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In principle, yes. It's a bit of work though, and I can't justify prioritizing it for the immediate future. Hope that's reasonable.
Nice catch! Thanks!
FYI
I just tried to enable my iCloud Drive on my Air3 13.7
(If I recall correctly, my iCloud Drive was activated years ago on another device to transfer Gadget purchases to phone, but was kept off since because no need for it)
I simply went
Enabled this
Launched A2 in AUM and opened Files app
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Sounds more like you've not had iCloud 'active' for the past 3-4 years or something?!
The 'Upgrade' (not to be confused with buying more storage!) was a thing when things went from 'iCloud Files' to 'iCloud Drive'(~iOS11). So 'Upgrade' is at least worth a try.
What happens if you log into iCloud.com with your AppleID?
(That is another way to 'convert' old files to iCloud Files to iCloud Drive, once that's done enabling iCloud Drive on the iPad/iPhone should be a pice of cake).
For me storing Atom 2 config files in iCloud is very handy and makes it easy to share config files between devices and edit using a computer which to me is more comfortable than typing on the iPad screen.
Hope you'll get it to work!
Have you rebooted your iPad?
Tap the three dots in a circle at the top-right of the Files app Locations list. Select edit. Hopefully you’ll see a switch to turn iCloud Drive on.
Anyone using Cubasis with Atom 2 ?
I haven't been using Atom2 intensively but I have been having a few issues with the app seeming to freeze a bit. A few weeks ago I was playing with it and all my notes, plus the grid vanished, so there was just a solid grey background with the tools around the outside.
Tonight I had recorded some midi from an outside source, and was copying sections of it to the clipboard. After my maybe 3rd copy, I couldn't close the clipboard window, or move the grid, or deselect or use any knobs. then the grid disappeared. I could still move the window around, closed and reopened it. It was still blank I was just about to take a screenshot and post when it all sprang back to life again, working as per normal. Thought I should report it... This is in AUM on a 10.5 iPad pro, 13.6.1
Also the interface seems to be slow in responding, so much so that I hit a menu item, think i didn't activate it, hit it again and the see it opens and close because of the lag. I've been switching patterns and though the audio seems to be responding, the screen is very slow to show my changes. I'll restart, hopefully that will fix it.
Would you say why you did that? I'm dancing around drambo at the moment (trying not to get into it) and this would be useful information, however subjective.
I’d say you should definitely get into drambo. I’m using it almost on every project, just not as a host. I switched back to aum primarily because it’s much more convenient to record stems in it. midi routing is faster and easier (in some aspects) too. but I’m sure i will use it again as a host. especially after a few more feature updates, but even in its current form.
How long was the Atom track?
Is this with the recent Atom update?
Sounds similar to ui issues I was having a few days ago, there’s a video near the bottom of https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/44101/atom-piano-roll-2-is-now-available/p58. (Hey, is there a way to get a link to a particular post?)
I'm hoping that the next release will speed things up a bit in this department. It's being beta tested.
Over time, I'll keep optimizing things, and everything will get smoother and smoother. We'll get there eventually.
In the meantime, you can disable animations by either
Using the "Disabled Animations" config. Top-right hamburger menu, then set config.
or
Set "Reduce Motion" in your iOS settings.
Either of the above will speed things up dramatically, especially on older hardware.
Sidenote for the nerdy: as pointed out however, know that the UI snappiness is independent of audio performance. I'm (perhaps overly) parallelizing everything: the UI runs on 2 threads in a different process, separate from the host's UI thread, separate again from the audio thread, separate again from the note editing (e.g. quantizing) operations which happen in their own thread, and finally separate again from the scripting thread that controls the Launchpads. Perhaps overkill, but I'm future-proofing for modern chips with more cores. Older hardware is at a slight disadvantage at the moment, but I've made a conscious decision about it because all evidence points to chips getting more and more cores and this getting better with time.
Wow, just by announcing a new iPad Pro Apple has made my 512GB 12.9” 2020 iPad Pro old.
(You know I jest, you young whipper-snapper)
What‘s the simplest method of transferring Atom 1 MIDI clips to Atom 2?
I‘ve also saved those presets as AUM audio unit presets. I reckon that those cannot be migrated.
it was around 32 bars, and it was 2.0.5
I've just updated this morning to the latest version so maybe that will fix things
No, that seems to be a separate thing.
@blueveek
Just had a negative experience, not sure if it's recoverable from. In AUM, Recorded about 32 bars of midi from Soft drummer direct into Atom, with fills etc. I copied about 8 sections, mostly 4 bars long, to the clipboard and inserted them in new patterns.
Added new instance of Atom trying to learn how to sequence those patterns. I started adding notes to that instance, which crashed and took the first instance with it. I reloaded and everything was gone from my hour of work. Well nearly everything - I'd been deleting my clips after pasting into patterns to avoid confusion, so the last clipboard entry which I didn't delete was there, plus 1 empty pattern.
