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Leo has done a video on using multi-outs in Drambo here (apologies if already posted):
Ha cool idea that was fun. Yeah I was thinking there might be a way to use midi note generator to turn the x or y signal into note info but I guess the problem lies in there being no on/off value, just the movement of either axis
It works and it’s fun. Here’s a way a way of using the X axis to control the rate. I’ll have a look at how the Kaoss Pad works and try something more complex later. A module to pick scale modes and another XY controlling the filter would make a nice complete instrument.
@dvi
About the granular patch: This was one of my first experiments even before thee official Drambo release and at some point, I gave up. It is possible to do granular synthesis using a few Flexis, envelopes, crossfaders, random triggers etc. but if you want a really smooth result, it's better to rely on Spacecraft for example, now that D supports AUv3 plugins.
@dvi and @J_B
If you want the X or Y movement to trigger notes, there are several ways to achieve that too. You can use delays and feedback loops or just draw a graphic shaper pulse train that will generate gate pulses to trigger notes in any way you want.
@rs2000 Not very encouraging if you gave up! I’m not after anything remotely as sophisticated as Spacecraft (or Clouds for that matter), more like a glitchy processor to mangle stuff. I guess sequencing the record/clear buttons is not an option?
In any case, I’d not thought about using at least two Flexis at the same time, which could smooth out a couple of things I’m not happy about, and use dramboception instead of midi out/in. I hope to be able to share something on patchstorage soon. It could make a good combo with the Kaoss-style synth.
@dvi Glitchy and rough, grainy stuff is perfectly possible!
There's quite number of granular creations on patchstorage already btw!
Here's mine:
https://patchstorage.com/granular-synthesis-using-flexi/
Thanks for posting this!
However, this video is about using multiple "Audio outs" and sending them to deferent tracks.
What I was previously discussing was how I send multiple "Audio Unit Midi outs" to different tracks using a method that allows Midi to be recorded to Drambo's internal sequencer. All tracks at the same time.
The reason I use this method to route Midi, is for simplifying project storage. By using it I can use any number of Audio Units that do nothing but output patterns of Midi, and use them to compose complex tracks (with the inclusion of live play).
Once I'm happy with my song. I can use the Midi Loopback technique I previously discussed in other posts, to record all my Midi "work" into Drambo's main sequencer.
This allows me to save all my Midi work as a single all-in-one Drambo Project.
I can remove all of the Midi Audio Units I used to create the project, and Drambo's sequencer will retain all my work in one easy to save project file.
Who knew XY pads could be so fun! Thanks to @J_B and @rs2000 for an entertaining afternoon, here’s my attempt at a synthesizer based on XY pads (five of them!).
I came up with two (actually maybe just one) ways of using the XY pad to send gate information, by scrolling through 4-note rhythmic patterns. The other is actually to disable the pad and get the gates directly from the sequencer or the track’s pad (trig on). I might keep working on it to come up with a way to use the pad to create polyrhythmic sequences.
@rs2000 I have to confess I could not understand your suggestions for using delays, feedback, or pulse trains for gates. I’d be interested if you’d like to share more details.
https://patchstorage.com/wxys/
Five XY pads control a WT synthesizer with wavefolding. 1: Pitch and rhythm; 2: envelope; 3: wave shape;* 4: wavefolder; 5: randomization.
There are two ways to send gates:
In XY mode, X scrolls through eight rhythmic patterns
In SEQ mode the pad is inactive, and gate information is received through MIDI in (sequencer or track pad)
Y sends CV for pitch which is then quantized (seven modes can be chosen). Pitches can be sequenced with P-Locks to make melodies.
Work in progress: the envelope needs to be fine tuned to avoid clipping.
Comments much appreciated; enjoy!
*Requires the Waves IAP.
@dvi A simple example for triggering notes just by moving the XY cursor.
BTW, I like your patch!
The Graphic Shaper output is used to trigger the envelope.
I have asked earlier, why I could not make 16th notes on the sequencer.
I just found out that the reson is, that setting swing, beond 50% kills every second note.
Is this expected behaviour, and if yes, what is it for?
[EDIT] : I wrote Beep Street, and they quickly replyed, the conclusing beeing:
Could it be a voice issue? The Midi to CV module is set to 1 voice by default
@horsetrainer Love to see a video showing how to record midi iinto Drambo sequencer from AU midi sequencers is it a complicated operation?
Haven’t got the iap and I’ve limited all app purchases till after christmas but I look forward to trying it out. Quick video would be cool if you’re into that
Tried this out, works brilliantly. Lots of fun, ran the whole thing through a quantizer, a delay and a mirack fx AU and it got crazy. Wish I understood why it works but it definitely does. The most useable notes come from the upper right quadrant of the XY. Not sure how to scale the output to make the whole pad useable but I’m sure it’s possible. Thanks for the tip. I tried to figure out recording the XY to the sequencer or p locking it but failed. Still though tons of fun as it is
Did you see al the pictures I posted on page 12 of this thread?
