Drambo is an AU host now / the new Drambo mega thread

bleep

True! Drambo has good portrait mode support.

RajahP

@bleep said:
See red icon upper right. Just keep the AU in this compact view, and not the module icon view.

So with this, you may scroll through and interact with 16 open windows quickly, something you can’t do in AUM.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you..

This is nice.. very nice.. Thanks again..

sloJordan

@bleep is it possible to adjust the height of a track? Would be really convenient if you didn't need to scroll within the AU for bigger ui's. Like if there were a mode that scales all track heights to the height of the AU being displayed, so you could just scroll through the tracks with the leftmost bar and have everything accessible along the way.

bleep

I haven’t seen any adjustments, maybe something @giku_beepstreet would consider; variable height per track in this mode. Drum computer would need 2x to display it all (it would be too tiny to just scale it down). Edit: and sometimes, maybe a user just wants to display a central part, making room for other apps. So it would need to be user-defined. Maybe a hard thing to implement properly.

The current implementation works quite well, though.

horsetrainer

@skiphunt said:

@horsetrainer said:

@skiphunt said:

@Carnbot said:

@skiphunt said:
Is there a way to record the midi/controllers, etc. from LK loaded into Drambo instead of recording it in LK?

Yeah that works with Audioveek Midi route as well as above, route to a different Drambo channel and record the input in a different track.

Forgot to say thx! Midi route worked great 👍🏼

When I use Midi route from within Drambo, I can only use one instance of "Atom 1" at a time. More than that and I get all the Atoms sending their Midi to the last track at the same time. Regardless of the track input Ch. settings.

If I loopback the Atoms through AUM, I can run as many Atoms as I want on a single track. And they each send their midi only to the tracks that correspond with the Ch. number of each Atom's Midi Output module.

Can you please describe exactly what you mean by “loop back the Atoms through AUM”?

AUM can be configured to receive Midi from Standalone Drambo, then instantly "reflect" (loopback) that Midi.... back into Standalone Drambo's own external Midi input. Audiobus can also be set up as a Loopback App.

On my 2016 iPad running 13.7... In Standalone Drambo. When using Drambo to host "multiple" Midi sending AU's like Atom. If I want to simutainiously record the Midi sent out of each individual Atom to "its own Drambo track". The only method I know of at this time that does this. Is to setup a loopback.

With the midi passing through the loop back. If I send each Audio Unit's Midi OUT of Drambo on an individual Midi Channel... out to the loopback. I can then set each Track in Drambo to receive on a different Midi Channel.

This lets me run multiple Midi Audio Units, each sending out on a different Channel on Drambo Track 1, and then be able to set up multiple Drambo tracks each set to receive a different Midi Channel from the Loopback App.

The end result is I can have five Atoms on Track 1 each playing it's own midi pattern.
I can have five different Tracks each receiving midi from an individual Atom.
Each of those five tracks can play its own Atom controlled instrument.
If I put Drambo into record, it will record each of the five Atom patterns to its own Drambo sequencer track, all in one take, simutainiously.

I posted pics and a setup description on page 12 of this thread.
Here's the link:

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/892021#Comment_892021

If you can get the same results using Audioveek Midi route, please let me know. I have not been able to make Midi route work for multi Track recording the way I can using the Loopback technique.

echoopera

I just can't get enough of Drambo now that it can host all of my favorite pieces of kit

You can nab the file from the description on YouTube.

As always, thanks for watching and all of your encouragement.

Yodha

To avoid workarounds (Sunvox, Audiolayer, etc) to save your Drambo audio file simply add an empty pattern in the end of your project long enough to let all the effects fade away and use the song export feature.

skiphunt

@horsetrainer said:

@skiphunt said:

@horsetrainer said:

@skiphunt said:

@Carnbot said:

@skiphunt said:
Is there a way to record the midi/controllers, etc. from LK loaded into Drambo instead of recording it in LK?

Yeah that works with Audioveek Midi route as well as above, route to a different Drambo channel and record the input in a different track.

Forgot to say thx! Midi route worked great 👍🏼

When I use Midi route from within Drambo, I can only use one instance of "Atom 1" at a time. More than that and I get all the Atoms sending their Midi to the last track at the same time. Regardless of the track input Ch. settings.

If I loopback the Atoms through AUM, I can run as many Atoms as I want on a single track. And they each send their midi only to the tracks that correspond with the Ch. number of each Atom's Midi Output module.

Can you please describe exactly what you mean by “loop back the Atoms through AUM”?

AUM can be configured to receive Midi from Standalone Drambo, then instantly "reflect" (loopback) that Midi.... back into Standalone Drambo's own external Midi input. Audiobus can also be set up as a Loopback App.

On my 2016 iPad running 13.7... In Standalone Drambo. When using Drambo to host "multiple" Midi sending AU's like Atom. If I want to simutainiously record the Midi sent out of each individual Atom to "its own Drambo track". The only method I know of at this time that does this. Is to setup a loopback.

