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Sample Packs a big no no in real hip hop /house culture.Try Dig in the crates people be original

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  • xraydashxraydash

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @xraydash said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    Can you elaborate? I interpret your remark as saying that you believe any or all of these things:

    1. Sample based music is not music because it’s not performed live by people playing “real” instruments.
    2. New music can only be created by musicians who “play... music”, which I assume means “real” instruments.
    3. Sample based creators must not know how to play “real” instruments.
    4. Sample based creators are not actually composing music.
    5. Sample based music cannot be a collaborative effort.

    No, that is not my position at all, as I made clear in my first post. Please don’t attribute straw men to me!

    Well, I’m not going to take the time to find that post, but your post quoted above was anything but “clear” if my interpretation is incorrect. The other three people who responded to you, either positively or negatively, seemed to take it the same way. I guess it’s easier to claim “straw man” than to explain what you actually meant.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @xraydash said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @xraydash said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    Can you elaborate? I interpret your remark as saying that you believe any or all of these things:

    1. Sample based music is not music because it’s not performed live by people playing “real” instruments.
    2. New music can only be created by musicians who “play... music”, which I assume means “real” instruments.
    3. Sample based creators must not know how to play “real” instruments.
    4. Sample based creators are not actually composing music.
    5. Sample based music cannot be a collaborative effort.

    No, that is not my position at all, as I made clear in my first post. Please don’t attribute straw men to me!

    Well, I’m not going to take the time to find that post, but your post quoted above was anything but “clear” if my interpretation is incorrect. The other three people who responded to you, either positively or negatively, seemed to take it the same way. I guess it’s easier to claim “straw man” than to explain what you actually meant.

    I accept your apology, my esteemed colleague.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    I get it now. New moon this morning. 🤣🤣🤣

  • xraydashxraydash

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @xraydash said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @xraydash said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    Can you elaborate? I interpret your remark as saying that you believe any or all of these things:

    1. Sample based music is not music because it’s not performed live by people playing “real” instruments.
    2. New music can only be created by musicians who “play... music”, which I assume means “real” instruments.
    3. Sample based creators must not know how to play “real” instruments.
    4. Sample based creators are not actually composing music.
    5. Sample based music cannot be a collaborative effort.

    No, that is not my position at all, as I made clear in my first post. Please don’t attribute straw men to me!

    Well, I’m not going to take the time to find that post, but your post quoted above was anything but “clear” if my interpretation is incorrect. The other three people who responded to you, either positively or negatively, seemed to take it the same way. I guess it’s easier to claim “straw man” than to explain what you actually meant.

    I accept your apology, my esteemed colleague.

    Aren’t you clever? Whatever. Have a nice day.

  • FingolfinzzzFingolfinzzz

    @Lil_Stu07 said:
    I get it now. New moon this morning. 🤣🤣🤣

    To new beginnings

  • TurntablistTurntablist

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    One might get off that high horsey, you just exposed yourself as a complete and total snob who thinks sample based music is neither composed, done in groups or indeed made by musicians or even possible of being new, what a completely arrogant self absorbed idiotic point of view, good luck with your blinkered view of music and how you think "one" should act.

    You seem outraged about something I never said and don’t believe. I’m merely commenting on OP’s absurd argument that music is more original or creative when samples are taken from vinyl instead of sample packs. If you really want original samples, you’ll create original music to sample.

    I guess you get all your backing tracks from all the backtracking you are doing on forums, dig a hole, dig it deeper.

  • Jonny8Jonny8

    @MrSmileZ Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree. The OP specifically mentioned Hip Hop and House culture in connection with sampling. When you (and some others in this thread) claim, that the source of a sample is not important or relevant to the reception of the music you are basically negating the complete history of sampling as an artistic (and subversive) practice.
    As I have said before: please do not neglect to differentiate between sampling as appropriation of somebody elses or "real world" material (which is a cultural and artistic practise) and sampling as a mere technology.
    How would people like John Oswald, Negativland and Public Enemy for example have been able to create their works with commercial sample packs? How would that have had the same impact or meaning?
    Again, for anyone interested in the history of sampling, check out John Leidecker's podcast Variations from radio web MACBA. Another great source that deals with the philosophy behind sampling is DJ Spooky aka Paul Miller's book Rhythm Science.

