Atom | Piano Roll 2 is now available

reasOne

@MrBlaschke said:

@reasOne said:
Has anyone been able to change the auv3 background color to black thru a script yet?
I looked at it but was afraid to mess with the controls LOL

Doable - but it involves setting other colors. Because black icons against black background is hardly operatable

How about just trying or give a color-set description you want and we‘ll do it?

I would recommend choosing a similar color as a background, change the other colors and then switch to black to not loose the ability to operate this thing Or you exactly know which button does what

Now that is dark!! Haha i like it
I was referring the auv3 icon background color in the AUM node. That’s what i was hoping could be done.
But also i think that would look great as well with the right colors!

MrBlaschke

@reasOne said:
Now that is dark!! Haha i like it
I was referring the auv3 icon background color in the AUM node. That’s what i was hoping could be done.
But also i think that would look great as well with the right colors!

I see Misunderstanding. Closest to black is predefined color 1 or 5 i guess. Probably 8. But none is black.

wim

@zah said:
How do I create a gap (or a slight overlay) between a bunch of selected quantized notes?

Bake in the quantize, then turn quantize off and make your adjustments to the note length?

tk32

Two quick methods for you both, @zah and @wim

1. Turn off grid snap and resize the group manually from the right edge ... OR...
2. Apply quantise with 'note durations' enabled and set it to the next size down in grid divisions.

wim

Styling question:

I would like to see if I can change the velocity bar on sequence notes so that rather than changing length, it appears as a horizontal line across the whole note, but is positioned vertically based on the velocity.

Is possible?

blueveek

@wim said:
Styling question:

I would like to see if I can change the velocity bar on sequence notes so that rather than changing length, it appears as a horizontal line across the whole note, but is positioned vertically based on the velocity.

Is possible?

Yes! I’ll send you an example.

As an aside, this is the “advanced” kind of theming. I totally need to document more of it. I just wanted to clarify that for most simple use-cases, the preferred way to theme is to modify the provided variables. Obviously, what you’re aiming for is not a “simple use-case”, so your approach is correct, but wanted to make that clear if it wasn’t.

wim

Thanks - just kickin' the tires.
That's the problem with opening stuff up to geeks.

blueveek

@wim said:
Thanks - just kickin' the tires.
That's the problem with opening stuff up to geeks.

kinkujin

Ok, sorry for not having read through the 40 pages yet but a quick question that @blueveek or others may answer, if you please ...
My use case is to record external synths (and internal ios synths of course!) into AUM, with the aide of Atom. I wish to record midi, edit if necessary, send back to external and record in AUM. Multi channel midi.

Can this be done? If so, a short explanation or tutorial would be alot to ask, but a great help.

I'm using a Presonus iTwo interface or a Focusrite iTrack dock. Thanks!!

blueveek

@kinkujin said:
Ok, sorry for not having read through the 40 pages yet but a quick question that @blueveek or others may answer, if you please ...
My use case is to record external synths (and internal ios synths of course!) into AUM, with the aide of Atom. I wish to record midi, edit if necessary, send back to external and record in AUM. Multi channel midi.

Can this be done? If so, a short explanation or tutorial would be alot to ask, but a great help.

I'm using a Presonus iTwo interface or a Focusrite iTrack dock. Thanks!!

Do you want to record multiple midi channels at the same time and preserve each note's channel? If so, you'll need multiple clips, one for each channel.

If you want to record from multiple midi channels, and funnel them into a set of output channels? Then that is possible, all from within a single clip.

There's a feature request logged about supporting the former use-case.

kinkujin

@blueveek said:

@kinkujin said:
Ok, sorry for not having read through the 40 pages yet but a quick question that @blueveek or others may answer, if you please ...
My use case is to record external synths (and internal ios synths of course!) into AUM, with the aide of Atom. I wish to record midi, edit if necessary, send back to external and record in AUM. Multi channel midi.

Can this be done? If so, a short explanation or tutorial would be alot to ask, but a great help.

I'm using a Presonus iTwo interface or a Focusrite iTrack dock. Thanks!!

Do you want to record multiple midi channels at the same time and preserve each note's channel? If so, you'll need multiple clips, one for each channel.

If you want to record from multiple midi channels, and funnel them into a set of output channels? Then that is possible, all from within a single clip.

There's a feature request logged about supporting the former use-case.

@blueveek Thanks that was fast!

Ummm, first case I'd like to record from one synth - at a time - into AUM.
Second case, I would like to send a performance create on external Korg Electribe 2 (several channels) at once into AUM, possible?

I'm mostly a one synth at a time guy but the 2nd option would open up huge worlds to me. Complex to set up with Atom and AUM?

blueveek

@kinkujin said:

@blueveek said:

@kinkujin said:
Ok, sorry for not having read through the 40 pages yet but a quick question that @blueveek or others may answer, if you please ...
My use case is to record external synths (and internal ios synths of course!) into AUM, with the aide of Atom. I wish to record midi, edit if necessary, send back to external and record in AUM. Multi channel midi.

Can this be done? If so, a short explanation or tutorial would be alot to ask, but a great help.

