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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • @White said:
    I'd like to give some recognition and credit to the team at Imaginando

    @sinosoidal and @xglax ( I don't know if others are on the AB forum)

    First at all for making LK an audio unit and the Auv3 midi clip launcher many users have been waiting for 😊

    But also for the many improvements you have added since then:

    Among other

    • Add clip properties panel
    • Add loop start/end in clip properties panel
    • Add clip length in clip properties panel
    • Add midi trigger with channel and cc in clip properties panel
    • Add follow action in clip properties panel
    • Add clip copy/paste
    • Add delete clip to slot options
    • Add move scene up and down
    • Add midi file import to clip
    • Remove clip's zoom limits in the pianoroll

    plus you have been quick to fix reported bugs and make LK really stable 😊

    I think LK works really well as an audio unit in AUM, it's easy to import midi files into clips and record midi from the internal keyboard and chorder and from other audio units.

    Editing notes in the pianoroll editor is quite easy as well 😊

    I think LK is missing recording/editing automation. E.g. it would be really nice to be able to add pitch bend to the midi notes.
    I hope you will consider adding it in a future version 🙏

    I don't see a lot of talk about LK on the AB forum, but for me it's the midi pianoroll editor/clip launcher I have been waiting for 😊

    Keep up the good work 😊👍

    Thank you very much for your kind works Mr @White and specially your feedback. It has been crucial! :blush:

    Since we have released the AUv3 support, a new range of possibilites have been added to LK. That also triggered some new challenges regarding stability that didn't happen before. We had to make demanding but important restructures to the code which took us a lot of time. Our next effort will definitely be midi cc recording. Please stay tuned!

    Many do not realize that the app has been in the App Store since 2015 but since it was only available as an Ableton Live controller it didn't meant much to many here. If you like LK and feel it does help you in any way, please spend a minute to rate the app on the App Store, it means the world to us.

    As always, your feedback is highy appreciated and very welcome. Good or bad, we are here to hear you and respond to your needs as musicians! Unfortunately, we now spend much more time developing than being creative making music. It does take a lot of time to develop software and when we have a spare time, we are usually tired of looking at screens! :blush:

    Thank you very much for your support! :blush:

  • @sinosoidal : great to hear that midi cc capture/playback is next. Does that mean it will capture play back an MPE performance?

  • @White said:
    I'd like to give some recognition and credit to the team at Imaginando

    @sinosoidal and @xglax ( I don't know if others are on the AB forum)

    First at all for making LK an audio unit and the Auv3 midi clip launcher many users have been waiting for 😊

    But also for the many improvements you have added since then:

    Among other

    • Add clip properties panel
    • Add loop start/end in clip properties panel
    • Add clip length in clip properties panel
    • Add midi trigger with channel and cc in clip properties panel
    • Add follow action in clip properties panel
    • Add clip copy/paste
    • Add delete clip to slot options
    • Add move scene up and down
    • Add midi file import to clip
    • Remove clip's zoom limits in the pianoroll

    plus you have been quick to fix reported bugs and make LK really stable 😊

    I think LK works really well as an audio unit in AUM, it's easy to import midi files into clips and record midi from the internal keyboard and chorder and from other audio units.

    Editing notes in the pianoroll editor is quite easy as well 😊

    I think LK is missing recording/editing automation. E.g. it would be really nice to be able to add pitch bend to the midi notes.
    I hope you will consider adding it in a future version 🙏

    I don't see a lot of talk about LK on the AB forum, but for me it's the midi pianoroll editor/clip launcher I have been waiting for 😊

    Keep up the good work 😊👍

    +1. Really good updates recently have turned this into a very useful app.

  • @sinosoidal : midi cc capture/playback FTW!

  • edited August 2020

    @espiegel123 said:
    @sinosoidal : great to hear that midi cc capture/playback is next. Does that mean it will capture play back an MPE performance?

    I'm not sure about that. Can you explain better?

    For me, CC recording is the ability to have an automation lane that can be written manually, or during a recording by CC input (by software or hardware) on a certain track clip

  • @sinosoidal
    MPE as a midi data stream will send each note-on /off combination on a different midi channel, the note-on is accompanied by a a pitch-bend and CC-74 message, later-on AfterTouch and modwhell can be send on the notes midi channel to manipulate that specific voice. After the same note’s note-off on that channel, the channel will later be re-used for another voice - often the MPE keyboards do robin-round of the channels 2-16 for each note press.

    Channel 1 is special, there will be no note message with MPE, and CCs, AT, PB etc will affect all voices ( In the synth added to the value specific to each channel). There are also some special midi messages to intialize MPE send on channel 1, but i think one can omit these without problems.

    To record MPE, one needs to record including the channel to use it on replay

    • note on/off
    • CC messages (especially CC-1 and CC-74)
    • PitchBend
    • AfterTouch
    • On MPE replay, each midi message needs to be send on its original channel.

    .

    I don‘t know if some synth will depend on the order of the note-on/pitch-bend/CC-74 send for each note. I have seen that KB-1 send them in N/P/C order, while geoshred sends C/P/N and velocity keyboard uses P/N/C...

  • ^this

    Lots of quality ios apps from imaginando. LK is great and Im slowly making my transition from Atom to this as my Aum piano roller.

    Midi cc will make this app stand out even more. Ill be showing my appreciation by buying more iaps and now Im off to give a review.

    Ive been using LK in Auria to avoid its nightmarish midi editor and Im loving it again Thats big news for me

    Will ppl be saying this is ‘modstep auv3’ we have been dreaming of.

