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  • Finally! 🤘

  • @JeffChasteen said:
    While I was thoroughly enjoying the prolonged agony of Fat Donnie and the MAGA cult, the inevitable has finally been announced.
    President-Elect Joseph Biden!

    @SpartanClownTide said:

    🤣
    The “pianist” makes this especially hilarious.

  • I heard yelling outside of my house in Brooklyn. I checked Twitter: ABC Calls it!
    within a minute, every neighbor on my block is out banging pots and pans and cheering. Cars driving down the block honking. It’s unreal still, but I feel my blood pressure is going down.
    Now, on to the Senate runoff in Georgia!

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    I heard yelling outside of my house in Brooklyn. I checked Twitter: ABC Calls it!
    within a minute, every neighbor on my block is out banging pots and pans and cheering. Cars driving down the block honking. It’s unreal still, but I feel my blood pressure is going down.
    Now, on to the Senate runoff in Georgia!

    I’m here in a blue oasis in Georgia, and hearing whoops of joy up and down my street.

    Abrams did a great job on blue turnout in the general election; I’m optimistic that her talent, hard work, and genius will continue with the runoffs.

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  • While it is a relief that Trump has lost, the darkness has not ended. Barring Trump’s disastrous response to COVID, he would likely have been re-elected. Trump has made it “legitimate” to push fringe conspiracy, anti-democratic and anti-science points-of-view—along with an aesthetic of violence. Those voices may now have been brought permanently into mainstream conservatism. We’ll see if they recede back into the shadows or not. I fear not...and those folks have an electoral advantage baked into our strange land-based electoral system. In a couple of years time ... despite being a minority, their voices will be amplified even more due to Congressional redistricting whose lines will be drawn to maximize their influence...as they have in Wisconsin and other states where they maintain large legislative majorities even though having the support of barely 50% of the population.

    Consider that over half of the lifetime appointments on the Supreme Court were made by Presidents elected in spite of losing the popular vote.

    Let’s be relieved by the reprieve, but we aren’t out of the woods.

  • Congrats! And huge kudos to all Americans that got out to vote despite all trickery with hours in line what not and on top of that: the corona. Impressed and relieved.

  • In a quiet residential neighborhood in KCMO and a couple of celebrating cars have come through.

    To use two tired analogies a huge weight has been lifted but we’re still in a huge hole we need to dig out of.

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  • @ecamburn said:
    In a quiet residential neighborhood in KCMO and a couple of celebrating cars have come through.

    To use two tired analogies a huge weight has been lifted but we’re still in a huge hole we need to dig out of.

    So has the whole world but at least it feels like an old friend has started to come to it’s senses.

  • @JeffChasteen, yeah Stacy Abrams! The Georgia governorship was seemingly stolen from her. She fought back in a big way. If the Senate flips Democrat on a Jan 5 it will, in large part, be due to her indefatigable efforts. She was on Biden’s short list for VP. A powerful force for good.

  • The most dangerous thing for america to do right now is to consider this a victory. A break from some of the insanity, maybe, but not at all a victory. The same people who refused to follow guidelines will continue to refuse. The people who believed trump when he said he was being robbed will continue to believe it. Some media will still give trump a platform to critique every move of the new president...and before anyone thinks this was a narrow loss by the current administration, recognize he had 7 million more votes in his favor than last time. Trump and Biden both have the most votes in their names in history. Whatever people might assume trump lost from his poor management over the years, 7 million plus people still decided he was the way to go. Some of them are still going to follow him.

    This was not a victory.

  • @chocobitz825 said:
    The most dangerous thing for america to do right now is to consider this a victory. A break from some of the insanity, maybe, but not at all a victory. The same people who refused to follow guidelines will continue to refuse. The people who believed trump when he said he was being robbed will continue to believe it. Some media will still give trump a platform to critique every move of the new president...and before anyone thinks this was a narrow loss by the current administration, recognize he had 7 million more votes in his favor than last time. Trump and Biden both have the most votes in their names in history. Whatever people might assume trump lost from his poor management over the years, 7 million plus people still decided he was the way to go. Some of them are still going to follow him.

    This was not a victory.

    Indeed. I'm still glad it happened but there is a lot of work to be done to heal the divides at the heart of American life and politics.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    While it is a relief that Trump has lost, the darkness has not ended. Barring Trump’s disastrous response to COVID, he would likely have been re-elected. Trump has made it “legitimate” to push fringe conspiracy, anti-democratic and anti-science points-of-view—along with an aesthetic of violence. Those voices may now have been brought permanently into mainstream conservatism. We’ll see if they recede back into the shadows or not. I fear not...and those folks have an electoral advantage baked into our strange land-based electoral system. In a couple of years time ... despite being a minority, their voices will be amplified even more due to Congressional redistricting whose lines will be drawn to maximize their influence...as they have in Wisconsin and other states where they maintain large legislative majorities even though having the support of barely 50% of the population.

    Consider that over half of the lifetime appointments on the Supreme Court were made by Presidents elected in spite of losing the popular vote.

    Let’s be relieved by the reprieve, but we aren’t out of the woods.

    You mirror my thoughts exactly.

  • I think Biden should start by offering an olive branch to Donnie:

    Ambassador to Russia or North Korea — his choice.

    No matter what Donnie does, he'll have to leave the country to avoid the innumerable criminal charges and lawsuits that he has thus far be able to avoid due to executive privilege.

