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FWIW, if you can adjust by MIDI, these are really settings to fine tune by hand, and then use the gain and input levels for realtime changes in the sound.
Thanks, but... when I press + I can expand the list of midi CC comands. When I choose the new created one, and choose "aspect", there are orange bars with categories. There is no categorie for these specific row of knobs, and also not under amp settings. I can´t find these aspects in the list.
So I think they are not available. But maybe there is a reason for this, or maybe there are not enough CC numbers available (max 128).
Did you + expand both the global midi menu and the individual presets menu?
ha, that is it. in the individual menu, there is a possibility to assign other functions, on the screen. I will dive into that right now.
thanks!
Yes, it works, the catch is that the midi settings for the top row knobs only work for one single preset. And it is way to much work to set the midi assign up for all excisting presets. I use a Korg Nanostudio, and this controller has 8 rotating knobs. In the global section, you can assign the bottom row knobs for the rig player itself, no matter what preset is loaded.
But to learn more about these top row functions and what they do to the sound, I can use this single preset for a while, as an experiment. There is probably no real need to tweak this buttons a lot. When I know what the impact is of turning these knobs, I can do it on the touch screen. The interface of THU leaves a lot to desire, it feels clumsy, you want to turn the knob on the screen, instead what you get is a list.
update: I have got a working construction. I made a new folder for my own presets, at the bottom, 105. Inside I copied blanks of my 4 purchased rigs, SuperReverb/Trem63/Bassman/Dang.
Inside these 4 blanks, I made the midi connection for the top row knobs, I had to do this 4 times.
The Korg Nanocontrol Studio has 8 rotary knobs, and 8 scenes. So in my setup scene 1 is the 8 knobs for the top row knobs, and scene 2 is for the bottom row in THU. When I switch scene I can controle al the knobs in a the rig player.
The THU preset management is also a bit flawed. You have to copy a preset or blank first to an empty slot, and then start tweaking the knobs and other settings. If you start tweaking without making a copy, you have to overwrite your old settings, there is no "save as" possible. As far as I know.
Other little problem is the knobs on the Korg share functions, so when you switch scene on the Korg, and turn a knob you have to check first what the position is of the knob on the screen, it jumps to another position. Endless encoders would solve this problem. I used to own such a controller but sold it.
My new problem is my Korg Nanostudio loses connection when I don´t use it for a while. A new controller would be welcome, like the little Korg with sliders and knobs. Sliders for the bottom row knobs in THU, and knobs for the top row.
https://www.korg.com/nl/products/computergear/nanokontrol2/
Or the Akai controller with lots of knobs
https://www.akaipro.com/midimix
But then you have to get so much stuff extra just to run a simple amp sim, it is a bit too much of a hassle, it defeats the purpose. The Ipad touch screen should do all the work, in the end. THU has to improve the interface.
@raabje thanks for your detailed midi explanation. Someone posted here that if you long-press on the save icon, you will have the option to Save-as.
wow… anybody using Camelot Pro for iPad with TH-U?
Ok thanks, I will look at this save as feature. And I can tell you now, a hardware solution for the top row knobs is pretty useless!
The definition knob is a low cut filter, turn it up and the sound gets thinner. This knob is actually used in all the rig presets
Power sag and the compressor knobs, they work, but they kill the dynamics. Leave this untouched, as in most of the presets.
Clarity, I don´t know what this does, it is not used in presets. I have to check the manual for a description. I don´t hear a difference.
Tube shape, in the presets this knob is mostly set at 10 o'clock. I don´t hear a difference, with low or high gain.
Tube bias, I don´t hear a difference with low or high gain, in presets it is not used
Direct mix, I don´t hear a difference, in presets it is not used.
Level does work.
So, in the end, when you link the bottom row knobs to a midi controller (global setting), this is more then enough. The other settings have none or low impact to the sound and are indeed only for small or minor changes.
@raabje yeah, i might just configure to select presets or remove drive pedals or engage Pitch shifters etc. i still haven’t got that far yet. Haven’t even got a rig yet. But soon God willing!
