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O.T.: An extraordinarily dark day in American history...
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He had his chance and refused to change his stance, so he’s only got himself to blame.
Trump will go to Parler who will love him for the revenue. I’m sorry for the fear and desecration, but the unrepelled “Patriots” invading the Capitol was the best thing that could have happened to denude Trump and his followers. Now we have bans, impeachment, Republican self implosion and no “Martyrs for Trump”.
In addition, the true power wielders have seen their Frankenstein threaten their own interests. Everyone but the kool aid diehards and supremacists will sideline him. He will twist and rail as the hammer of prosecutions and debt beat him into a piece of desiccated, rotten meat... not fit for a DOG to eat.
Well Mike, there is a little hope:
"Google has suspended Parler from the Play Store. The app is no longer on the store.
Here is the full statement, which was shared with The Verge:
In order to protect user safety on Google Play, our longstanding policies require that apps displaying user-generated content have moderation policies and enforcement that removes egregious content like posts that incite violence. All developers agree to these terms and we have reminded Parler of this clear policy in recent months. We’re aware of continued posting in the Parler app that seeks to incite ongoing violence in the US. We recognize that there can be reasonable debate about content policies and that it can be difficult for apps to immediately remove all violative content, but for us to distribute an app through Google Play, we do require that apps implement robust moderation for egregious content. In light of this ongoing and urgent public safety threat, we are suspending the app’s listings from the Play Store until it addresses these issues."
Apple is also reportedly considering pulling the app.
Of course this is just a game of Whack-A-Mole. Other sites will pop-up like weeds do every Spring.
Can I ask when Twitter became the "official source for what's happening"? Who was the "official" who gave them that title?
Rush Limbaugh just deactivated his Twitter account too (presumably a petulant response to Trump’s being suspended), so the air there must seem much cleaner now.
Not sure. I know he’s very sick, but have no clue if there’s an expectation of him having a certain amount of time.
What a long winded pile of malarkey.
Exactly the reaction one can expect to get from a silly borderline communist thinker.
I do live in one of those " modern-day Canada or Norway" countries and believe me it is hard to get anywhere in life being taxed six ways to the middle to help pay for sub par public health care while the socialist government lines the pockets of their crony upper class supporters and corporations. The public health care system used to be pretty good but now is over run into the ground by over crowding and inept and corrupt administration.
I could go on and on but I will save my breath trying to talk sense to children is a waste of time. Fell free to fire back with a whole pile of your bogus insults while I feel free to block this thread.
It's time make some music while the west is still a semi free place to live. It might not last much longer.
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As your God Donnie would tell you:
So unfair!
So sad!
So very, very unfair!
Suck it up, SNOWFLAKE! 🤗
No matter what will happen to Trump next, the national terrorists will remain.
It seems to me that Trump has brought out what had been cooking for a long time anyway by telling them exactly what they wanted to hear and seemingly taking care of their fears.
I was hearing neighbors talking about civil war at the time that the ACA was being implemented, and everyone was talking about guns, and buying ammunition before it was banned, etc. This is definitely not a recent thing, and I'm sure it was present in the south before I moved here.
, did you listen to the speech of Biden’s new DOJ appointees? Specifically Ms Gupta? Man o man...I wouldn’t want to be a white supremacist. She has a huge chubby for em since her family immigrated and were harassed by them. She said it shaped her drive and path to dedicate her life and career to Justice.👀😬
Hopefully she will kick some ass and take names.
This extremist shit has got to stop on the left, and most definitely on the right!
I'm not supporting sides here, but I will say one thing...I'm very interested to see how people are so easy with having censorship enacted. A slippery slope indeed...if I don't agree with you then you should be censored, silenced and eradicated? By whom exactly? A company that is one of the main lines of communication for people throughout the world. Sounds like a democracy to me. What's next? If you don't agree with my art then that should be censored, silenced and eradicated as well?
The revolution will never be televised....
Doesn't that all come down to ... lack of quality education?
Trump wasn’t censored. He repeatedly (for years) violated the terms of service he and every other user signs to use the service. He was using his access to repeatedly spread lies (and recently egregious lies whose goal was to get people to believe the election was stolen and encourage them to take action). Despite ample warnings (which would have had you or me suspended in an instant) he continued..and his communications resulted in violence ...at which time the services finally enforced the terms of the contract he had signed. I have to imagine that those services started to worry that allowing him to violate the contract might incur liability to them for the crimes committed as the result of allowing the violations.
Twitter, Facebook, et al are private companies and entitled to their own rules. Trump could call a press conference. He could issue press releases. His first amendment rights have not been violated.
No individual has a right to demand that whatever they say be published by private companies.
I dare say that if you went to Mar A Lago and started shouting out lies about Trump (or even the truth), you would be kicked out in an instant.
