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Drambo is an AU host now / the new Drambo mega thread

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  • @onerez said:
    Ok..... so since I am just a cave troll and get so frustrated that I cant wrap my head around Drambo.... is there something that I am dong wrong with volume? I have compared just by ear loading the init patch of mood in AUM and Drambo and in Drambo I have to max the volume of both the track and the master and it still wont hit the volume of AUM?? See below. What am I doing wrong....? Obviously I dont want to hurt my ears, but it is soooooooooo quite.

    I've run across a couple of AU's with lower than expected audio output. In the Drambo Processor menu there's an "AMP Module".

    Placing an AMP after the Audio Unit like thus: Audio Unit---> AMP---> Track output / Can provide enough signal boost to make the Audio Unit more usable.

  • @horsetrainer .... I get that. But what confuses me is that same patch from mood in AUM is almost twice as loud at default. I appreciate you taking the time to point that out. I just am trying to understand why this is happening?

  • @onerez said:
    @horsetrainer .... I get that. But what confuses me is that same patch from mood in AUM is almost twice as loud at default. I appreciate you taking the time to point that out. I just am trying to understand why this is happening?

    I don't see that anyone has listed this as a known issue on the Drambo forum.

    I understand "its not right", but I personally consider it a minor issue given that Drambo's new AU hosting is bound to have bugs that need to be ironed out.

    Korg Module Pro is another AU that outputs at a very low audio level (for me). But putting an AMP after it fixes it, so at least it's usable.

    If I was to make a guess at why it's happening... I'd guess that AUM has a programed-in "Normalizer" that assures audio levels remain in parity to one another for uniformity purposes.

    I picked up the Amazing Noises Limiter during the last sale. It has a normalizer function. I connected it to Korg Module Pro in Drambo, and it brought up the volume to a normal level. Though I had to increase the default "Release level" to get it to function properly.

    So that's my guess. I'll speculate that AUM has a built in Normalizer, and Drambo doesn't.... Yet.

  • @horsetrainer said:

    So that's my guess. I'll speculate that AUM has a built in Normalizer, and Drambo doesn't.... Yet.

    Yes that was my thought.... anyway like you said its an easy fix. I like to have something besides the fader for gain staging anyway. Thanks @horsetrainer

  • @onerez said:

    @horsetrainer said:

    So that's my guess. I'll speculate that AUM has a built in Normalizer, and Drambo doesn't.... Yet.

    Yes that was my thought.... anyway like you said its an easy fix. I like to have something besides the fader for gain staging anyway. Thanks @horsetrainer

    Note: Regarding the Amazing Noises Limiter. As a normalizer it will alter certain sounds that taper off over time like a piano patch, by preventing the sound from tapering off as expected.

    So it's not a perfect solution. But I do like the effect it has on the Korg Module Piano. I think it makes it sound better.

    Perhaps there are better Normalizers for your purposes?

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  • edited December 2020

    you can automate drumcomputer with simple notes....

  • @d4d0ug said:
    Apologies if this has already been covered... is 16 the maximum / limit for mappable parameters on a hosted AUv3 ?

    I got this far last night and wanted to add more, no errors or feedback came up, just no more mapping....

    16 is a limit for now, you can ask giku to increase it 😊

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  • is it possible to set up multi out in drambo for the motion eq app by bleass? preferably within the same rack

  • @reasOne said:
    is it possible to set up multi out in drambo for the motion eq app by bleass? preferably within the same rack

    There's a problem with multi-out effects (not instruments), Giku is aware of it. Once that's solved, you'll definitely be able to do it in the same way it's done for instruments:

  • edited December 2020

    @reasOne said:
    is it possible to set up multi out in drambo for the motion eq app by bleass? preferably within the same rack

    Multiout AU processors haven't been working for me. I only tried it with Scatterbrain and FAC Bandit, but I got no sound from the individual outs, just the master out. Guessing its a bug and will be fixed soon.

  • @NoiseFloored @aleyas thanks guys! i figured it was either my limited knowledge or just more implemented yet! that’s great that it’s in progress!

  • edited December 2020

    @reasOne said:
    @NoiseFloored @aleyas thanks guys! i figured it was either my limited knowledge or just more implemented yet! that’s great that it’s in progress!

    Why even use an audio unit when Drambo has everything on board?
    Lots of LFOs and modulators, EQs, filters, synchronized speeds etc etc... 😉

  • Ok, so super dumb question (sorry sorry) I should be able to P-Lock any controls on an AUV synth I put in here right? I can’t seem to get it to work.

    With a Drambo oscillator I hold the step, it says P lock in the corner, I twist the knob and voila.

    With kronekr or Ruismaker noir or anything else I try, I hold the step, it says p lock in the corner, i twist the knob...and it changes that parameter for the whole pattern.

    I know there is something I am doing wrong. Maybe there should be a dumb questions thread just for Drambo..

  • Map knob in plug-in ui.
    P-lock twist mapped knob in drambo ui.

    Watch soundformore tutorial on this.

