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  • wimwim

    @rs2000 said:
    Nice update @blueveek!
    Dumb question: How can I unlock X/Y when zooming?
    When editing 4 octaves on screen, the vertical zoom level works well but the horizontal axis is much too narrow, almost impossible to place notes at the correct time position.

    Can't. At least not yet.

  • tk32tk32
    edited May 2021

    This update is insane.

    It pushed me to the limits as a beta tester, trying to find bugs with all the new stuff. I couldn't!!

    Important reminder

    Be aware that automation is currently only recorded in a black box. This means you can't see it or edit it. But you will hear it. You can overdub it. And you can clear all recorded automation without harming notes via the command on the patterns panel. Oh, and like all other things in Atom2 it works with sample-accurate resolution and precision!

  • NimboStratusNimboStratus

    Sorry for the question but does this still multiple instances per clip/track’?

  • SamuSamu

    Regarding Atom 2 and selecting which midi channel(s) to edit...
    ...it will be needed for per note editing of MPE events.

    Added bonus will obviously be editing of CC data for all 16 midi channels :)

  • tk32tk32
    edited May 2021

    @NimboStratus said:
    Sorry for the question but does this still multiple instances per clip/track’?

    If I understand your question...

    You can now use Atom2 in several different ways. The most flexible option is still to create multiple instances per track - especially when working with a launchpad controller - but it is also now possible to have multiple channels AND multiple triggerable patterns in a single instance.

  • JeezsJeezs

    Incredible update.
    Anyone knows how automation works. I didn’t found any panel to visualize it.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @Jeezs said:
    Incredible update.
    Anyone knows how automation works. I didn’t found any panel to visualize it.

    See TK32’s post above. It is recorded but you can’t see it.

  • NimboStratusNimboStratus
    edited May 2021

    @tk32 said:

    @NimboStratus said:
    Sorry for the question but does this still multiple instances per clip/track’?

    If I understand your question...

    You can now use Atom2 in several different ways. The most flexible option is still to create multiple instances per track - especially when working with a launchpad controller - but it is also now possible to have multiple channels AND multiple triggerable patterns in a single instance.

    Not using a controller. Would like to be able to have a single instance of atom2 and have different midi clips playing on different midi channels (like Helium does it but don’t have Helium). ;-). And ideally a ‘song’ mode so can build up a song from the different clips.

  • tk32tk32
    edited May 2021

    Blueveek forgot to mention this in his notes...

    • The pen tool now has a long press menu where you can set 'target channel' and 'default velocity'.
  • wimwim
    edited May 2021

    @NimboStratus said:

    @tk32 said:

    @NimboStratus said:
    Sorry for the question but does this still multiple instances per clip/track’?

    If I understand your question...

    You can now use Atom2 in several different ways. The most flexible option is still to create multiple instances per track - especially when working with a launchpad controller - but it is also now possible to have multiple channels AND multiple triggerable patterns in a single instance.

    Not using a controller. Would like to be able to have a single instance of atom2 and have different midi clips playing on different midi channels (like Helium does it but don’t have Helium). ;-). And ideally a ‘song’ mode so can build up a song from the different clips.

    At the same time? No, that’s not how it works. Each pattern could have notes on a different channel, but only one pattern plays at a time.

  • tk32tk32
    edited May 2021

    @NimboStratus said:
    Not using a controller. Would like to be able to (A) have a single instance of atom2 and have different midi clips playing on different midi channels (like Helium does it but don’t have Helium). ;-). And ideally (B) a ‘song’ mode so can build up a song from the different clips.

    (A) is now possible. You can have midi notes that play on different channels in a single atom.
    (B) is also possible, but will require a separate instance of Atom2 to act as the clip sequencer. See this basic demo template on patchstorage (a more advanced version, that includes pattern switching, is coming soon): https://patchstorage.com/atom2-internal-sequencer-template/

  • JeezsJeezs

    @tk32 said:
    Blueveek forgot to mention this in his notes...

    • The pen tool now has a long press menu where you can set 'target channel' and 'default velocity'.

    Thanks

  • blueveekblueveek
    edited May 2021

    @tk32 said:

    @NimboStratus said:
    Not using a controller. Would like to be able to (A) have a single instance of atom2 and have different midi clips playing on different midi channels (like Helium does it but don’t have Helium). ;-). And ideally (B) a ‘song’ mode so can build up a song from the different clips.

    (B) is also possible, but will require a separate instance of Atom2 to act as the clip sequencer. See this basic demo template on patchstorage (a more advanced version, that includes pattern switching, is coming soon): https://patchstorage.com/atom2-internal-sequencer-template/

    (just wanted to add that this 'modular song mode' has been available and a key feature since the first release of Atom 2)

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @blueveek
    Not sure if it’s BeatHawk issue or A2 (lately had too many issues with BH)
    When same notes recorded across various channels in mpe mode I’m experiencing stuck notes - can replicate.
    I’m trying to seq multiple parts of BH from single A2 instance (in Drambo). Is this ‘unsupported’ use case in context of mpe?