I'm using a Presonus iTwo interface or a Focusrite iTrack dock. Thanks!!

Do you want to record multiple midi channels at the same time and preserve each note's channel? If so, you'll need multiple clips, one for each channel.

If you want to record from multiple midi channels, and funnel them into a set of output channels? Then that is possible, all from within a single clip.

There's a feature request logged about supporting the former use-case.

@blueveek Thanks that was fast!

Ummm, first case I'd like to record from one synth - at a time - into AUM.
Second case, I would like to send a performance create on external Korg Electribe 2 (several channels) at once into AUM, possible?

I'm mostly a one synth at a time guy but the 2nd option would open up huge worlds to me. Complex to set up with Atom and AUM?

From what you're describing, all of this is possible. Just like with any other project in AUM (or other DAWs), you just need to be careful with your routing. If this is your first time using AUM or routing MIDI things in general, expect a learning curve. If not, then you'll be fine!

kinkujin

@blueveek said:

@kinkujin said:

@blueveek said:

@kinkujin said:
Ok, sorry for not having read through the 40 pages yet but a quick question that @blueveek or others may answer, if you please ...
My use case is to record external synths (and internal ios synths of course!) into AUM, with the aide of Atom. I wish to record midi, edit if necessary, send back to external and record in AUM. Multi channel midi.

Can this be done? If so, a short explanation or tutorial would be alot to ask, but a great help.

I'm using a Presonus iTwo interface or a Focusrite iTrack dock. Thanks!!

Do you want to record multiple midi channels at the same time and preserve each note's channel? If so, you'll need multiple clips, one for each channel.

If you want to record from multiple midi channels, and funnel them into a set of output channels? Then that is possible, all from within a single clip.

There's a feature request logged about supporting the former use-case.

@blueveek Thanks that was fast!

Ummm, first case I'd like to record from one synth - at a time - into AUM.
Second case, I would like to send a performance create on external Korg Electribe 2 (several channels) at once into AUM, possible?

I'm mostly a one synth at a time guy but the 2nd option would open up huge worlds to me. Complex to set up with Atom and AUM?

From what you're describing, all of this is possible. Just like with any other project in AUM (or other DAWs), you just need to be careful with your routing. If this is your first time using AUM or routing MIDI things in general, expect a learning curve. If not, then you'll be fine!

Very good and that is all I needed to know. I just didn't want to dig and dig only to find out that it isn't possible. Thanks!

blueveek

@kinkujin said:

@blueveek said:

@kinkujin said:

@blueveek said:

@kinkujin said:
Ok, sorry for not having read through the 40 pages yet but a quick question that @blueveek or others may answer, if you please ...
My use case is to record external synths (and internal ios synths of course!) into AUM, with the aide of Atom. I wish to record midi, edit if necessary, send back to external and record in AUM. Multi channel midi.

Can this be done? If so, a short explanation or tutorial would be alot to ask, but a great help.

I'm using a Presonus iTwo interface or a Focusrite iTrack dock. Thanks!!

Do you want to record multiple midi channels at the same time and preserve each note's channel? If so, you'll need multiple clips, one for each channel.

If you want to record from multiple midi channels, and funnel them into a set of output channels? Then that is possible, all from within a single clip.

There's a feature request logged about supporting the former use-case.

@blueveek Thanks that was fast!

Ummm, first case I'd like to record from one synth - at a time - into AUM.
Second case, I would like to send a performance create on external Korg Electribe 2 (several channels) at once into AUM, possible?

I'm mostly a one synth at a time guy but the 2nd option would open up huge worlds to me. Complex to set up with Atom and AUM?

From what you're describing, all of this is possible. Just like with any other project in AUM (or other DAWs), you just need to be careful with your routing. If this is your first time using AUM or routing MIDI things in general, expect a learning curve. If not, then you'll be fine!

Very good and that is all I needed to know. I just didn't want to dig and dig only to find out that it isn't possible. Thanks!

No problem. Just be careful with your routing and channel filtering when recording that performance. This is very easy to mess up.

brattcave

Hi - just a slight annoyance this but... setting the node / instance colour doesn't seem to be working in AUM. The value setting doesn't seem to be saved. I've compared with other apps and they seem to be working. I've also tried different styles with no effect. Anybody else able to replicate this? Cheers

mbncp

Sorry, little OT, but someone asked in this thread (can't find it anymore..) if an AUV3 plug could create a virtual port and one of @blueveek 's avatar said he would be checking it, any results ? As this would be a great opportunity to hassle @brambos for Mozaic 2

blueveek

@brattcave said:
Hi - just a slight annoyance this but... setting the node / instance colour doesn't seem to be working in AUM. The value setting doesn't seem to be saved. I've compared with other apps and they seem to be working. I've also tried different styles with no effect. Anybody else able to replicate this? Cheers

Can you clarify what you mean by "doesn't seem to be working"? Atom will use the color you pick but change it to the nearest color compatible with Launchpad controllers. Perhaps that's what's happening.

