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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • @sinosoidal : midi cc capture/playback FTW!

  • edited August 2020

    @espiegel123 said:
    @sinosoidal : great to hear that midi cc capture/playback is next. Does that mean it will capture play back an MPE performance?

    I'm not sure about that. Can you explain better?

    For me, CC recording is the ability to have an automation lane that can be written manually, or during a recording by CC input (by software or hardware) on a certain track clip

  • @sinosoidal
    MPE as a midi data stream will send each note-on /off combination on a different midi channel, the note-on is accompanied by a a pitch-bend and CC-74 message, later-on AfterTouch and modwhell can be send on the notes midi channel to manipulate that specific voice. After the same note’s note-off on that channel, the channel will later be re-used for another voice - often the MPE keyboards do robin-round of the channels 2-16 for each note press.

    Channel 1 is special, there will be no note message with MPE, and CCs, AT, PB etc will affect all voices ( In the synth added to the value specific to each channel). There are also some special midi messages to intialize MPE send on channel 1, but i think one can omit these without problems.

    To record MPE, one needs to record including the channel to use it on replay

    • note on/off
    • CC messages (especially CC-1 and CC-74)
    • PitchBend
    • AfterTouch
    • On MPE replay, each midi message needs to be send on its original channel.

    .

    I don‘t know if some synth will depend on the order of the note-on/pitch-bend/CC-74 send for each note. I have seen that KB-1 send them in N/P/C order, while geoshred sends C/P/N and velocity keyboard uses P/N/C...

  • ^this

    Lots of quality ios apps from imaginando. LK is great and Im slowly making my transition from Atom to this as my Aum piano roller.

    Midi cc will make this app stand out even more. Ill be showing my appreciation by buying more iaps and now Im off to give a review.

    Ive been using LK in Auria to avoid its nightmarish midi editor and Im loving it again Thats big news for me

    Will ppl be saying this is ‘modstep auv3’ we have been dreaming of.

  • I’m just looking into this app now.
    Which IAP do I need to use it as a piano roll?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    @TimRussell said:
    I’m just looking into this app now.
    Which IAP do I need to use it as a piano roll?

    Matrix

    It's free to try, btw.

  • edited August 2020

    Ok cool.
    Has anyone compared this to the piano roll in Cubasis 3?

  • @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

  • @MichaelRocketship said:
    @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

    Of course! Maybe we could discuss what other follow actions would be great to have, here with the other uses.

  • Other ones nice to have would be stop, first, last, next, previous and how many bars /beats before the change. Having follow actions on the scenes would also be great so you could have a song mode :)

    @sinosoidal said:

    @MichaelRocketship said:
    @sinosoidal Any plans for more clip follow actions? i.e ‘first’?

    Of course! Maybe we could discuss what other follow actions would be great to have, here with the other uses.

  • @Carnbot
    Sounds good, just like ableton follow actions

  • Is there a way to get the keyboard to remember held notes that were still be held when an AUM session was saved or cleared and then reloaded? This would be useful to me for saving an instance of each keyboard with Arpbud @sinosoidal

  • @sinosoidal As i‘m now using LK Matrix as my multi-channel-midi pattern player, i noticed that the ‚play‘ state of the pattern isn‘t saved in the session/preset.

    For instance, when i‘ve setup 6 different, looped pattern on 6 different midi tracks in a single scene, each time i reload the scene, i have to open LK Mattrix and press the ‚play scene‘ button to the right before i press play in the host. With other sequencers, the play-state is saved and re-loading a session plays right away, no extra step needed.

    If one uses LK Matrix with many pattern on different tracks and several scenes (like the grid in Ableton), i imagine it will become quite cumbersome to write down the whole state and manually re-enabled the same pattern combination running as on the session save.

    Feature Request:
    It would be nice if LK Matrix remembered which of its pattern is playing and then re-loads the same selection :)

  • @_ki said:
    @sinosoidal As i‘m now using LK Matrix as my multi-channel-midi pattern player, i noticed that the ‚play‘ state of the pattern isn‘t saved in the session/preset.

    For instance, when i‘ve setup 6 different, looped pattern on 6 different midi tracks in a single scene, each time i reload the scene, i have to open LK Mattrix and press the ‚play scene‘ button to the right before i press play in the host. With other sequencers, the play-state is saved and re-loading a session plays right away, no extra step needed.

    If one uses LK Matrix with many pattern on different tracks and several scenes (like the grid in Ableton), i imagine it will become quite cumbersome to write down the whole state and manually re-enabled the same pattern combination running as on the session save.

    Feature Request:
    It would be nice if LK Matrix remembered which of its pattern is playing and then re-loads the same selection :)

    Yes, totally agree! We will add this to our todo list. Thanks for the suggestion/report.

