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Is NanoStudio 2 going to be updated ever again? Resolved.
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OK that made me laugh.
It's fine when it gets down to specifics and stops useless whining. You're not whining but this thread opened the door for a few with a axe to grind leveraging an opening for righteous indignation.
If you think the ABF can ever know the mind of a developer you are mistaken.
Some disclose but many just stick to their knitting. That's a business decision
because the customer is NOT always right... sometimes they are just jerks that see an opening and play the "liar" card when the shit hits the fan on a
roadmap detail. Many just learn... no promises or roadmaps. @giku_beepstreet has been playing it loose with his updates but its risky at best.
Didn't most of the DAW's have some issues with AUv3 MIDI?
Does Gadget allow the use of AUv3 apps? IAP's in Gadget are expensive and worth every penny but still it's Korg or nothing. I can pipe MIDI in and fake audio DAW with BPM of 20 and 8 beats per bar but just workarounds for a product that was designed for the Beat Maker. NS2 was designed for EDM I think but probable provide basic BeatMaking features.
BM3 was really made for BeatMaking and has AUv3 I think and maybe IAA.
Anyway... these 2dn tier DAW's are very targeted in their designs: Gadget, BM3, ZenBeats, NS2 and some of the BeatBoxes.
In some way i agree - both are apps for synth/sampling based production. Just NS2 has vastly better sequencer, and vastly more powerful mixing/routing capabilities. And it's main "dadget" can easily replace 3/4 of Gadget gadgets in terms of modulation capabilities and sonic range
)) Of course Gadget wins with simplicity and number of available plugins. Seriously, i like both of them, by combining of these two, posibilities are almost limitless for creative mind.
Interesiting is that both of them are not naming themselves as "DAW" in AppStore description ... Korg's definition of Gadget is "all-in-one music production software" and Nanostudio's definition is "Musicproduction enviroment for synthesis, sampling, arranging and mixing".
Actually sometimes i make short loops / sequences in Gadget and then i load them into NS2 for finishing track. Gadget is great sketchpad for ideas but finishing whole track is painful process for me there.
the title was "will it ever be updated again?" and you end with "Time to find a new DAW on the iPad?"
I get that perhaps all you wanted to do was vent your frustration, but this is the conversation we get from such a pointless contribution. It wasn't really my intention to be snarky, but this whole thread has just been a back and forth about whether or not folks got scammed out of something they expected and whether or not audio tracks were promised or not. Where does this conversation go? we have no control over the progress of the app, and the only thing we can really talk about is whether or not NS2 satisfies our needs or not. so here we are.
Some of us think its enough, some of us don't. If you don't think its enough, yes, its time to find a new DAW on the iPad.
Is iOS 14 going to be updated ever again?
Most likely. Apparently iPadOS14.2 beta 1 dropped earlier today...
(I'm not installing betas, just listening to what those who do have to say).
I’m gonna say it again. I’m glad that I’m not an iOS developer butttttttttt......I have mad respect for those that do it and reading comments made by A`Holes and continue providing updates and apps. I wouldn’t be able to continue on. Hats 🎩 off to you iOS developers. I appreciate each and every single one of you. I’ve never had this much fun making music before and because you guys decided to take a chance with a niche platform you bring happiness to a lot of people I know. Thank you 🙏🏽.
@Bill_Brasky sorry your post got derailed. It happens a lot here 🤷🏽♂️
Whereas comments like that one you made just brighten the place up.
But hey, at least there's self-appointed guardians like you to put the 'A 'Holes' in their place, eh?
Only read the first and last page of this thread...
1 Yes it is a hobby project, and just because somebody makes a bit of money off their hobby does not mean you own them or any part of their hobby.
2 If you paid £30 for this, you either wanted it for what it did at that time, or you are a complete fool, it is well known for being on sale a lot.
3 But there were promises made, oh please, you buy it for what it does, if you buy anything for what somebody you do not know says it will do at some point down the road, you deserve everything you don't get, especially when those promises were paid updates anyway.
🤔 @MonzoPro you seem hurt by my comment. Not sure why. Are you saying you’re one of them?????? Asking for a friend.