With the midi passing through the loop back. If I send each Audio Unit's Midi OUT of Drambo on an individual Midi Channel... out to the loopback. I can then set each Track in Drambo to receive on a different Midi Channel.

This lets me run multiple Midi Audio Units, each sending out on a different Channel on Drambo Track 1, and then be able to set up multiple Drambo tracks each set to receive a different Midi Channel from the Loopback App.

The end result is I can have five Atoms on Track 1 each playing it's own midi pattern.
I can have five different Tracks each receiving midi from an individual Atom.
Each of those five tracks can play its own Atom controlled instrument.
If I put Drambo into record, it will record each of the five Atom patterns to its own Drambo sequencer track, all in one take, simutainiously.

I posted pics and a setup description on page 12 of this thread.
Here's the link:

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/892021#Comment_892021

If you can get the same results using Audioveek Midi route, please let me know. I have not been able to make Midi route work for multi Track recording the way I can using the Loopback technique.

As far as Midi route... I was only using one instance of control from LK.

And yeah... I get it. I think I used to do close to the same thing with Auria Pro back when I used it more. I'm pretty sure this loopback method works well with apeMatrix too.

But, at the end of the day... I'm cool with just recording it all in LK. I was just curious how you were doing it for more nerdy reasons.

Thanks!

qryss

@echoopera iCloud tells me the file is unavailable..?

echoopera

@qryss said:
@echoopera iCloud tells me the file is unavailable..?

Whoops. Should be fixed now. Thanks for letting me know 👊🏼™️

w_iro

@reasOne said:
will it ever be possible to load drambo iaa into aum/audiobus/cubasis etc?

Bump!

auxmux

@w_iro said:

@reasOne said:
will it ever be possible to load drambo iaa into aum/audiobus/cubasis etc?

Bump!

Using AudioLayer as an audio fx is working great for recording.

w_iro

@auxmux said:

@w_iro said:

@reasOne said:
will it ever be possible to load drambo iaa into aum/audiobus/cubasis etc?

Bump!

Using AudioLayer as an audio fx is working great for recording.

well, what i mean (and @reasOne i guess) is that, can it will be possible to load Drambo Standalone on AUM like Patterning, Samprl etc.

it will be great for live performace.

supadom

@w_iro said:

@reasOne said:
will it ever be possible to load drambo iaa into aum/audiobus/cubasis etc?

Bump!

Drambo is not an IAA app and it is safe to say it never will become one since it is an old tech. I am in a reverse situation and would like Drambo to host IAA for me to be able to load Samplr in it but I think we will sooner see Samplr AU as opposed to Drambo hosting IAA since @giku_beepstreet doesn’t like the idea of maintaining a deprecated system. Rightfully so.

reasOne

i love that drambo is hosting au now, however i still find myself mostly hosting in AUM with drambo as the sequencer for audio unit, since i know how to control that set up better... multi out audio effects, switching scenes in my midi sequencer, recording the audio... however with just a couple updates i’ll def want to host in drambo a lot more. i’m glad it was released as i’d rather than waiting cuz it is def awesome! i just haven’t figured out how to get the same results yet and i know more things are being built!
i hope most for recording from au midi , master channel/ per channel recording and some way to multi out effects like bandit or bleass eq...
that said i’m writing a drambo project right now with drambo as the au host lolol it is amazing and the potential is crazy

drewinnit

Is there a way to send a Program Change message in Drambo?

Trying to build a liveset and want a way to change patches on AUv3 synths that have this feature

espiegel123

@supadom said:

@w_iro said:

@reasOne said:
will it ever be possible to load drambo iaa into aum/audiobus/cubasis etc?

Bump!

Drambo is not an IAA app and it is safe to say it never will become one since it is an old tech. I am in a reverse situation and would like Drambo to host IAA for me to be able to load Samplr in it but I think we will sooner see Samplr AU as opposed to Drambo hosting IAA since @giku_beepstreet doesn’t like the idea of maintaining a deprecated system. Rightfully so.

While technically this would make it an IAA app, he could make it AB-compatible and @Michael is planning on keeping AB working even when IAA goes away (which is likely still years away) since there will be a need for host-to-host protocols even after IAA does go away (since some apps will continue to make sense as hosts rather than plugins)

no1normal

Does Drambo do what Elektron calls Trigless Trigs? Eg. A step on the sequencer that is automation only and not connected to a note? (Excuse my clumsy explanation)

I’m trying to sequence AUV3 fx cc parameters in Drambos sequencer ( turnado’s macro knobs midi mapped to drambo) but can only get automation working when placed on a note.

Cheers

Edit. Figured it out, my issue was mainly my position of the automation. Obviously placing them between notes made them harder to hear.

All sorted...Drambo is awesome.

auxmux

Yes it does. @no1normal. Just enable plocks for all steps not just active steps.

no1normal

@auxmux said:
Yes it does. @no1normal. Just enable plocks for all steps not just active steps.

