause some "inconvenience" with the new version.

Hope this helps otherwise I don't see why that would happen...
Pls let me know if it works.

qryss

@Gilbert that’s the one.

I did have to rebuild the NS2 patch database and then restart the app but now I have all the songs listed in NS2.

Thank you!

Gilbert

@qryss said:
@Gilbert that’s the one.

I did have to rebuild the NS2 patch database and then restart the app but now I have all the songs listed in NS2.

Thank you!

Glad it's working now!

beewan

Finally I got Drum Perfect Pro, it IS quite complex, but I am slowly figuring out most of the details. Very happy so far! One question to AUM users, is there a way to mute an instrument in the main mix (of DrumPerfect), if I am also having it routed to on an individual output? Otherwise I do not really see the use of multi outputs unless you have ALL instruments on individual outs... thanks for advice!

Ailerom

Sadly this sounds pretty limp to me. I'm sure it's mostly my own laziness or mixing inability but coming from a program like Superior Drummer and BFD is tough. There is no auv3 in the ballpark. EG Pulse and the Steinberg sampler are as good as I have found. Feel free to throw me on the stake and light me up.

qryss

There is an AUv3 player, though.

Ailerom

It is great is has auv3. That is what made me check out every video and review I could find. Nothing compelled me to buy it though.

richardyot

@Gilbert one idea you might want to consider for a future app is to release an AUv3 drum sample player. No sequencing, just really great round-robin multi-velocity samples. We can sequence the drums in the DAW of our choice and use your app to provide the sound.

It would be a good way of further monetising all those great samples you have. And you could sell additional sound packs. I would certainly buy such an app.

DPP is a great app but it's pretty complex. And because the AUv3 implementation is not as immediate as it could be, I tend to no longer use it. But I miss the samples, which are great.

Gratouilli

@richardyot said:
@Gilbert one idea you might want to consider for a future app is to release an AUv3 drum sample player. No sequencing, just really great round-robin multi-velocity samples. We can sequence the drums in the DAW of our choice and use your app to provide the sound.

It would be a good way of further monetising all those great samples you have. And you could sell additional sound packs. I would certainly buy such an app.

DPP is a great app but it's pretty complex. And because the AUv3 implementation is not as immediate as it could be, I tend to no longer use it. But I miss the samples, which are great.

That IS such a good idea !

qryss

Yes, that would be seriously awesome.

I keep trying to get into DPP (and it’s entirely because it sounds so good) but it’s hard work, I have to agree. A sample player version would be amazing.

Ailerom

@richardyot said:
@Gilbert one idea you might want to consider for a future app is to release an AUv3 drum sample player. No sequencing, just really great round-robin multi-velocity samples. We can sequence the drums in the DAW of our choice and use your app to provide the sound.

Yep, that's what I'm waiting for. Although I've never heard anything from DPP that made me want it. I just really hope someone does it. I think even if EG Pulse got an update with some serious drum samples it would be pretty good.

beewan

@richardyot said:
@Gilbert one idea you might want to consider for a future app is to release an AUv3 drum sample player. No sequencing, just really great round-robin multi-velocity samples. We can sequence the drums in the DAW of our choice and use your app to provide the sound.

Well, why not keep the sequencer part AND make the AUv3 player a bit more accessible (eg. sample player functionality). I don't know any other sequencer that allows for different time signatures within a measure (!) plus micro time shift (!) plus the humanize functions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do compare the Brazilian rhythms on DPP and the Lumbeat, in terms of "feel" the DPP seems way ahead (I do not have the Lumbeat Brazlian though, but from the videos it seems like it's a grid, right?)

beewan

Another question @Gilbert - in some of the videos / audio clips there is an "Indian" sound pack. Will this be available anytime soon?

richardyot

@beewan said:

@richardyot said:
@Gilbert one idea you might want to consider for a future app is to release an AUv3 drum sample player. No sequencing, just really great round-robin multi-velocity samples. We can sequence the drums in the DAW of our choice and use your app to provide the sound.

Well, why not keep the sequencer part AND make the AUv3 player a bit more accessible (eg. sample player functionality). I don't know any other sequencer that allows for different time signatures within a measure (!) plus micro time shift (!) plus the humanize functions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do compare the Brazilian rhythms on DPP and the Lumbeat, in terms of "feel" the DPP seems way ahead (I do not have the Lumbeat Brazlian though, but from the videos it seems like it's a grid, right?)

Sure, the sequencer in DPP is super-powerful. But I think that the option of developing a simpler app using the existing samples might be an easy win for the dev, and would still be super useful to us as users.

Even though DPP has a very powerful sequencer, I would personally prefer to sequence in a DAW (NS2 in my case) because it's much quicker to put a song together that way.

Gilbert

@beewan said:
Another question @Gilbert - in some of the videos / audio clips there is an "Indian" sound pack. Will this be available anytime soon?

Anytime soon? It has been on and off on the board for more than two years I think.
Probably the most challenging pack. However DPP with its recent features makes it now more possible. Thanks for showing interest.

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@Gilbert said:

@beewan said:
Another question @Gilbert - in some of the videos / audio clips there is an "Indian" sound pack. Will this be available anytime soon?

Anytime soon? It has been on and off on the board for more than two years I think.
Probably the most challenging pack. However DPP with its recent features makes it now more possible. Thanks for showing interest.

I would definitely consider that one too. Hopefully it would have some grooves in 7 and 5.

crifytosp

glad I finally took the time to get to grips with this.

beewan

@Gilbert said:

@beewan said:
Another question @Gilbert - in some of the videos / audio clips there is an "Indian" sound pack. Will this be available anytime soon?

Anytime soon? It has been on and off on the board for more than two years I think.
Probably the most challenging pack. However DPP with its recent features makes it now more possible. Thanks for showing interest.

Thanks a lot, I will definitely be waiting for that one!

Meanwhile I have been trying to create a new drumkit on my own with 8 velocity layers. It seems as if the imported samples were auto-normalized or altered in another way. My very low volume snare samples sound extremely noisy with the gain make up and not "low volume" at all anymore. The same samples in BM3 worked well, so the samples are OK (exported from Drum MicA). Is there a way to deactivate the normalisation and have samples played back at their original volume?

Thanks again!

Marinus

@Beewan: it would be great if you can export and share the snare instrument (Kit view -> longpress Save), such that I can investigate it.

[Deleted User]

I can't for the life of me work out what's going on with the JAM! feature. If I long press on it, it seems none of the included songs have any settings included for it. I move the slider around I don't hear anything obvious going on. It's sure not like the jam intensity in the Lumbeat apps.

The stuff about velocities is also hard to comprehend. I think each instrument (which I think means each drum) has only 2 velocities, and they are cross faded to create the in-between sounds, rather than have each drum sampled at multiple velocities. But I'm not sure that's correct.

The Lumbeat apps have limited features and next-to-no documentation, so are baffling for the beginner. This app has a million features, lots of documentation and it's still mostly baffling. To me at least. Oh dear....

There were 4 clear videos that were super helpful, this was the last one done 4 years ago, which mentioned more were on the way. But the guy seems to have stopped, sadly. They were very clear and idiotproof, and pointed out some of the quirky things about this app. More videos like this covering some of the advanced features would be great.

Ailerom

Another example of an App that I'd like to try for myself but can't due to Apple refund scam. Nothing I have seen or heard has compelled me to buy it but who knows, in the flesh it might have been ok.