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Granted, yes, window management on MacOS is not good. But I'm not sure Apple is the only one that can fix it. For example, Yabai (mentioned earlier in this thread, I think) implements decent window management on MacOS. Not as good as something like i3wm on Linux, but much better than what MacOS ships with.
100% this. Well, 99% anyway. I do wish Finder could do dual-panes without any 3rd party solutions.
I still don't at all see why this is difficult for you. This is something I must do literally hundreds of times a day in order to run things in different pairings to meet the task at hand. The simplest way is to use Mission Control to drag the window you want to the space you want it on.
To show the stock behavior, I stopped Yabai, and in this screenshot I have my terminal interleaved between two instances of Edge.
Of course I'm normally running Yabai so I have BSP tiling which lets me stack windows or zoom a specific window to the parent partition or to the full screen, but even the out-of-the-box MacOS window management is fine for running side by side windows of different apps, just with more manual fidgeting to set sizing.
In the super early days of MacOS X when it shipped with X11 I compiled Worker for it
http://www.boomerangsworld.de/cms/worker/index.html (I think it still compiles ok if all dependencies are met).
Midnight Command was also something that was fun.
Nowadays I'm just lazy and use Smart Folders in Finder to keep track of all the files and file-types no matter where they are...
In other words: Use multiple "desktops" (on Mac sometimes called "Spaces"). You may have terminal open with six terminal windows and Safari open with three Safari windows on your main Desktop. But you can drag one terminal window to a Desktop 2 and one Safari window to Desktop 2 and then position them side by side on Desktop 2. Use Mission Control (which you can access by pressing F3) to do this:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204100
This is what I'm talking about. Having a window on all spaces isn't default behavior so this is a problem of your own creation. Using Mission Control to move Windows as desired takes fractions of a second, there's nothing complicated or tedious about it. You do you, though.
Not sure here but... If you want to return a minimized/hidden app to the foreground (like after CMD+OPT+H+M) you can CMD+Tab...keep holding CMD...Tab over to the app you want to restore...Then hit the OPT key...finally release CMD.
You'd die for it, but figuring out how to build Yabai from source is too far?
Hi @tja - you have me confused with Samu in several recent posts here.
I have nothing to contribute here, though I do enjoy the soap opera.
No problemo. I can think of worse people to be confused with.
MacPorts is an external package repository. I have no idea who maintains that. The Yabai dev maintains the Homebrew package, which works, or compiling from source is trivial. The main/master branch works fine on 12.1
I understand, getting frustrated and ranting on ABF takes time.
Same here! Sitting here with my popcorn and watching it all enjoying my newly discovered Pop_Shell bliss! (anyone who uses i3 should check Pop Shell out, it's a tiling window manager extension for GNOME and to me combines the best of keyboard and mouse worlds). Also @tja would love it 😁
Fair enough, you're right. I was trying to poke fun but that hardly ever conveys well on the Internet.
What I was trying to imply is that this thread has a recurring pattern of you getting frustrated with some MacOS behavior and expressing incredulity about how stupid it is and how Apple should fix it. Frequently, it's solved by just learning the MacOS way of things, and when it's not as simple you find ways to complain about the solutions offered. So maybe try to relax and not focus on the negative so much? Anyway, I hope you're well otherwise and that this isn't displacement from larger issues.
Except, as I and others have said, it is already possible in MacOS using utilities like Yabai. If you don't like the idea of Yabai, Amethyst might be an option for you. I think Yabai is more full featured, but Amethyst probably provides what you want and is easier to install:
https://ianyh.com/amethyst/
This, I use three finger swiping constantly and find it incredibly fluid.
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Control + Left/Right arrow switch between spaces/desktops same as the three finger swipe on a trackpad.
(Check the Mission Control shortcuts under Keyboard -> Shortcuts).
Yes this works too. I have my iMac setup to use the trackpad and then my Mini is setup to use the keyboard so I can do that with screen sharing on my iMac. It works well either way.