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  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @mbncp said:

    @Johnny89 said:

    Not Cubasis 3.3

    Cubasis 4 ?

    GarageBand update?

  • SamuSamu

    I might be pushing it but I'd love to see even more zoom in Atom 2, especially when editing 1/64 or shorter note-events and more precision when adjusting 'off the grid' events.

    And yes, separate X/Y zoom could be handy with a 'page system' with full bars/beats & x-octaves depending on zoom level.

    I've been pushing the timing of Atom 2 to the max (1/64th notes at 999BPM) and it's solid with no hiccups at all which can't be said about a few other sequencers. Sure it's more like 'granular synthesis' than 'music' but it works :D

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @blueveek
    Not sure if it’s BeatHawk issue or A2 (lately had too many issues with BH)
    When same notes recorded across various channels in mpe mode I’m experiencing stuck notes - can replicate.
    I’m trying to seq multiple parts of BH from single A2 instance (in Drambo). Is this ‘unsupported’ use case in context of mpe?

    I guess it’s unsupported or just me...

  • blueveekblueveek
    edited May 2021

    @Gavinski said:
    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

    That sounds fabulous! Hopefully more and more instruments will add MPE support :)

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @blueveek
    Not sure if it’s BeatHawk issue or A2 (lately had too many issues with BH)
    When same notes recorded across various channels in mpe mode I’m experiencing stuck notes - can replicate.
    I’m trying to seq multiple parts of BH from single A2 instance (in Drambo). Is this ‘unsupported’ use case in context of mpe?

    I guess it’s unsupported or just me...

    I don't know about BeatHawk, but using a single instance to sequence multiple instruments (or "tracks") should work just fine, assuming the host doesn't jumble up or post-process the MIDI somehow. Check out this demo by @tk32:

    @tk32 said:
    ...and here’s a little a preview of multi-channel Atom2 in action :)

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @blueveek said:

    Version 2.0.7 - MPE is here!

    Thank you so much for your continued dedication and hard work Victor!

    I’ve been playing with the BETA and was thrilled to see hear my SWAM expressions being recorded.

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Developer and app of the year in my book 🏆

    Absolutely! He’s got my vote!

    @Gavinski said:
    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

    Nice! Love the ambient swells.

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited May 2021

    @Intrepolicious said:

    @blueveek said:

    Version 2.0.7 - MPE is here!

    Thank you so much for your continued dedication and hard work Victor!

    I’ve been playing with the BETA and was thrilled to see hear my SWAM expressions being recorded.

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Developer and app of the year in my book 🏆

    Absolutely! He’s got my vote!

    @Gavinski said:
    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

    Nice! Love the ambient swells.

    @blueveek said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

    That sounds fabulous! Hopefully more and more instruments will add MPE support :)

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @blueveek
    Not sure if it’s BeatHawk issue or A2 (lately had too many issues with BH)
    When same notes recorded across various channels in mpe mode I’m experiencing stuck notes - can replicate.
    I’m trying to seq multiple parts of BH from single A2 instance (in Drambo). Is this ‘unsupported’ use case in context of mpe?

    I guess it’s unsupported or just me...

    I don't know about BeatHawk, but using a single instance to sequence multiple instruments (or "tracks") should work just fine, assuming the host doesn't jumble up or post-process the MIDI somehow. Check out this demo by @tk32:

    @tk32 said:
    ...and here’s a little a preview of multi-channel Atom2 in action :)

    Will it be too much to ask for this session to decipher? Thanks..

    And Thanks @blueveek for all of your hard work..

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @blueveek
    Can replicate the issue with another AU (KQDixie multi) in another host (AUM).
    The example above doesn’t cover the issue I’m talking about.
    E.g. note 48 recorded on ch1 and same note recorded on ch2.
    Monitoring note offs (or note on with vel 0) I can see that for ‘overlapping’ notes (same notes on different channels), note offs sometimes sent to wrong ch. (seem to happen more so when note ends are not quantised / the note offs occur not at the exact same time)
    I understand this use case may not be compatible with ’mpe hack’, but theoretically it should work I think (as it works for the most part).