  • Thanks for the reply and addtion to the suggestion list 👍🏽

  • edited September 2020

    We have released version 1.7.5 that does a couple of fixes:

    • Aims to fixes some crashes that are being reported
    • Fixes imported MIDI clip length
    • Add scroll functionality to clip properties panel

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lk-for-ableton-live-midi/id944972221

    If you haven't rated LK on AppStore please spend a minute doing it so. There is a lot people that doesn't understand what LK is and do and rate us with 1 star because it doens't "play sound"! :disappointed:

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

  • @sinosoidal Great to hear that MIDI CC are coming next.
    With or without MPE this will be a super useful enhancement.
    Thank you!

  • edited September 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.

    Its always good to see what you in between. Sometimes the trick is in this little particularites of an indiviudal flow. Looking forward to see your video so we can exactly replicate it and see if we can reproduce the crash.

    Edit: You can also send us the AUM project if you are using AUM

  • @rs2000 said:
    @sinosoidal Great to hear that MIDI CC are coming next.
    With or without MPE this will be a super useful enhancement.
    Thank you!

    Mpe would be INSANE

    please do it, would be the game changer of the year

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.

    Its always good to see what you in between. Sometimes the trick is in this little particularites of an indiviudal flow. Looking forward to see your video so we can exactly replicate it and see if we can reproduce the crash.

    Edit: You can also send us the AUM project if you are using AUM

    Will do. So saving / sending AUM project after crash helps as well?
    Here is a crack report for this last crash

    Sorry, here where? :blush:

  • edited September 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    I must be doing something wrong... after each update I give it a go and it always crashes within minutes by simply feeding notes into it. :(

    Well, we have people that test each version before it's released and we don't have issue being reported. LK is not flawless yet but I would definitely love to see what you are doing. Are you able to record a screen capture of your entire flow until crash happens? Thanks! :blush:

    I'll try... but there was nothing special in my last attempt. 1 midi generator (Rozeta Collider) sending notes to LK on Ch1 (rec quantise 1/16 enabled, 4bar long clip) passing then to AU synth (iSEM).
    When I tried to record incoming midi it crashed after couple of notes.
    edit: my guess, it's something around rec q (poly, overlapping notes or something)

    I had a similar crash prior to the latest update. Had 4 tracks recorded then set 5th up with EG Pulse and was sending notes in via the pads and the whole LK instance crashed. Lost everything. Tried a different setup with Tonality Chord Pads and it didn't crash but after a while, notes were sustaining for no reason and extra notes started playing with each chord press. Haven't done any real tries since this newest update but hoping these things get fixed since LK is the only AUM sequencer that can import midi.

    Any plans for midi export?

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    Here is a crack report for this last crash

    It doesnt help much as I'm not able to know where it crashes with this file. Are you able to submit a crash report through the device?

    That should be done automatically if you have "Share With App Developers" enabled under iOS -> Settings -> Privacy -> Analytics & Improvements -> Share With App Developers

  • @Lil_Stu07 said:
    Any plans for midi export?

    Entire song or clip only?

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:
    Any plans for midi export?

    Entire song or clip only?

    Either. With full song, it's easy to export just the clips by exporting after setting up a clip. Per clip would be helpful if you hadn't planned on exporting until completion. But either would be useful and I'm sure greatly appreciated.

  • I'm intrigued by the possibilities with this. If the crashes get patched up, it would be possible to create, mix, master and export an entire song in AUM. I find myself most creative in the AUM environment. Would be lovely to sequence everything there and have a finished track in one program.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @sinosoidal Great to hear that MIDI CC are coming next.
    With or without MPE this will be a super useful enhancement.
    Thank you!

    Mpe would be INSANE

    please do it, would be the game changer of the year

    +1 for MPE

  • edited September 2020

    Hi @sinosoidal , I had a crash as explained by @0tolerance4silence. This is not replicable because I tried to repeat the same actions but the crash did not occur.
    I was able to did a log.
    Only LK, KB-1 and TAL-U-NO-LX in action (same with other synths).
    First load LK, load KB-1 and connect to LK, load TAL-U-NO-LX and connect to LK and receive only to channel 1, arm rec and play button on LK, play notes with KB-1, open piano roll editor, LK crashes.
    Log report on: https://dropbox.com/s/noh1hhcck5edocw/appex-2020-09-07-191920.ips?dl=0

    iPad Pro 12” 2015 - iPadOs 13.6

  • Can this have the same midi input across tracks and different midi output across tracks and only input midi but trigger the midi and audio of an auv3 in aum, when you switch tracks?

  • wimwim
    edited September 2020

    @sigma79 said:
    Can this have the same midi input across tracks and different midi output across tracks and only input midi but trigger the midi and audio of an auv3 in aum, when you switch tracks?

    Yes.

    You can set the midi input device and and the output channel separately for each track. Whichever track is armed will be the one that midi is sent from when you play. In AUM you then set up each auv3 channel to listen on just the one channel for that track.

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