As have all of us, even us 'A 'Holes'.
Yeah and don't we all know it, when a developer is deemed "Unworthy" it's Victor Meldrew time.
You tell me, was that comment directed at me?
Who said the developer was 'unworthy'?
You know what, just carry on and enjoy your whining, I have better things to do.
Answer the question. If you're going to jump in and start throwing accusations around, at least have the balls to back them up.
If my comment was specific I would have called you out or tagged you or whomever. It’s you who decided to reply to my comment.
Based on how you usually reply here when people don’t agree with your opinions or statements; People are allowed to have an opinion and comment in this forum.
Now kindly let it go as I’m not here to go back and forth with people.
Yes master, we all need to do as the great monzo says hahahaha.
Except when they have a criticism of a particular app? As demonstrated pretty clearly in this thread.
"People are allowed to have an opinion and comment in this forum."
So you can't provide an example of where someone suggested that the developer was 'unworthy'?
Let me just say it again. I like NS2 for what it is. The promised features may still come out but being me I just want to know if they’re coming out before i invest in another production environment.
Most of my posts Get about 10 comments. I expected a similar output here, not an overly heated debate.
I’m not attacking the developer. I purchased his product based on projected updates. These updates may or may not come. I never said anything malicious to or about the dev. So to all the developer guardians in here, you can lower your banners and spears.
So who are the 'A 'Holes' you referred to Hans?
No, and you can't supply an example of where the developer promised you anything, but you don't shut up about it, my use of the word unworthy was a general comment of how people act in this forum, yes I understand that is beyond your super literal comprehension (as you have shown here) get over it and leave my balls out of it.
No-one did Bill, neither did anyone suggest he was 'unworthy'. But the developer guardians throw these things in when anyone says anything negative about certain apps so they can justify calling people 'A 'Holes'.
I bought NS2 at launch at full price plus IAP’s. No problem with any of it. As I remember, the roadmap was universal version, audio tracks and a high efficiency convo reverb. All were to be “reasonably priced” IAP’s. No problem with any of that either.
From memory, the next thing I knew the train got derailed because of “user requests” regarding AUfx and automation plus Audiobus integration. OK... not anything I really needed but whatever. I was fine with automating internal fx and supplementing with some select AUfx. Otherwise I was absolutely in love with NS2 pretty much to the exclusion of anything else. I was just looking forward to audio tracks to make it (for me) complete.
I followed the NS2 forum and (IMHO) this is where things got f ‘ed up because from what I was reading, there were issues with the way some AUfx were implemented. They might work OK in other apps but NS2 followed certain (proper) protocols which exposed weaknesses in many AUfx. So the dev had to deal with other devs and get these things straightened out.
This probably took time, effort and resources that were intended for audio tracks. Over time there’s a good chance that other circumstances came up which reduced dev’s time for NS2.
So all that to say, I blame the users who ask for more and more and more, many times (IMHO) when they couldn’t possibly have spent significant time with the app as it was and explored what they could really do with it. Sometimes I think constant requests for updates are unreasonable and can totally derail a devs intentions. Depending on what they are they may be reasonable, but in some cases they can cause big problems which, once again IMHO, can bring a project to its knees.
These are my observations and opinions and I’m not looking for a debate. Nor do I mean to diminish anyone else’s viewpoint. I just feel like some people have seen this whole thing in a way that is based less on how this has gone down but more on knee jerk reactions to a combination of accurate and inaccurate information.
Now I need a nap. 😴
I posted a direct quote, twice, where a member of the testing team made a statement about audio tracks coming in the summer of 2019. Since this forum played a major part of the testing and promotion of the app, many of us accepted this was going to be the case. Maybe you missed that.
But the reason I don't 'shut up about it', is because that wasn't my initial criticism about the developer anyway. But as you lot don't 'shut up about it', and keep going on about updates and coding I'm having to respond to the false comments and accusations you keep making.
@Monzo see my post above yours if you have a moment. I believe summer 2019 was the original plan derailed by the whole AUv3 thing.