    I don't want this to come across as ranty, agressive or anything. Commercial samples do have their place in the music and entertainment industry. But especially when it comes to house and hip hop with their vast histories and roots in subculture, please do not neglegt that sampling is not just a technology but a cultural practice.

    Personally I think, that I often seek a personal and emotional connection to the sounds that I am using. I am sure, that I will be treating the recording of a music box my grandmother gave to me as a child very differently from any glockenspiel from a sample pack.
    Sampling as an artistic practice is about history and our personal connections to the world. As a technology it is the imitation of other musical instruments. And only in that second case it may be neglectable, whether you sample a violin sound from a record or from a sample pack.

  • wimwim
    edited June 2020

    I'm struggling over where sampling burps and farts fit into this discussion. Both can be highly creative and original, but where do they fit in culturally?

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @wim said:
    I'm struggling over where sampling burps and farts fit into this discussion. Both can be highly creative and original, but where do they fit in culturally?

    @wim that works just fine because its culturally natural all at the drop of a “wim

  • stormbeatsstormbeats
    edited June 2020

    @Jonny8 said:
    @MrSmileZ Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree. The OP specifically mentioned Hip Hop and House culture in connection with sampling. When you (and some others in this thread) claim, that the source of a sample is not important or relevant to the reception of the music you are basically negating the complete history of sampling as an artistic (and subversive) practice.
    As I have said before: please do not neglect to differentiate between sampling as appropriation of somebody elses or "real world" material (which is a cultural and artistic practise) and sampling as a mere technology.
    How would people like John Oswald, Negativland and Public Enemy for example have been able to create their works with commercial sample packs? How would that have had the same impact or meaning?
    Again, for anyone interested in the history of sampling, check out John Leidecker's podcast Variations from radio web MACBA. Another great source that deals with the philosophy behind sampling is DJ Spooky aka Paul Miller's book Rhythm Science.

    I don't want this to come across as ranty, agressive or anything. Commercial samples do have their place in the music and entertainment industry. But especially when it comes to house and hip hop with their vast histories and roots in subculture, please do not neglegt that sampling is not just a technology but a cultural practice.

    Personally I think, that I often seek a personal and emotional connection to the sounds that I am using. I am sure, that I will be treating the recording of a music box my grandmother gave to me as a child very differently from any glockenspiel from a sample pack.
    Sampling as an artistic practice is about history and our personal connections to the world. As a technology it is the imitation of other musical instruments. And only in that second case it may be neglectable, whether you sample a violin sound from a record or from a sample pack.

    @Jonny8 thank you thank you. Also to add the fact records were used in early hip hop days was because music lessons were not given to the run down cities of new york. Through that neglect they were forced to use records as a medium to create within the culture. I state again that as the OP I am not saying just use vinyl but do have some respect for sampling and its history. These new Sample Pack marketing dudes might want to put what we’ve wrote on there advertised products as a thankyou before capitalising and selling the sweets in the candy store the “hip hoppie hippy dee doo” toys that make a little noise

  • Jonny8Jonny8

    @wim Well, we could take into account for example, that at least burping in some cultures is seen as a polite sign that the food was delicious :smile: I am pretty sure there is a musical burping subculture somewhere on the planet.

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    In plain words. Anyone sampling from sample packs and claiming its hip hop. It is not hip hop at all . Done. Hip Hop is not just music its a way of life and culture like other genres which I have a lot of respect for.

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    Lesson1

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    One might get off that high horsey, you just exposed yourself as a complete and total snob who thinks sample based music is neither composed, done in groups or indeed made by musicians or even possible of being new, what a completely arrogant self absorbed idiotic point of view, good luck with your blinkered view of music and how you think "one" should act.

    You seem outraged about something I never said and don’t believe. I’m merely commenting on OP’s absurd argument that music is more original or creative when samples are taken from vinyl instead of sample packs. If you really want original samples, you’ll create original music to sample.