  • gotcha thanks

    @bleep said:
    Map knob in plug-in ui.
    P-lock twist mapped knob in drambo ui.

    Watch soundformore tutorial on this.

  • is there a way to copy everything on one track and copy it to the next track?

  • @eross said:
    is there a way to copy everything on one track and copy it to the next track?

    For modules you can duplicate the track in the Main channel by holding the header until the track module turns green, then tap Copy. You can then insert another track module and hit Paste. You can also copy all the modules contained in a track but holding the header in its first module and then dragging to the right until you select all modules. Then you hit Copy and paste it in the new track.

    Sequencer steps, AFAIK, need to be copied separately, with the Edit button, selecting the steps and then hitting Copy where the crossfader is usually shown. Then you hit Paste in the new track.

  • @eross - to add to what Noisefloored said - you can also save your sundry collection of track modules as a file preset. So neat.

  • I don’t know how difficult this would be to implement, but it’d be really cool to be able to map AU Drambo parameters in standalone Drambo. That way we’d be able to modulate parameters that we wouldn’t normally be able to modulate in just standalone itself. Unless there already is a way and I’m just missing something...

  • @sambo said:
    @eross - to add to what Noisefloored said - you can also save your sundry collection of track modules as a file preset. So neat.

    Oh yes, for module reusability definitely go for instrument/effect racks, they're just the best

  • @itsaghost said:
    I don’t know how difficult this would be to implement, but it’d be really cool to be able to map AU Drambo parameters in standalone Drambo. That way we’d be able to modulate parameters that we wouldn’t normally be able to modulate in just standalone itself. Unless there already is a way and I’m just missing something...

    Drambo AU doesn't expose any parameters, but you can use MIDI CC like this:

    This square wave LFO makes the Trig button in the hosted Drambo AU to go on and off.

  • @itsaghost said:
    I don’t know how difficult this would be to implement, but it’d be really cool to be able to map AU Drambo parameters in standalone Drambo. That way we’d be able to modulate parameters that we wouldn’t normally be able to modulate in just standalone itself. Unless there already is a way and I’m just missing something...

    You can always go the MIDI automation route.

  • @itsaghost - or just run AUM alongside Drambo standalone, but then route midi cc stuff (could be another Drambo inside AUM) from AUM to Drambo standalone and then you can automate mutes etc; there. Sounds more complex to describe than it is to actually do. The only issue you can't see what the Drambo in AUM is doing at the same time as the standalone Drambo...

  • @rs2000 said:

    @reasOne said:
    @NoiseFloored @aleyas thanks guys! i figured it was either my limited knowledge or just more implemented yet! that’s great that it’s in progress!

    Why even use an audio unit when Drambo has everything on board?
    Lots of LFOs and modulators, EQs, filters, synchronized speeds etc etc... 😉

    time! i worked 65 hours this week and just wana jam not figure out stuff lol
    i mean id like to figure it out but slapping an auv3 in gets me there faster these days

  • @NoiseFloored said:

    @itsaghost said:
    I don’t know how difficult this would be to implement, but it’d be really cool to be able to map AU Drambo parameters in standalone Drambo. That way we’d be able to modulate parameters that we wouldn’t normally be able to modulate in just standalone itself. Unless there already is a way and I’m just missing something...

    Drambo AU doesn't expose any parameters, but you can use MIDI CC like this:

    This square wave LFO makes the Trig button in the hosted Drambo AU to go on and off.

    I’ll try that out, thanks! Might also write the dev though and request it too because that would make things so convenient

    @sambo - I’m not too familiar with midi routing between apps (or midi routing in general 😝 which is why I love the way Drambo handles modulating AU parameters) but do all apps talk to each other with midi on their own? Or do I need to connect them somehow?

  • @reasOne said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @reasOne said:
    @NoiseFloored @aleyas thanks guys! i figured it was either my limited knowledge or just more implemented yet! that’s great that it’s in progress!

    Why even use an audio unit when Drambo has everything on board?
    Lots of LFOs and modulators, EQs, filters, synchronized speeds etc etc... 😉

    time! i worked 65 hours this week and just wana jam not figure out stuff lol
    i mean id like to figure it out but slapping an auv3 in gets me there faster these days

    That's a valid point! Enjoy the jam.

  • I’m building a little granular processor using Flexi and the stochastic gate generator, something like Mutable Clouds (which is infinitely better than what I can manage but, you know, this one is mine). The key for it to work as a processor is a buffer which is constantly rewriting itself (it works well enough as “Freeze” mode). I figured a combination of pulse LFOs can do the trick of recording and clearing the buffer in flexi, but the Rec and Clear buttons can’t be automated or recorded as P-Locks. The closest thing I’ve managed is to midi map them to cc and send the midi out and back into drambo using AUM. It’s an ugly hack but it’s almost getting me there. Any suggestions for a cleaner solution?

  • Had an idea, it possible to have XY pad send midi notes? Could then blast it through the quantizer and you’d have a kaoss pad rack

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