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    How do you bring up the automation lanes with the new update?

  • NimboStratusNimboStratus

    Thanks all ;)

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @Jumpercollins said:
    How do you bring up the automation lanes with the new update?

    I don’t think there are any yet. It just records and plays back the automation you record. And allows you to delete just the automation and re-record it if necessary.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @Jumpercollins said:
    How do you bring up the automation lanes with the new update?

    There are none, this is what ‘black box’ means.
    Only recording, no editing... nothing to bring up just yet :)

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    Ok I’ve heard of black boxes in planes but not in music apps 😬

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    Probably need to see a video on how this works.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2021

    @Jumpercollins said:
    Probably need to see a video on how this works.

    That would be a dull video. Not much to see.

    Hit record. Play in some automation from a controller or app. Stop record. Press play. The automation you recorded plays back. If you don't like what you recorded, overdub some new automation, or clear it from the pattern menu.

  • Johnny89Johnny89

    @tk32 said:

    @NimboStratus said:
    Not using a controller. Would like to be able to (A) have a single instance of atom2 and have different midi clips playing on different midi channels (like Helium does it but don’t have Helium). ;-). And ideally (B) a ‘song’ mode so can build up a song from the different clips.

    (A) is now possible. You can have midi notes that play on different channels in a single atom.
    (B) is also possible, but will require a separate instance of Atom2 to act as the clip sequencer. See this basic demo template on patchstorage (a more advanced version, that includes pattern switching, is coming soon): https://patchstorage.com/atom2-internal-sequencer-template/

    Hi, is there a midi bus option or just it’s midi multi out ? A DAW is soon to be release and I can’t see the midi out of Atom but it uses midi bus instead like the one in Helium.

  • blueveekblueveek
    edited May 2021

    @Johnny89 said:
    Hi, is there a midi bus option or just it’s midi multi out ? A DAW is soon to be release and I can’t see the midi out of Atom but it uses midi bus instead like the one in Helium.

    If you're referring to output ports in the AUv3 spec, Atom is intentionally avoiding them, and will intentionally continue to do so for the foreseeable future. If at least a few other hosts would decide support it, and if it had what I consider to be less of an atrocious user experience, I might change my mind. However, there's just too many limitations around it today in terms of UX.

  • Johnny89Johnny89

    @blueveek said:

    @Johnny89 said:
    Hi, is there a midi bus option or just it’s midi multi out ? A DAW is soon to be release and I can’t see the midi out of Atom but it uses midi bus instead like the one in Helium.

    If you're referring to output ports in the AUv3 spec, Atom is intentionally avoiding them, and will intentionally continue to do so for the foreseeable future. If at least a few other hosts would decide support it, and if it had what I consider to be less of an atrocious user experience, I might change my mind. However, there's just too many limitations around it today in terms of UX.

    Hi thanks for the reply.please consider implementing it. The DAW in question is one of the most used on iOS .fingers crossed it should be few days away

  • SamuSamu

    @Johnny89 said:

    Hi thanks for the reply.please consider implementing it. The DAW in question is one of the most used on iOS .fingers crossed it should be few days away

    Are we talking Cubasis 3.3 here?

    If that's the case I it would be way smarter to convince them to license Atom 2 and replace the built-in one which is starting to look like a dated bad joke...

  • Johnny89Johnny89

    @Samu said:

    @Johnny89 said:

    Hi thanks for the reply.please consider implementing it. The DAW in question is one of the most used on iOS .fingers crossed it should be few days away

    Are we talking Cubasis 3.3 here?

    If that's the case I it would be way smarter to convince them to license Atom 2 and replace the built-in one which is starting to look like a dated bad joke...

    Not Cubasis 3.3

  • SamuSamu

    @Johnny89 said:

    Not Cubasis 3.3

    A midi-editor is such a central piece of any DAW so it should be well implemented :)
    The same applies to all other DAWs as well... (BM3, NS2, AEM, AuriaPro, Gadget, GarageBand etc. etc.)

  • mbncpmbncp

    @Johnny89 said:

    Not Cubasis 3.3

    Cubasis 4 ?

  • rs2000rs2000

    @wim said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Nice update @blueveek!
    Dumb question: How can I unlock X/Y when zooming?
    When editing 4 octaves on screen, the vertical zoom level works well but the horizontal axis is much too narrow, almost impossible to place notes at the correct time position.

    Can't. At least not yet.

    Thanks.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

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