    I guess you get all your backing tracks from all the backtracking you are doing on forums, dig a hole, dig it deeper.

    I understand that collage artists may feel insecure about their lack of fundamental technique, but that doesn’t make it a less valid art form. Be proud of your work!

  • Jonny8Jonny8

    @stormbeats Quite obviously these new "samplepackers" kind of pervert the DIY beginnings of hip hop culture in a weird way. Not only that, they are probably even perverting the origins of commercial sample libraries which were probably not advertised as "instant hit creation tools". I am no expert but if I remember correctly in the nineties these sample libraries were geared more towards the imitation of acoustic instruments or electronic organ sounds and vintage synths and not out of the box musical styles. Unfortunately history and personal connections are very hard to emulate for a mass market which is why these products seem so completely empty and pointless to me.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @stormbeats said:

    @Also to add the fact records were used in early hip hop days was because music lessons were not given to the run down cities of new york.

    There’s actually a documentary about that:

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Also to add the fact records were used in early hip hop days was because music lessons were not given to the run down cities of new york.

    There’s actually a documentary about that:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr i have not at anytime said sample only from vinyl. Done

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @Jonny8 said:
    @stormbeats Quite obviously these new "samplepackers" kind of pervert the DIY beginnings of hip hop culture in a weird way. Not only that, they are probably even perverting the origins of commercial sample libraries which were probably not advertised as "instant hit creation tools". I am no expert but if I remember correctly in the nineties these sample libraries were geared more towards the imitation of acoustic instruments or electronic organ sounds and vintage synths and not out of the box musical styles. Unfortunately history and personal connections are very hard to emulate for a mass market which is why these products seem so completely empty and pointless to me.

    @Jonny8 exactly. 100% in agreement.

  • Jonny8Jonny8

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr
    Sonic collage artists and technique :smile:

  • stormbeatsstormbeats
    edited June 2020

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr uploading what you call a real docu when its a non factual series FAME that came on tv shows how much you live in reality. You tried to prove a point referencing to me stating no music lessons in inner city new york back then. Now go press play on your vhs . Iam actually laughing. Cheers Mr try to be smarmy

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr lesson2

  • TurntablistTurntablist
    edited June 2020

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    One might get off that high horsey, you just exposed yourself as a complete and total snob who thinks sample based music is neither composed, done in groups or indeed made by musicians or even possible of being new, what a completely arrogant self absorbed idiotic point of view, good luck with your blinkered view of music and how you think "one" should act.

    You seem outraged about something I never said and don’t believe. I’m merely commenting on OP’s absurd argument that music is more original or creative when samples are taken from vinyl instead of sample packs. If you really want original samples, you’ll create original music to sample.

    I guess you get all your backing tracks from all the backtracking you are doing on forums, dig a hole, dig it deeper.

    I understand that collage artists may feel insecure about their lack of fundamental technique, but that doesn’t make it a less valid art form. Be proud of your work!

    Are you one of those next gen bots ?
    Sometimes you are coherent but a lot of the time it is just words for the sake of words.
    Mostly it is just idiotic snobbery that makes you sound like a complete musical bigot.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    One might get off that high horsey, you just exposed yourself as a complete and total snob who thinks sample based music is neither composed, done in groups or indeed made by musicians or even possible of being new, what a completely arrogant self absorbed idiotic point of view, good luck with your blinkered view of music and how you think "one" should act.

    You seem outraged about something I never said and don’t believe. I’m merely commenting on OP’s absurd argument that music is more original or creative when samples are taken from vinyl instead of sample packs. If you really want original samples, you’ll create original music to sample.

    I guess you get all your backing tracks from all the backtracking you are doing on forums, dig a hole, dig it deeper.

    I understand that collage artists may feel insecure about their lack of fundamental technique, but that doesn’t make it a less valid art form. Be proud of your work!

    Are you one of those next gen bots ?
    Sometimes you are coherent but a lot of the time it is just words for the sake of words.
    Mostly it is just idiotic snobbery that makes you sound like a complete musical bigot.