  • I’m just looking into this app now.
    Which IAP do I need to use it as a piano roll?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    @TimRussell said:
    I’m just looking into this app now.
    Which IAP do I need to use it as a piano roll?

    Matrix

    It's free to try, btw.

  • edited August 2020

    Ok cool.
    Has anyone compared this to the piano roll in Cubasis 3?

  • @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

  • @MichaelRocketship said:
    @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

    Of course! Maybe we could discuss what other follow actions would be great to have, here with the other uses.

  • Other ones nice to have would be stop, first, last, next, previous and how many bars /beats before the change. Having follow actions on the scenes would also be great so you could have a song mode :)

    @sinosoidal said:

    @MichaelRocketship said:
    @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

    Of course! Maybe we could discuss what other follow actions would be great to have, here with the other uses.

  • @Carnbot
    Sounds good, just like ableton follow actions

  • Is there a way to get the keyboard to remember held notes that were still be held when an AUM session was saved or cleared and then reloaded? This would be useful to me for saving an instance of each keyboard with Arpbud @sinosoidal

  • @sinosoidal As i‘m now using LK Matrix as my multi-channel-midi pattern player, i noticed that the ‚play‘ state of the pattern isn‘t saved in the session/preset.

    For instance, when i‘ve setup 6 different, looped pattern on 6 different midi tracks in a single scene, each time i reload the scene, i have to open LK Mattrix and press the ‚play scene‘ button to the right before i press play in the host. With other sequencers, the play-state is saved and re-loading a session plays right away, no extra step needed.

    If one uses LK Matrix with many pattern on different tracks and several scenes (like the grid in Ableton), i imagine it will become quite cumbersome to write down the whole state and manually re-enabled the same pattern combination running as on the session save.

    Feature Request:
    It would be nice if LK Matrix remembered which of its pattern is playing and then re-loads the same selection :)

  • @_ki said:
    @sinosoidal As i‘m now using LK Matrix as my multi-channel-midi pattern player, i noticed that the ‚play‘ state of the pattern isn‘t saved in the session/preset.

    For instance, when i‘ve setup 6 different, looped pattern on 6 different midi tracks in a single scene, each time i reload the scene, i have to open LK Mattrix and press the ‚play scene‘ button to the right before i press play in the host. With other sequencers, the play-state is saved and re-loading a session plays right away, no extra step needed.

    If one uses LK Matrix with many pattern on different tracks and several scenes (like the grid in Ableton), i imagine it will become quite cumbersome to write down the whole state and manually re-enabled the same pattern combination running as on the session save.

    Feature Request:
    It would be nice if LK Matrix remembered which of its pattern is playing and then re-loads the same selection :)

    Yes, totally agree! We will add this to our todo list. Thanks for the suggestion/report.

  • Thanks for the reply and addtion to the suggestion list 👍🏽

  • edited September 2020

    We have released version 1.7.5 that does a couple of fixes:

    • Aims to fixes some crashes that are being reported
    • Fixes imported MIDI clip length
    • Add scroll functionality to clip properties panel

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lk-for-ableton-live-midi/id944972221

    If you haven't rated LK on AppStore please spend a minute doing it so. There is a lot people that doesn't understand what LK is and do and rate us with 1 star because it doens't "play sound"! :disappointed:

  • I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

  • edited September 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.
    edit: my guess, it's something around rec q (poly, overlapping notes or something)

  • @sinosoidal Great to hear that MIDI CC are coming next.
    With or without MPE this will be a super useful enhancement.
    Thank you!

  • edited September 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.

    Its always good to see what you in between. Sometimes the trick is in this little particularites of an indiviudal flow. Looking forward to see your video so we can exactly replicate it and see if we can reproduce the crash.

    Edit: You can also send us the AUM project if you are using AUM

  • @rs2000 said:
    @sinosoidal Great to hear that MIDI CC are coming next.
    With or without MPE this will be a super useful enhancement.
    Thank you!

    Mpe would be INSANE

    please do it, would be the game changer of the year

  • edited September 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.

    Its always good to see what you in between. Sometimes the trick is in this little particularites of an indiviudal flow. Looking forward to see your video so we can exactly replicate it and see if we can reproduce the crash.

    Edit: You can also send us the AUM project if you are using AUM

    Will do. So saving / sending AUM project after crash helps as well?
    Here is the report for this last crash

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.

    Its always good to see what you in between. Sometimes the trick is in this little particularites of an indiviudal flow. Looking forward to see your video so we can exactly replicate it and see if we can reproduce the crash.

    Edit: You can also send us the AUM project if you are using AUM

    Will do. So saving / sending AUM project after crash helps as well?
    Here is a crack report for this last crash

    Sorry, here where? :blush:

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.

    Its always good to see what you in between. Sometimes the trick is in this little particularites of an indiviudal flow. Looking forward to see your video so we can exactly replicate it and see if we can reproduce the crash.

    Edit: You can also send us the AUM project if you are using AUM

    Will do. So saving / sending AUM project after crash helps as well?
    Here is a crack report for this last crash

    lol
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/yyqdgr7l037gp4c/appex-2020-09-07-131953.zip?dl=0

  • edited September 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.
    edit: my guess, it's something around rec q (poly, overlapping notes or something)

    I had a similar crash prior to the latest update. Had 4 tracks recorded then set 5th up with EG Pulse and was sending notes in via the pads and the whole LK instance crashed. Lost everything. Tried a different setup with Tonality Chord Pads and it didn't crash but after a while, notes were sustaining for no reason and extra notes started playing with each chord press. Haven't done any real tries since this newest update but hoping these things get fixed since LK is the only AUM sequencer that can import midi.

    Any plans for midi export?

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