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Moodunits from Moodscaper [auv3] // Available Now!!!

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  • edited September 2020

    @Hypervox said:
    These sound lurvverly... :smile: When will they be available Rob?

    Thanks. Still "in review" I'm afraid. I was hoping to sneak this through just before the iOS 14 release, but alas, no. :neutral:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Is the main instrument a Rompler?

    Essentially yes - these additional instruments are samples plus some presets. We're looking at "Waverley" here and it's an AUv3 AudioUnit only, so needs a host - in this case GarageBand, for a change :smile: moodunits also comes with some FX (delay, reverb, distortion), but Waverley's the main thing really.

    Re other sounds / instruments... I was actually experimenting earlier trying to make a killer lead synth type sound this afternoon. This simple little setup certainly has some bite to it! :smile:

    There is no MIDI sequencer, but with the emphasis shift to Audio Units for IOS music-making, don't be surprised if moodunits gets one at some point - although that's not a promise, as I'm having way too much fun making sample instruments at the moment - it's the thing I actually like doing the most :smiley:

  • edited September 2020

    Thanks, man.

    Its simplicity is its selling point, but that's for some paradoxical reason difficult to convey!

  • edited September 2020

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Thanks, man.

    Its simplicity is its selling point

    Thanks :smile: I got a one star review in the App Store the other day because it was too "basic". Just goes to show you can't please all of the people all of the time :smile:

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  • @moodscaper said:
    Re other sounds / instruments... I was actually experimenting earlier trying to make a killer lead synth type sound this afternoon. This simple little setup certainly has some bite to it! :smile:

    There is no MIDI sequencer, but with the emphasis shift to Audio Units for IOS music-making, don't be surprised if moodunits gets one at some point - although that's not a promise, as I'm having way too much fun making sample instruments at the moment - it's the thing I actually like doing the most :smiley:

    Killer little rig!
    You just keep on following that passion of making sample instruments.. I’m thoroughly enjoying the results from this perspective.. 😁 👏 Can’t wait to play with the new Waverley sounds..

  • Bought. Sounds great. Fun to use.
    I assumed the parameters would be exposed, but most are not. That would REALLY make these vital. Any plans for this?

  • edited September 2020

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Bought. Sounds great. Fun to use.
    I assumed the parameters would be exposed, but most are not. That would REALLY make these vital. Any plans for this?

    Cool thanks! It's something I would like to do, but it's a serious amount of work I'm afraid. On the one hand, the idea with Waverley is find a sound you like, tweak it, and you're good to go. But I understand realtime parameter modulation is a big deal for some.

    Out of curiosity, what parameters would be the most useful to be exposed? Why do I know that someone's gonna say "all of them" :smile:

    Next update, I'll put a note on the App Store description about parameters not being exposed.

  • Wow, so there are people who leave one-star reviews to $5 apps for being too basic? What a world we live in...

  • @richardyot said:
    Wow, so there are people who leave one-star reviews to $5 apps for being too basic? What a world we live in...

    😂😂😂

  • edited September 2020

    @moodscaper said:
    Out of curiosity, what parameters would be the most useful to be exposed? Why do I know that someone's gonna say "all of them" :smile:

    @moodscaper
    All of them :smile:

    Me personally would basically like the synth modifiers to be exposed (Waverley):

    Have yet to look into the different effects...

  • Definitely everything, if possible! @moodscaper

  • edited September 2020

    Well, like I say, it's a significant amount of work for a (ahem) $5 app :smile: And of course, the benefits of that work to a GarageBand user for example, will be zip, so it's a tough call for me, priority-wise.

    Anyhoo, I will try and look into it at some point, and thanks for the feedback. So, yeah - everything basically! :smiley: Hopefully, my idea for a generic fix for this will mean that pretty much any parameter could be automated.

    Right now though, I'm otherwise engaged. It looks like there are problems with IAPs in iOS 14. Which might explain why my IAP-focussed release has been "in review" for almost 3 days... Of course, it was all working fine, testing on 13.7 :neutral:

    I also did a very quick test around the AUv3 presets issues reported in another thread, and I think moodunits are OK, unless someone can tell me otherwise? IAA also seems to work fine, despite bits of AU being broken in iOS 14, oh... the irony...

    I also noticed accessing the Ableton Link SDK (host or app) seems to throw up a network permissions alert, so don't be freaked out by that. Not sure what would happen if you didn't allow it, other than borking Link I guess.

    I remember mocking the iOS 13 release as mostly being new emojis. I kinda wish 14 had been more like that now... :smiley:

  • I understand how you must feel, and I feel childish asking for it!

    But you've already got the Cutoff and the Resonance exposed in the Loch Awe Filter. Those two parameters show up in the AU midi control. So maybe that was an accident? I really like how this app sounds, but without movement of the tremolo, for instance, it becomes rather static.

    It's well worth $5 as is, and I'll happily stump for more sounds. But I think I won't probably reach for Waverly if I know I can't modulate it much.

  • edited September 2020

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    But you've already got the Cutoff and the Resonance exposed in the Loch Awe Filter. Those two parameters show up in the AU midi control. So maybe that was an accident?

    Well... :blush: Actually, those are exposed on purpose and should hopefully work fine with zero "zipper" noises or artefacts that you might hear on some other stuff - delay times being a classic example. Due to my misunderstanding on what constitutes a parameter being "exposed", everything else looked like it was exposed in v1.0 accidentally.