    I tend to respond to rude trolls with good-humored trolls. Consider yourself snagged, my friend.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @stormbeats said:
    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr uploading what you call a real docu when its a non factual series FAME that came on tv shows how much you live in reality. You tried to prove a point referencing to me stating no music lessons in inner city new york back then. Now go press play on your vhs . Iam actually laughing. Cheers Mr try to be smarmy

    You’re fun, bro. Where are you from?

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr uploading what you call a real docu when its a non factual series FAME that came on tv shows how much you live in reality. You tried to prove a point referencing to me stating no music lessons in inner city new york back then. Now go press play on your vhs . Iam actually laughing. Cheers Mr try to be smarmy

    You’re fun, bro. Where are you from?

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr on a train getting far away from you

  • Jonny8Jonny8

    Two albums that just couldn't have been made with sample packs.

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @Jonny8 good stuff ^ check this

  • TurntablistTurntablist

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    One might get off that high horsey, you just exposed yourself as a complete and total snob who thinks sample based music is neither composed, done in groups or indeed made by musicians or even possible of being new, what a completely arrogant self absorbed idiotic point of view, good luck with your blinkered view of music and how you think "one" should act.

    You seem outraged about something I never said and don’t believe. I’m merely commenting on OP’s absurd argument that music is more original or creative when samples are taken from vinyl instead of sample packs. If you really want original samples, you’ll create original music to sample.

    I guess you get all your backing tracks from all the backtracking you are doing on forums, dig a hole, dig it deeper.

    I understand that collage artists may feel insecure about their lack of fundamental technique, but that doesn’t make it a less valid art form. Be proud of your work!

    Are you one of those next gen bots ?
    Sometimes you are coherent but a lot of the time it is just words for the sake of words.
    Mostly it is just idiotic snobbery that makes you sound like a complete musical bigot.

    I tend to respond to rude trolls with good-humored trolls. Consider yourself snagged, my friend.

    If you aren't a bot, you certainly aren't all there.

  • stormbeatsstormbeats

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @stormbeats said:
    Not to say “you should not” but damn guys its getting cheddar cheesy now. With the multitude of audio sources on the internet to sample your own discoveries to me this Sample Pack crew are lazy. Go deep into a sample *uck all that Royalty Free blah blah Get some vinyl

    How is sampling vinyl any more original than buying a sample? Either way, you’re starting with someone else’s work. I’m not dissing either approach, but they seem like more or less the same thing to me.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr no one who has agreed with my post said you should only do this or that. My reasons for saying is a “no no” in hiphop is Sample Packs sampling then saying “made a great hip hop track” is not part of the culture. A lot of deep searching goes into it. And the good thing is you learn about the artist/composers etc you sample from. Knowledge

    One might also learn how to actually play and compose music, get together with other musicians to create something new, etc.

    One might get off that high horsey, you just exposed yourself as a complete and total snob who thinks sample based music is neither composed, done in groups or indeed made by musicians or even possible of being new, what a completely arrogant self absorbed idiotic point of view, good luck with your blinkered view of music and how you think "one" should act.

    You seem outraged about something I never said and don’t believe. I’m merely commenting on OP’s absurd argument that music is more original or creative when samples are taken from vinyl instead of sample packs. If you really want original samples, you’ll create original music to sample.

    I guess you get all your backing tracks from all the backtracking you are doing on forums, dig a hole, dig it deeper.

    I understand that collage artists may feel insecure about their lack of fundamental technique, but that doesn’t make it a less valid art form. Be proud of your work!

    Are you one of those next gen bots ?
    Sometimes you are coherent but a lot of the time it is just words for the sake of words.
    Mostly it is just idiotic snobbery that makes you sound like a complete musical bigot.

    I tend to respond to rude trolls with good-humored trolls. Consider yourself snagged, my friend.

    If you aren't a bot, you certainly aren't all there.

    As we say in England - not the full biscuit. But @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr its cool as OP no intended attacks on anyone.

  • Jonny8Jonny8

    @stormbeats
    I like that! Funny thing is that I know very little hip hop (and house) :blush:
    This is one of my favourites though...they are really good.

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