If Trump didn’t want to get booted, he could have refrained from spreading egregious lies (whose intent, it must be mentioned, were malicious).
I wonder how much money they all spent on all of that MAGA merchandise? Trump has to love that. No worries though, it’s all made in the USA from all of the manufacturing jobs he’s created...
I have played gigs at his golf club here in NJ many times- I can tell you that a large part of the staff there are the people he claims to not want in the country (meaning those not born here).
And some of my band mates played a jazz trio gig there while he was present (for his transition meetings) and were warned by the panicking manager not to play “That kind of music because it’s exactly what Mr. Trump can’t stand. He said he can’t think when there’s jazz playing.” So the sax, guitar, and upright bass “wallpaper” jazz trio was ordered not to play any jazz. Gotta love it. They said his sense of humor with his club members was, uh, interesting. He hasn’t been there when I’ve played there, thankfully, because they had to get there many hours early to gave all of their equipment searched by secret service.
Oh, and @LinearLineman , denude is such a great word. Thanks for using it.
I take some of your points, others I believe you are incorrect about. Glenn Loury may be somewhat on the right, he's an economist, McWhorter describes himself as "a cranky liberal democrat". Coleman was definitely on the left when younger, but has described himself as something like politically non binary, or something to that effect.
If you're going to complain about sites that categorise Vox as left leaning, I suppose you'll also complain about them calling Fox Right? Maybe not.
Brett Weinstein makes a point of associating with reasonable people on the right and the left. He went on Fox news because left leaning media won't run stories counter to the approved narrative, but I seem to recall him saying (actually it might have been someone else) that he wouldn't do that anymore as it ended up being counter productive. It might have been John McWhorter actually.
Anyway, it's not my job to support him or change your mind.
I'd never heard of him but apparently he's a far right guy. Not that interested in opinions of the far right. I didn't learn it from him.
There is obviously a lot of passion and emotion running around the place at the moment. I'm just putting a question out there which I think is a fair enough point. @Max23 you just helped me make my point so, thank you for your response.
@espiegel123 I get the private company thing. That is what I'm trying to say through all of this. Our communications and information have been nicely siphoned into very narrow channels over the last 10 - 20 years. Our communications are in the hands of private companies who can and do manipulate the manner in which we receive information and the quality of that information.
All I'm saying is that in the middle of all this noise and reactionary commentary is that we need to be very careful that we don't let ourselves get distracted. The history of mistreatment of humans on this planet is a long one. Slavery has many forms. The media have agendas of their own and sometimes the way things are portrayed aren't devoid of bias. This is not just unique to the USA.
@CapnWillie I wasn't trying to incite a riot of my own here and I understand your reaction. There is a lot of history that comes into this moment, I get that. It is my hope that this world finds a future of peace and prosperity for all where human life is treated for the wonder that it is and that we all can get along in harmony, health and happiness. That is my wish for everyone at this time.
@CapnWillie im sorry to hear about the hurt you are feeling right now. I too have had bad experiences with cops, and can relate on some level.
sending you hope and letting you know people care, and wishing you the best healing from your past trauma and this current bullshit.
As you mentioned in response to @shinyisshiny it would be nice if the rest of the world was like ABF as it would be quite the incredible place.
Peace to all.
The left and the dem sponsored thugs and brown shirts riot for the entire summer, burning down buildings, declaring autonomous zones, plundering business across the entire country, murdering, committing arson, attacking police stations, attacking federal buildings and that is described as "peaceful protests" by the laughable left wing media, while they stand there reporting while entire buildings are ablaze and are burning down behind them, LOL. Many dem politicians release statements directly supporting the thugs and violent terrorists. That's perfectly fine apparently. Nothing to see here. No need to ban any of those nice people. No need for anybody to get outraged.
A few people on the right hold a single protest one day that is mostly peaceful and all of a sudden it's the worst thing ever to happen, LOL. Everybody on the right should be banned. Let's purge them all, LOL. They're dangerous, says the people who support far more dangerous people.
They're nazis and fascists, etc, says certain ignorant people on the left. That's real rich coming from the side that is literally acting like the fascists and totalitarian communists with their love of censorship and their desire to suppress the opinions of those that they disagree with.
The future doesn't look too bright for the left or the dems, because history has always shown that things will end up very badly for those who act like fascists.
He has plenty options to spew his lies and hate speech, Fux News for instance.
Trump supporters say being told to wear a mask is an infringement to their civil liberties.
BLM say wearing a police officers knee on your neck is an infringement to their civil liberties.
One is an inconvenience, the other murder. The two aren’t comparable.
this is a real problem. And one that we all should not let happen. We should, as best as we can, give other opinions enough space and respect.
Dividing the people into adversely groups is good for nobody. It is bad even for the rich class.