@mbncp said:
Sorry, little OT, but someone asked in this thread (can't find it anymore..) if an AUV3 plug could create a virtual port and one of @blueveek 's avatar said he would be checking it, any results ? As this would be a great opportunity to hassle @brambos for Mozaic 2

Haven't had a chance to look into it yet. Hope to soon.

blueveek

New in 2.0.4:

Even more swing controls!
Negative swing. Control over swing timing and durations.

brattcave

@blueveek said:

@brattcave said:
Hi - just a slight annoyance this but... setting the node / instance colour doesn't seem to be working in AUM. The value setting doesn't seem to be saved. I've compared with other apps and they seem to be working. I've also tried different styles with no effect. Anybody else able to replicate this? Cheers

Can you clarify what you mean by "doesn't seem to be working"? Atom will use the color you pick but change it to the nearest color compatible with Launchpad controllers. Perhaps that's what's happening.

@blueveek Aha... Apologies, I must have missed this feature - another very clever idea! This is a great app you've put together here and your response to user questions is just first rate - Many thanks!

ipadbeatmaking

@blueveek said:
New in 2.0.4:

Even more swing controls!
Negative swing. Control over swing timing and durations.

🤯

Very nice! When’s it being released?

RajahP

@ipadbeatmaking said:

@blueveek said:
New in 2.0.4:

Even more swing controls!
Negative swing. Control over swing timing and durations.

🤯

Very nice! When’s it being released?

FL Studio’s Articulate?

Nice, can’t wait..

Thanks..

Edit, that’s what we’re talking about... 😷

RajahP

I think ‘fold’ will be a great addition...too.

lukesleepwalker

@blueveek said:
New in 2.0.4:

Even more swing controls!
Negative swing. Control over swing timing and durations.

OH, that is neato!

Gravitas

A question.

If I purchase Atom and then upgrade to Atom2 via the bundle
will I be paying full price for both or I should get Atom2?

eross

is there a way to clone a selection and have the clone move above or below the copied line, instead of sending the cloned part to the right side ?

blueveek

@Gravitas said:
A question.

If I purchase Atom and then upgrade to Atom2 via the bundle
will I be paying full price for both or I should get Atom2?

No, you'll pay only the difference, which at the moment is 1$.

@zah said:

@winconway said:

@zah said:

@winconway said:

@blueveek said:.

I'm very happy to hear that. @winconway bomb tested it and painstakingly went through every single little button or touchable bit in the interface, double tapped and triple checked, to make sure it works perfectly. Direct your applause to him..

Pencil is very very nice in PR2, if anybody gets chance to borrow one to try, trust me, have a go

Serious question: What is the difference between a $1.25 touch stylus from Dollarama, and a 100-150 dollar Apple Pencil when it comes to Atom?
I’ve been checking out a cheap-o stylus with Atom. Like it very much. Works well on the smaller stuff. What am I missing?

The Apple pencil is just very accurate, if a normal stylus is working perfectly for you, I would stick with that and save your money.

Ok Thanks . I just wasn't sure if there was any pressure sensitive reason to use an Apple Pencil with Atom 2. If it's just simply a touch off/on thing, then I'll definitely stick with the cheaper stylus.

The more expensive Apple Pencil also has some neat tap/double tap gestures on the Pencil itself to switch to eraser mode etc. But those are not implemented in Atom yet, so you can happily continue using your cheaper stylus with no downgrade to your experience.

@eross said:
is there a way to clone a selection and have the clone move above or below the copied line, instead of sending the cloned part to the right side ?

Example:
1. "Copy selected" from the Clipboard menu.
2. Place your playhead to where you want to paste.
3. "Paste at playhead" from the Clipboard menu.
4. Move your new selection up/down with the Move tool, or by dragging.

Gravitas

Would there be any point in getting Atom and Atom2?

blueveek

@zah said:

@zah said:

@wim said:

@zah said:
How do I create a gap (or a slight overlay) between a bunch of selected quantized notes?

Bake in the quantize, then turn quantize off and make your adjustments to the note length?

@tk32 said:
Two quick methods for you both, @zah and @wim

1. Turn off grid snap and resize the group manually from the right edge ... OR...
2. Apply quantise with 'note durations' enabled and set it to the next size down in grid divisions.

Thanks guys. With Atom2 I feel like I'm learning how to add and subtract, and you guys are doing quantum physics. Looking forward to a manual for this thing so I can try to catch up to you somewhat.

Is there a way to increase the length of each note in a sequence so that they butt up against the next midi note regardless of its quantized size . If no, then @blueveek , is that an easy addition to Atom2?

The upcoming swing panel will be a step in that direction. Specifically for the example you gave earlier, you can use the swing timing and duration sliders to nudge the notes forward, or shorten their duration, so they "butt up against one another". For general-purpose quantizing, it's not implemented yet, but I think this is a great idea.

@Gravitas said:
Would there be any point in getting Atom and Atom2?

The best reason for me would be that you'd be contributing 1$ extra to future development. I hope that's not a lot to ask.

A good reason for you might be that there's a few missing things in Atom 2 that were in Atom 1. The only one I can think of right now is time stretching. However, full feature parity is planned for future updates.

espiegel123

@Gravitas said:
Would there be any point in getting Atom and Atom2?

Not that I can think of.

Gravitas

Thanks for answering.