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Novation Components for iOS
Hey guys!
I have filed support tickets twice in 2020 to Novation at
https://support.novationmusic.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new
to push them forward making an iOS version of the Components software to fully use the Launchkey mk3 series and other products without having to resort to PC or Android. I have had an answer that it IS doable but they are patiently waiting for more requests from their customer base...
Please help me, or us, out here by filing a simple support ticket at the above address asking for Components for iOS!
Regards,
DMfan
Attention @SMKArtist @AmpifyxNovation @Jumpercollins
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I've filed a request.
👍
on it
Done
I don't think this is gonna happen... it's even worse.. they're intentionally blocking developer of Circuitry editor ( from releasing it to Appstore ..
This is post from circuitry developer:
I wrote im recently and he replied he definitely gave up on this :-(( Which is a big pity because that editor is really great (i'm signed as beta tester)
I asked directly on Novation facebook what is status, and i got this reply... Shame on Novation, will never buy anything from them ... I also regret i bought circuit, i really don't like for such corporate approach.
Sorry that novation was so corporate too you, that sucks,
This app still works? So maybe something else is happening with the burocrats.
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midisynth-control/id1366849280
Afaik Components is based on a web-midi protocol that is blocked by Apple due to security concerns, so if novation was going to write an app it would not be components, but something else. I think that MIDISynth is as far as you would be able to go with iOS control over a cuircit. If you want components on iOS petition Apple dev?
Nope. There is no securit issue with web-midi (in case Apple stated this, then it's just another corporate blah blah, if not directly lie)
Problem is just that many parts of HTML5 specifications are just slowly adopted by various browsers... iOS is not only one who is behind, also Firefox is slow it adopting various HTML5 proposal / specification things...
here is current adoption stage:
https://caniuse.com/midi
Shame on Novation for blocking such a great app. Particularly when they provide no alternative themselves. There’s really no reason for them to be so mean-spirited.
I’d recommend people write to Novation and ask that they either ok release of Yuri’s app or provide an iOS solution and do it politely without accusing them of anything.
+1
Sent.
Novation should of offered that guy a job at Novation for creating Circuitry rather than blocking him shame on them. I requested iPad support for LP and Circuit loads of times but to no avail.
Done FWIW
Slightly different but related...
I wonder how difficult it would be to emulate these controllers from Lemur or Mozaic. Are there any legal implications if such patch would be shared for free? It would be useful for many, since Atom2/LK both getting native support.
Posted on the iPad Musician group on FB.
wait so the app cannot be approved without novation saying ok?
Should be possible indeed, as long as it's MIDI messages.
If only Apple were as picky with their own iOS code quality.
I did this a while ago and got the same answer as you did
Yes. This is Apple rule (but i guess it's some inevitable result of some stupid LAW, something about intellectual properties or other crap - in other words LAW helping big companies to supress competition) .. It's relatively new rule, it was not there back then and it is applied just to NEW submitted apps, not to apps already in Appstore (so those submitted in past aren't affected)
Sad reality is, developer must ask Novation for permission because his app uses their produkt. Apple is not allowed to publish app until developer doesn't have such permission. In this case Novation refused to give permission (which was confirmed by their reply to my question on their official Facebook page).
Novation is there bad guy, not Apple.
End of story.
It's combination of CC and NRPN messages .. Does know Mozaic NRPN messages ?
here is specification:
https://d2xhy469pqj8rc.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/novation/downloads/12118/circuit-programmers-reference-guide-v1-0.pdf
I wouldn't say Novation are the bad guys as such. If a third party app was released and didn't work as expected (especially due to Novation changing stuff at a later date) people would bitch at Novation for any issues.
It's a shame that they won't give permission, but I can understand why they won't. Having to explicitly give permission also kind of implies that the app is done with their assistance. I bet a lot of people would take it that way, nobody would bother reading the description where it stated otherwise!
It's an unfortunate set of circumstances.
Blame the litigiousness of corporations and the fact that we're not allowed nice things without actual bad people trying to ruin it for us requiring safety and security to be more important than a customer's convenience.
I have a personal website based on WordPress. Every day I get literally dozens of attempts from people trying to hack their way in to my site (and others I administer). Whatever they are trying to do I can guarantee one thing: They don't have a legitimate reason for consistently trying to break in to my site.
That's the world we live in. They're the bad guys, not Novation. In my very humble opinion in any case ;-)
Seriously? So you would have to include all manufacturers of Bluetooth headsets, wired headphones, MIDI interfaces, audio interfaces, BT MIDI dongles, synthesizers, groove boxes, DMX equipment, whatnot.
This sounds like a big joke but it's not unlike 2020 😁
PS: This case with Novation involved sounds like a big misunderstanding and/or lack of good communication.
Why would Novation not want to sell their products to iDevice owners too?
Shall we call Uli for the rescue?
😁
wonder how long it’ll stay on test flight
...
This seems a bit unfair to Focusrite.
Im not a fan of focusrite at all, but I have to say if they own all intellectual property. Then they can do whatever they want with it. They don't owe anybody anything or are required share any of that. If any one of us where to spend millions on R&D products we wouldnt just give that up. No company does. They would not be in business any more. Here is a simple a fictional example of how dumb this sounds.
Hi. Apple,
I'm a t-shirt manufacturer, I have made a very cool t-shirt about Apple and want to sell it and make a profit from it. Also I would like you to sell them at the Apple retail store and online on your website. Hopefully that's OK. Please let me know.
Thank you very much,
T-Shirt maker #141789
Apple response: No...........
IMO this sound ridiculous. I do agree that corporations try there best to protect intellectual property for there own survival. Sometimes crippling forward development as a spices. This method is not the best bay any means, but this case is not that.
Also if you bought something from them or anybody else for that matter. in the past it doesn't mean they owe customers anything aside from support. If you bought a product from them you got that product. That's what you paid for and that's what you got. Nothing else.
Is it because of the app name? Because it references their brand/IP? What if he changed the name?
The app is just using sysex/midi, so there isn't anything specific that is proprietary. There are other sysex editors in iOS already, so it may be the design or name of the app that's causing Apple/Novation to block it. If it references their brand too specifically, then it could be construed as official.
yea i was thinking just change the name. however, foreseen problem is that people will buy it that don’t have circuit thinking it’s some other thing 😂 not everyone’s super smart lol
True, but at least we'd get to buy it, hehe.