I don't have a lot of experience with crashes on iOS so maybe I'm lazy with saving. Do I need to be saving a preset regularly in circumstances like this?
What I was doing when it crashed was... I'd entered a note in instance 2, realised it was in the wrong place, and I was scrolling, zooming, trying to select etc but a bit haphazardly as I'm still not totally up to speed with the correct gestures. Then it crashed.
Any suggestions?
Is it possible I'm doing something wrong to mess up Atom? I was trying to do the same kind of pattern building process last night when the screen would freeze, and the grid would disappear, so there was just a blank dark grey background, with the tools still in view around it. That's happened a few times before, but last night after a few minutes it all bounced back into action again.
I can’t speak to Atom crashing but to answer your question, yes, save constantly! Once you get in the habit, you won’t regret it.
@blueveek And yet you still got it working in iOS 12. Much thanks. It's not my main machine, but when the boy is monopolizing the newer device, it's nice to know my old Air 1 is still there at the ready for the most sample-accurate of noodling.
Just like @gusgranite said, It's always a good idea to save and backup. But! (see below)
...it's never the user's fault if a crash occurs. No matter the circumstances, the ideal is that you cannot "do something wrong to mess up Atom". Atom must be robust and durable enough to handle anything.
Can you DM me the project? I'll have a look asap at what's happened, and the data may be recoverable.
There's also a "Logs" directory on your iCloud Drive under the Atom folder, and the most recent file there should include some close as to what's happened (if indeed what's happened came from within Atom).
@blueveek TBH I'm not that concerned about the actual project, it's just experimentation/learning stuff.
But I'll DM you 3 logs from today, I think 1 will be relevant. And also one from last night showing an error that may be related to my window losing its grid.
Thank you! It'll help make Atom more stable for others too.
Very naice!!! So many ways I just cant choose!!!
Here's an idea: just last night @tk32 did an experiment where each pattern would be in a different key, assigned pattern switching to a knob, so turning that knob would change the brightness/darkness of the song live.
Now we are getting into the realms of true remixing on the fly! Endless possibilities !! @blueveek
Have to admit when I first saw CCV I thought it was Control Voltage!
I was planning on routing Atoms in C Major through my Mozaic Harmonizer so changing key happens based on selected chord.
You can always convert CV (control voltage) to CCV (CC value). In fact, I think that's the norm with MIDI, right?
Not familiar with it all, but thats sort of how I understand it. Not planning to use CV to trigger Atom patterns. Happy with the myriad of other options !! @blueveek
So I really enjoy using the step input function. Instant techno basically. But it got me thinking.. there’s a workflow with old analog hardware which allows a sequencer to be advanced by external triggers or gates.
The most notorious examples are the SH-101 and Juno-6 / 60. They would typically be clocked with the rim shot output of the TR-808 or TR-707. This of course allowed on the fly rhythmic variations to recorded sequences.
The apps MidiDREAMS and MidiSTEPS also have this functionality. You can input a midi sequence, and then advance 1 step per note on, using an external midi device to input the note ons. This is also possible with some modules in miRack and Drambo.
The question I have - would this functionality be possible to introduce with scripting? Or @blueveek do you find it interesting enough to add as a feature?
I got turned on to this workflow by @hypnopad , who about a year ago, was trying to reproduce his Ableton rig with iOS sequencers. This led to a pretty involved community effort to build a system which resulted in the HypnoSequence script by @wim .
https://patchstorage.com/hypno-sequence/
Atom2 is mind boggling customizable for what seems like most midi needs. The step entry mode is brilliant and immediate, and seems to be half way there already. Atom 2 clips can even be triggered by midi notes either in sustain mode or toggled, so I was wondering if it could be taken 1 step further, allow steps to be triggered sequentially from note, cc or velocity (following the Atom2 m.o.).
I hope @hypnopad doesn’t mind me sharing his music. It’s pretty inspiring how he has a different midi sequence triggered by individual hits from each of the different drum heads on his rig. (Haven’t seen you around here for a while man!)
@blueveek A couple use case scenarios:
Using one instance of Atom2 to drive a second instance of Atom2. EG: Taking a 7 bar loop (rhythmically based sequence) to drive a 2 bar melodic sequence. For every note on instance 2 receives from instance 1, it will advance by 1 step.
Or using an impulse which gets converted into a midi signal to drive Atom 2. EG: a the impulse from a live hand clap or slap on the table gets converted into a midi note or CC value, and then advances Atom2. It becomes a performance device now.
Function demonstrated with midiDREAMS
And Drambo
Thank you, Vasily 🙏
Coming in 2.0.7.
Multi-channel mode
Channel "funnel mode" won't be the only mode available anymore. You'll be able to filter by channel in a single instance. Each MIDI event can have (and will preserve) its own channel. Each instance can emit multiple channels at once.
Scale fuzzy search
Find scales by name, or alternative names, or individual notes. Bad spelling work just fine
(this is just a start, scale suggestions from selected notes is in the works).