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It is quite funny that some people used the argument of time and money saved by using a sample pack vs diggin, nearly every sample pack released will have twenty snares etc that are all basically the same snare, cause you know, if they are buying a sample pack, they are too stupid to set up a velocity filter or velocity pitched envelope or repeat infinitum......
Then there is the never ending trawl of going through poor sample after poor sample to try and find that one sample that is the keeper, often going through pack after pack after pack.
The moral, neither are faster or "save you money" because if you are opening the first sample pack and using the first sample you click every single time, I don't think the OP was ever intended for you.
@TheDubbyLabby not at all sure of what your point (points?) was, but my take away was ‘making money is my concern, not making music’.
The adulation of plastic dolls (fake people?) is also not my motivation for making music.
Also, as a youth, I was rejecting most of what my contemporaries were into. So if I still reject what most of the current youngsters are into, I haven’t become what I fought against back then.
But if you want to use Sample packs, go ahead. You want to use artificial sweeteners, go ahead. You are into bath salts and synthetic weed? Knock yourself out!
Don’t really care for any of that? That is fine, too.
Enjoy your money and fake people.
I will carry on, broke and alone.
😉
Ok then, thanks for explaining, I can only do baby scratches for sure.
If I can bother you a little further since you own the sp01, is the size of the switch practical, can it be used? I’m not planning on becoming a master scratcher but just for fun? Or would I need tweezers?
@CracklePot not to start a war but you have made 100% sense in what you say right here. As the OP I say big respect to you.
I don't see the difference in using sample packs and sampling something off a record which is what hip hop was built on. I personally don't use samples unless it's a sample that I created myself from a synth loop that I made or something but in general I prefer to just sequence synths and drum machines in my tracks.
On a related note, I was just listening to Song Exploder episode on Shook Ones Pt II. Havoc basically made that entire track with 3 samples. So simple and still one of my favorite hip hop tracks
http://songexploder.net/mobb-deep
@rms13 Even if you haven't followed the whole thread, you should be aware that sampling someone elses material can get you into legal troubles. Isn't that a really big difference already? We have not been discussing the musical or technical aspects of sampling but the conceptual and historical aspects of sampling. If you are sampling only your own material then you are sampling only in a technological sense and not in a cultural/artistic sense. Technically there is of course no difference between sampling your own synth and sampling somebody elses synth - but that isn't what the OP is about at all.
Gotcha. Yeah, that is one reason I don't sample but I also wouldn't use sample packs because I feel like I'm just remixing someone else's music. But mainly, sampling just isn't my thing. I recognize the level of skill that you need to use samples well and my brain isn't wired in a way to do it.
BTW, one of my favorite albums of all time of any genre is DJ Shadow's Endtroducing... That is an album that even DJ Shadow has admitted could never be made today because it's all samples and I'm pretty sure I read it was 100% uncleared samples including some nice use of some Metallica samples
@rms13 nice one. Much respect to you. This is what Iam talking about. Makes me proud. Thanks
@rms13 ah, the good old times. I used to like that album quite a bit back then. This reminds me that I actually have no clue when the greedy power grab of the record companies actually started. Anybody know which was the first officially cleared sample?
@Jonny8 Herbie Hancock - Jessica
OP is about policing imaginary boundaries of authenticity. It’s been a troll thread from the start.
@stormbeats And who sampled the sample that had to be cleared?
@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr Sorry, but you are repeating yourself. We've already been down that road.
@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr and you joined but have been left broken. We understand
Why can’t you guys get along? This thread really started up good
I don’t give a fuck, really, just carry on
@pedro exactly. But this whatever @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr seems bit hot bothered and stressed.
@pedro Peace
I’m gonna need more popcorn
This is for all the vinyl junkies.
The throw of the switch itself is a little big because it is a rocker, the physical size of the cap on the switch itself is standard crossfader size, if you did get more in to it, the Jessie Dean optical crossfader is a twenty minute mod and is as highgrade as some of the top scratch opticals.
Personally I would look on ebay, I often see modded PT01 scratches.
It is also worth noting that the original Numark PT01 and the later iON PT01 are the exact same base deck with no crossfader, I got an iON cost £10 boxed brand new off ebay.
But you cant stop posting in it lol.
@CracklePot
excellent and at last a post that can bring some smiles to the thread. Cheers 
We need the traditionalists to guard the sacred ways, and we need kids who don’t give a shit about the rules.
I definitely feel like sample packs are corny, but having loyalty to the way the Sugarhill Gang did it is really reaching back to the past. That was 41 years ago. That would be like the Clash trying to honor the legacy of Bing Crosby’s recording of “Pennies from Heaven,” which was recorded 41 years before “White Riot.”
Actually the Sugar Hill Gang was pre sampling, so they actually went and hired the actual musicians that they wanted to emulate, and had them redo their own backing tracks, now that is the literal definition of living the dream.
Good Times!
King
It’s fun watching you guys defend your imaginary borders. I had you going a few days ago too, didn’t I?
Please don’t demean the forum.
@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr Worlds “second” best. It figures. Heated/non heated debates are cool but you have no debate left. “Its fun watching” bit weird that. Everyone else has had opinions but all in the end stuck to the subject. Just make your music feed the dog feed the pigeons think things through. Put your feet up .
@Turntablist true ting bredrin,