I need a better system for making videos. I currently use Vimeo. I screen record the iPad, edit the video length on the iPad, then email the video to my mac. The problem is my mail server only accepts 20mb attachments.
I could use iCloud but my 10 Y/O mac Mini want's to try to delete everything on my iCloud account every time I try to turn iCloud off.
I need a video editor for the iPad that lets me save to different file formats. Then I need to figure out how to post videos from the iPad to Vimeo. But I'd rather spend the money on music Apps.
Wish I was overall more up to date with modern media.
I still use a flip phone.
I should start an off Topic thread for procrastinators who need to vent about all the stuff they need to get done that never seems to get done.
To answer your question @Jumpercollins , it's not hard. it's really easy, and fast.
@rs2000
Guess what I built??
I have a full functional Jupiter 8 inspired prototype with ARP, Unisono Mode, Poly Mode, Osc Sync, Cross Mod, and LFO delay.
AND it collapses down to a very reasonably sized instrument rack.
Just a few more tweaks and I'll put it up on patch storage.
I'd like you to look it over and see if you can make it better (if that interests you).
I figure having a template design to start with, then improving it, is the best way to actually make this thing exist after talking about it since April.
That's great!
To describe in in Electalk: The XY pad outputs emit "voltages" between -1 and 1 "Volt".
The Gate inout of an ENV module triggers at each negative-to-positive signal transition so if I make sure that such voltage changes are drawn into the Graphic Shaper, these will be able to generate a valid trigger signal.
If you also want to give the Y axis this functionality, all you have to do is copy the same block of modules behind the XY pad to the end of my example rack, connect the second Graphic Shaper to the Y output and add a mixer and connect both audio signals to it so you can hear both blocks.
If you save your pulse train sketched inside the Graphuc Shaper as a new Graphic Shaper preset, you don't have to draw it ever again.
Wow! That's exciting news!!
I wondered if it was ever going to happen 😉
Yes, count me in, I'm happy to have a look and maybe do a few tweaks 😃👍🏼
Good timing, now that TAL software have responded that they won't make their new J-8 available on iOS for now.
Should'nt Drambo been ´App Of The Year´if Apple understand how fuckin' advanced and deep this is??
It seems that the possibilities in Drambo is endlessssss... WOW!
This Drambo in a Drambo thing is mind blowing... a Revolution.. sharing a Drambo sequence to add to a project, etc, etc, etc, so many possibilities... And just waiting for GR-16 Auv3 to come to this party now...
Are desktops just for mixing now?
Genius...
Thanks.
Yeah man. My new thing is making Ableton style drums racks and a midi sequence library out of AU Drambo instances saved to instrument and midi racks. That way presets (1 voice per track drum kits, midi loops) are hot swappable with the rack arrow buttons. Huge, multi track projects now fit in a single module, on a single track. Freaking brilliant.
@drewinnit : I have tried upping the voicecount, but that does not change anything.
For anyone who wants to test this, it’s really easy to replicate, just add notes to all 16 steps and change swing to 50 or more.
[EDIT] : I wrote Beep Street, and they quickly replyed, the conclusion beeing:
There’s also a strum module that allows for strumming chords if that’s your thing
🤦🏽♂️ Of course! Brilliant! That’s a great drambo lesson right there.
Thanks! Do you mind if I integrate your solution into it?
Apologies for that. I’ll upload a vanilla version for you to try later today. Easier and more useful than just a video imo.
And good call on the limited purchases—I’m on the same train.
Not at all, go ahead! 👍🏼
And there's yet another method available for chord entry, one that I've literally been fighting for:
Enable [EDIT] (next to the KEYS and STEP buttons), hold any sequencer step and add notes one-by-one on the screen keyboard. Or on your MIDI keyboard. One day, the step buttons will be mappable too so you can write melodic and chord sequences completely on hardware.
I’m sure that someone has already brought this up, but please add “Export Pattern as Stems” to Drambo.
Until Drambo has a pattern editor I’m exporting patterns as stems by soloing them then importing the stems in Blocs Wave to create packs for Launchpad.
By the way, Blocs Wave is great for creating an archive of stems for inspiration or repurposing, see @hennythabizness clip about how he uses Blocs Wave (thank you Henny for sharing your trade secrets):
Then I trigger everything in Launchpad with my Novation Launchpad Mini. Great fun, but it would be nice to have “Export Pattern as Stems” option to save time in Drambo, which I figure is faster to implement then a pattern editor.
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