Thanks that’s what I was after. Just getting lost p locking Turnados Performer fader... instant madness

supadom

@espiegel123 said:

@supadom said:

@w_iro said:

@reasOne said:
will it ever be possible to load drambo iaa into aum/audiobus/cubasis etc?

Bump!

Drambo is not an IAA app and it is safe to say it never will become one since it is an old tech. I am in a reverse situation and would like Drambo to host IAA for me to be able to load Samplr in it but I think we will sooner see Samplr AU as opposed to Drambo hosting IAA since @giku_beepstreet doesn’t like the idea of maintaining a deprecated system. Rightfully so.

While technically this would make it an IAA app, he could make it AB-compatible and @Michael is planning on keeping AB working even when IAA goes away (which is likely still years away) since there will be a need for host-to-host protocols even after IAA does go away (since some apps will continue to make sense as hosts rather than plugins)

I don’t know the ins and outs but when I once mistakenly referred to Drambo standalone as IAA I was told by the dev that it has nothing to do with it.

rs2000

@drewinnit said:
Is there a way to send a Program Change message in Drambo?

Trying to build a liveset and want a way to change patches on AUv3 synths that have this feature

Thanks, just found a bug!

motmeister

@motmeister said:
Drambo's a beast, and the new AUV3 hosting capability is very cool. Since they can only be hosted in Drambo standalone, how do you get the audio out to other destinations, like AUM or Audiobus3?

It doesn't appear as an audio input in AB3. Only the Drambo AU version (which cannot host AUV3s) appears in AUM. Is there any kind of audio interop to a destination outside of Drambo? Even the Export Audio process in Drambo doesn't do a good job of recording trailing effects. I'll be trying IDAM to Logic Pro a bit later to see if Drambo sends to IDAM. But for now I don't understand how to use what you create with it in standalone.

With everything else to keep track of, Drambo hasn't been in my active list. I came back to it because of the AUV3 hosting, but that brought up my questions. I'm probably missing something, as usual.

Edit:
Yes, Drambo standalone's audio is sent over IDAM. That means I can record it in Logic Pro, but I can't see a way to do that in iPadOS.

I've spent more time with the audio question, and tried someone's suggestion of using AudioLayer. Since then, I gave MultiTrack a try, and unless I'm missing something, it's a much better option. With Drambo as a host, you can put MultiTrack anywhere on the track(s), including on the Master. So you can record any portion of the mix or all of it. But an almost better discovery is that if you put MultiTrack on its own Drambo track, then import (any audio) to Audio Pool, then drag the file from the pool to a MultiTrack lane, it adds a file player capability to Drambo. When I tried it with multiple MultiTracks in different places in the Drambo mix, it recorded on all of them, and since they all share the same Audio Pool, there's a tremendous amount of flexibility for overdubbing and playing files from external sources.

auxmux

@motmeister For multitrack recording, 4pockets recorder is a good option, but you're relegated to 16bit. I prefer to keep all my recordings at 24bit. If recorder supported 24bit, I would definitely use it.

motmeister

@auxmux said:
@motmeister For multitrack recording, 4pockets recorder is a good option, but you're relegated to 16bit. I prefer to keep all my recordings at 24bit. If recorder supported 24bit, I would definitely use it.

ya, that's an issue for sure.

drewinnit

@rs2000 said:

@drewinnit said:
Is there a way to send a Program Change message in Drambo?

Trying to build a liveset and want a way to change patches on AUv3 synths that have this feature

Thanks, just found a bug!

I thought so, glad you can confirm. I tried a few Mozaic scripts that work in AUM but not Drambo, wasn't sure why

rs2000

@drewinnit said:

@rs2000 said:

@drewinnit said:
Is there a way to send a Program Change message in Drambo?

Trying to build a liveset and want a way to change patches on AUv3 synths that have this feature

Thanks, just found a bug!

I thought so, glad you can confirm. I tried a few Mozaic scripts that work in AUM but not Drambo, wasn't sure why

Not all MIDI message types are forwarded currently, chances are that quite a number of mozaic and streambyter scripts don't work as expected. It's work in progress...

onerez

Ok..... so since I am just a cave troll and get so frustrated that I cant wrap my head around Drambo.... is there something that I am dong wrong with volume? I have compared just by ear loading the init patch of mood in AUM and Drambo and in Drambo I have to max the volume of both the track and the master and it still wont hit the volume of AUM?? See below. What am I doing wrong....? Obviously I dont want to hurt my ears, but it is soooooooooo quite.

reasOne

@onerez said:
Ok..... so since I am just a cave troll and get so frustrated that I cant wrap my head around Drambo.... is there something that I am dong wrong with volume? I have compared just by ear loading the init patch of mood in AUM and Drambo and in Drambo I have to max the volume of both the track and the master and it still wont hit the volume of AUM?? See below. What am I doing wrong....? Obviously I dont want to hurt my ears, but it is soooooooooo quite.

it’s def quite! i’ve noticed

auxmux

Automatic headroom I guess. 😀