Wow! Gonna check it for sure!
Anyone have experience with Camelot Pro? Does it allow you use the iPad Headphone out while simultaneously using a two in/out channel audio interface?
It smells like a new expansion pack spirit
Yes, the "save as" function works, just long press the pencil symbol. That makes it less dificult.
For THU, is they are reading this, my request is:
You should contact them vIs their site. They don’t monitor AB forum (only a few developers actively monitor the forum)
Sorry to hijack this thread but there are not many conversations about THU in here. Has anyone successfully managed to change presets in THU with MIDI PC messages from a hardware controller when it's hosted inside of another app? As for me I'm in Loopy Pro. I have tried all the settings(of which there are not many) with zero success.
It does respond properly in Stand-Alone.
It does (about half the time) respond to widgets in Loopy Pro sending PC messages.
What a great sounding app! I sure wish I could use it.
I am not sure this will help, but I had an experience like this:
I connected two midi controllers in AUM, an Akai mini keyboard, and Korg Nanostudio, both with an USB cable. I connected both to THU in the cable management menu.
The midi messages from the Korg where received in THU, I think because of the AUM connection.
The midi messages from the Akai where only received in THU when I chose Akai as an input source in THU itself. Then I could use both controllers at the same time.
THU only allows one connection in its own midi menu. So did you choose your hardware controller as the midi source in the THU menu, when hosted in Loopy Pro?
I did not try changing presets with buttons, only turning knobs.
It works for me. I've never seen it fail with a widget in LP. If there is no hardware connected, do the widgets still only work some of the time?
When it fails, are you sure that there is a program at the number you are sending in the active bank?
Can you post a screenshot or screenshots of the widget's setup?
When in a host, THU will listen to the MIDI sent to it from the host independent of the global setting (the setup is confusing and non-standard in this regard).
Now, I am able to get it to happen with just a widget. I'll try in AUM with mozaic to see if it behaves the same.
This is crazy. Until this morning, I couldn’t get program change to fail to THU in LP. Now that I have , it is failing at least half the time.
It isn’t failing at all in AUM when I send to it from a Mozaic script even with rapid changes. The exact same script run in LP succeeds none of the time.
OMG! This video of the Mesa Mark V! Wow! So beautiful!
Beautiful review of the Mesa Boogie Mark V:
Best one so far!
It's not an amp itself. Andy Timmons will sounds great even when he connect his guitar into the fence
Anyway I have the real Mesa/ Boogie and it really sounds amazing!
Jan 12-Update: Finally got a response from Overloud Support. They were nice to offer small discount. I appreciate it and grateful!
Will update AppStore review also.
Jan 11-
So going back to THU Overloud customer service, well, i only hear Crickets now. Sent them emails after emails, but now i see we are just a little IOS niche and no big loss to them. I guess the demand is so high on the desktop side we are really chopped liver.
I’m still gonna get it though, I really wish they could have at least worked out something for the special pricing timing snafu. @overloud Thomas, hopefully you’re still working there. Customers are the lifeline of a company. Hopefully they never forget this fact.
Totally agree on your setup for the pedals! Love your pedalboard!
hello people, a shameless plug: look at this if you use Mozaic,I have build a template for controlling the rig player with the touch screen, instead of a hardware midi controller. The zip file is in the message.
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/48681/mozaic-code-for-thu-rig-player-possible#latest
The question is, is using Mozaic to control the rig player more convenient than the THU interface itself. Time will tell.
I did not get a response to Overloud to a ticket from a month or two ago.
However, I've adapted and continue to enjoy the product on iOS.
Awesome! Thanks will check it out 👍🏼
I still trying to understand what some folks mean when they say future proof by buying desktop first then buying IOS version? Isn’t the IOS better deal as prices are much more affordable compared to desktop?
Future proof cross platform meaning if you intend to use th-u both on desktop and iOS. If you buy a rig on desktop then the same rig is $1 on iOS. And when a new rig comes out on desktop it’s always at intro price so it’s like getting a 2 for 1. If you buy iOS only you still have to pay full price on desktop.