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  • @Max23 and yet increased his votes among Latino and black males in this latest election. It's complicated!

  • @Max23 said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    While it is a relief that Trump has lost, the darkness has not ended. Barring Trump’s disastrous response to COVID, he would likely have been re-elected. Trump has made it “legitimate” to push fringe conspiracy, anti-democratic and anti-science points-of-view—along with an aesthetic of violence. Those voices may now have been brought permanently into mainstream conservatism. We’ll see if they recede back into the shadows or not. I fear not...and those folks have an electoral advantage baked into our strange land-based electoral system. In a couple of years time ... despite being a minority, their voices will be amplified even more due to Congressional redistricting whose lines will be drawn to maximize their influence...as they have in Wisconsin and other states where they maintain large legislative majorities even though having the support of barely 50% of the population.

    Consider that over half of the lifetime appointments on the Supreme Court were made by Presidents elected in spite of losing the popular vote.

    Let’s be relieved by the reprieve, but we aren’t out of the woods.

    Trump played with the fears from heterosexual white male Americans.

    No doubt he gave the orange sex-a-peel.

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  • Hope they’re going to deep clean the Whitehouse before they take up residency, it’s infested.

  • Never cared much for Biden winning it was about Trump losing and seeing the Libertarians gain a bit more this year. If the Libertarians keep gaining each election year, they might be in contention by 2030.

  • @CapnWillie said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @Max23 and yet increased his votes among Latino and black males in this latest election. It's complicated!

    It’s really not complicated. This over covered by media increase in black males is 2 percent. A whopping 2 percent.lol

    As far as Latinos...it’s majority SoFlo Cubans down here by me who hate the government in their homeland and are easily manipulated by anti-communism propaganda. It was a unique election for them. Trump was hard on Cuba so the old Cubans repayed them. The younger ones went for Biden. Simple.

    As the conspiracy specialist who oversatuated the thread submitted...Americans are none too bright. As a population. This is very factual. Just is. People are very under and misinformed true.

    Still...the facts. Of the fucked up racist, selfish and out of touch white people who vote...an increasing majority of good ones are balancing the scale finally and showed up big time. 2016, they let America and the world down. Just facts.

    Of the fucked up Black men who equate to Tom’s and House Boys of Plantation eras...they make up a very insignificant and un impactful number. They are mostly richer and have escaped their experience or want to forget about it. Others, just simply aspire to. But it isn’t debatable that they will never reach numbers approaching impactful for someone like Trump. Non story.

    *Edit. Also included in that very insignificant number of Black men for trump are immigrants (African, Caribbean, etc) who don’t necessarily identify as “black” Americans.

    Kanye got a few insignificant votes and I guarantee it was mostly white kids who can afford and love his shoes. Black people would never even support their own Trumpish figure. Ever.

    Trump is a uniquely white issue.

    Finally...should be noted many Latinos consider themselves whites. Many who don’t...want too especially in America. It isn’t very complicated at all.

    I agree! See how simple things are when people are prepared to stand corrected 😊

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    Putting party politics to one side (I’m not in America) I am so relieved to see Trump get beat purely from a leadership perspective. He has been the very worst role model for leadership that I could possibly imagine.

    I am bringing up two young boys and Trump has been the definition of how not to behave, how not to react, how not to communicate.

    When you think about what leadership really means. What the act of listening involves. What decision making requires. How you research a subject to the point where you can speak on it. It’s like someone took all of the worst possible leadership characteristics and created Donald Trump.

    For this reason I am so relieved to see him beaten.

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  • @gusgranite yes. A lot of the problem lies in the way debate is conducted. It is often a sparring match. No one is listening to the other side, just trying to win. We need new norms of healthy debate. This goes back a long way in western culture. Look at Socrates, our idol. His debates were never really open. It was always about Socrates winning 😂

  • This x 1000 !

    @CapnWillie said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @Max23 and yet increased his votes among Latino and black males in this latest election. It's complicated!

    It’s really not complicated. This over covered by media increase in black males is 2 percent. A whopping 2 percent.lol

    As far as Latinos...it’s majority SoFlo Cubans down here by me who hate the government in their homeland and are easily manipulated by anti-communism propaganda. It was a unique election for them. Trump was hard on Cuba so the old Cubans repayed them. The younger ones went for Biden. Simple.

    As the conspiracy specialist who oversatuated the thread submitted...Americans are none too bright. As a population. This is very factual. Just is. People are very under and misinformed true.

    Still...the facts. Of the fucked up racist, selfish and out of touch white people who vote...an increasing majority of good ones are balancing the scale finally and showed up big time. 2016, they let America and the world down. Just facts.

    Of the fucked up Black men who equate to Tom’s and House Boys of Plantation eras...they make up a very insignificant and un impactful number. They are mostly richer and have escaped their experience or want to forget about it. Others, just simply aspire to. But it isn’t debatable that they will never reach numbers approaching impactful for someone like Trump. Non story.

    *Edit. Also included in that very insignificant number of Black men for trump are immigrants (African, Caribbean, etc) who don’t necessarily identify as “black” Americans.

    Kanye got a few insignificant votes and I guarantee it was mostly white kids who can afford and love his shoes. Black people would never even support their own Trumpish figure. Ever.

    Trump is a uniquely white issue.

    Finally...should be noted many Latinos consider themselves whites. Many who don’t...want too especially in America. It isn’t very complicated at all.

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