    Thanks for the other comments, and I'm not saying I won't support this - just not sure when exactly :wink:

    FWIW, some of the future instruments I'm planning on doing will be more of an evolving nature. Again, FWIW, I think that's more in line with the moodunits design goals - decent-ish / usable sounds that just need a few tweaks, and you're good to go.

    At the end of the day though, I'm not going to try and make Waverley the modulatable-fest that say, Continua can be. Horses for courses and all that jazz :smile:

  • @moodscaper said:
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    Out of curiosity, what parameters would be the most useful to be exposed? Why do I know that someone's gonna say "all of them" :smile:

    Filter cutoff, delay and reverb wet/dry mix, envelope attack and release, would be my top choices.

  • @moodscaper
    Re the sequencer—the one in Touchscaper is really nice. An au version would be great. I might buy it as a separate app.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    @moodscaper
    Re the sequencer—the one in Touchscaper is really nice. An au version would be great. I might buy it as a separate app.

    Me too🤟

  • Yea I’ve been checking for the update quite frequently. C’mon Apple...

  • @moodscaper said:
    FWIW, some of the future instruments I'm planning on doing will be more of an evolving nature. Again, FWIW, I think that's more in line with the moodunits design goals - decent-ish / usable sounds that just need a few tweaks, and you're good to go.

    At the end of the day though, I'm not going to try and make Waverley the modulatable-fest that say, Continua can be. Horses for courses and all that jazz :smile:

    That’s definitely the beauty of moodunits + my initial attraction (of course they sound amazing too).. We already have a plethora of modulatable synth + fx apps to tweak to our heart’s content.. I say accept moodunits (and Waverley in particular) for what they are already + enjoy that simplicity.. if you need more, then it’s probably time to reach for a different tool.. and that’s OK too.. 😎

    Hmmm.. MUs.. muse.. 🤔

  • I don't know, I mean, I love the sound of these, but more tweaking options are always useful for the reasons @echoopera outlined earlier. I do miss being able to automate these.

  • I don't know how much effort is required to make it happen — I wouldn't even venture a guess.

    But exposed parameters seems to be standard these days. Even the Erik Sigth apps (small, inexpensive) have dozens of midi control options.

    I do know that I'll have it in the back of my head that as nice as it sounds, Waverly is limited, and — being brutally honest here — I'd probably load a different synth.

  • @Gavinski I hear you.. Here’s my thoughts behind it..
    Rob has already done an amazing job with touchscaper.. adding things left + right, whether they were part of his master plan, I don’t know.. It’s a beautiful music making experience.. I’m sure when he’s in touchscaper mode, it takes a ton of his time + effort to either add stuff or fix possible bugs etc... So, I see moodunits as his let-his-hair-down + play app.. discover some super cool sounds (from some of the great hardware he has) and assemble them easily for the rest of us to enjoy.. simple interface, simple controls.. relaxing for everyone..

  • Just realised I wrongly tagged echo opera when I meant to tag @ExAsperis99!

  • @royor said:
    @Gavinski I hear you.. Here’s my thoughts behind it..
    Rob has already done an amazing job with touchscaper.. adding things left + right, whether they were part of his master plan, I don’t know.. It’s a beautiful music making experience.. I’m sure when he’s in touchscaper mode, it takes a ton of his time + effort to either add stuff or fix possible bugs etc... So, I see moodunits as his let-his-hair-down + play app.. discover some super cool sounds (from some of the great hardware he has) and assemble them easily for the rest of us to enjoy.. simple interface, simple controls.. relaxing for everyone..

    I'm with you! The sounds are great! I'm being greedy.

  • edited September 2020

    @moodscaper : happy with Moodunits now, and will be happy to purchase the IAP whenever it appears. (Already posted a 5 star review). If I might second the view of @Gavinski above, though, I would be even happier still to see all the parameters exposed. There’s nothing I like more than chucking a slow sample and hold LFO from Art Kern’s MIDILFOs at an exposed parameter on just about any app I can just to see what’ll happen. It’s usually something good... :)

  • edited September 2020

    Please expose all parameters @moodscaper
    That’s becoming more and more of a necessity for my production workflow.

  • edited September 2020

    Exposing them is easy - I did that originally in v1.0.0 by accident :smile:

    Having the AU handle parameters being exposed... so you don't get artefacts / glitching / "zipper" noise, is not so easy. AKA parameter ramping. It's a lot of work I'm afraid, so can't say when I'll get round to looking at it. I've updated the App Store description for the next release to clarify this limitation.

  • @moodscaper said:
    Exposing them is easy - I did that originally in v1.0.0 by accident :smile:

    Having the AU handle parameters being exposed... so you don't get artefacts / glitching / "zipper" noise, is not so easy. AKA parameter ramping. It's a lot of work I'm afraid, so can't say when I'll get round to looking at it. I've updated the App Store description for the next release to clarify this limitation.

    Oh ok. Didn’t realize. Still an amazing app, can’t wait for this update and IAP....

  • Any news about the update @moodscaper ?

  • edited September 2020

    @Charlesalbert - still "in review" allegedly. But... My suspicion is that it's not going to move until 14.2 is out. More than a little frustrating - sorry about that. On the upside, means I've had time to do another set of instruments using the rig pic above plus pretty much all my other Strymon pedals... :smile:

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