  • blueveekblueveek

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @blueveek
    Can replicate the issue with another AU (KQDixie multi) in another host (AUM).
    E.g. note 48 recorded on ch1 and same note recorded on ch2.
    Monitoring note offs (or note on with vel 0) I can see that for ‘overlapping’ notes (same notes on different channels), note offs sometimes sent to wrong ch. (seem to happen more so when note ends are not quantised / the note offs occur not at the exact same time)

    Oh interesting. Yes, Atom has some precautionary stacking approaches, but overlapping notes on separate channels should indeed be handled differently Thanks for this bit of info, I'll have a look.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited May 2021

    @blueveek great, great job sir! Can you add a control to create a new, blank pattern? That way we can continually create new loops as we jam.

  • blueveekblueveek

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    @blueveek great, great job sir! Can you add a control to create a new, blank pattern? That way we can continually create new loops as we jam.

    Already there. Take a look at the 'duplicate active pattern' and 'clear active pattern' params.

  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @blueveek Thanks for the update, the big plus for me is the ability to record one multichannel midi file in AUM and export to desktop, you could do this using other apps before but it’s so much nicer having it all in AUM.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @blueveek said: update and update and update with new features every time

    If someone doesn’t buy this app shame on them ;)

    A ridiculous amount of work. I’d pay $20 for this app.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited May 2021

    @blueveek said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    @blueveek great, great job sir! Can you add a control to create a new, blank pattern? That way we can continually create new loops as we jam.

    Already there. Take a look at the 'duplicate active pattern' and 'clear active pattern' params.

    Gotcha! I wish I could trigger a blank pattern to play in instead of the extra step of clearing it. I do like the option of duplicating patterns too, although it would be nice to have the option to press a control and trigger a blank straight away. Thank you sir

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @blueveek said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    @blueveek great, great job sir! Can you add a control to create a new, blank pattern? That way we can continually create new loops as we jam.

    Already there. Take a look at the 'duplicate active pattern' and 'clear active pattern' params.

    Gotcha! I wish I could trigger a blank pattern to play in. Thank you sir

    Why can’t you?

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @RajahP said:

    @Intrepolicious said:

    @blueveek said:

    Version 2.0.7 - MPE is here!

    Thank you so much for your continued dedication and hard work Victor!

    I’ve been playing with the BETA and was thrilled to see hear my SWAM expressions being recorded.

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Developer and app of the year in my book 🏆

    Absolutely! He’s got my vote!

    @Gavinski said:
    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

    Nice! Love the ambient swells.

    @blueveek said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Example of mpe recorded in atom. I am insanely happy this is finally here. Huge huge thanks and kudos to @blueveek

    That sounds fabulous! Hopefully more and more instruments will add MPE support :)

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @blueveek
    Not sure if it’s BeatHawk issue or A2 (lately had too many issues with BH)
    When same notes recorded across various channels in mpe mode I’m experiencing stuck notes - can replicate.
    I’m trying to seq multiple parts of BH from single A2 instance (in Drambo). Is this ‘unsupported’ use case in context of mpe?

    I guess it’s unsupported or just me...

    I don't know about BeatHawk, but using a single instance to sequence multiple instruments (or "tracks") should work just fine, assuming the host doesn't jumble up or post-process the MIDI somehow. Check out this demo by @tk32:

    @tk32 said:
    ...and here’s a little a preview of multi-channel Atom2 in action :)

    Will it be too much to ask for this session to decipher? Thanks..

    >

    Which session? You’ve got multiple peeps quoted.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @Intrepolicious said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @blueveek said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    @blueveek great, great job sir! Can you add a control to create a new, blank pattern? That way we can continually create new loops as we jam.

    Already there. Take a look at the 'duplicate active pattern' and 'clear active pattern' params.

    Gotcha! I wish I could trigger a blank pattern to play in. Thank you sir

    Why can’t you?

    You have duplicate a pattern you already created if I’m understanding correctly then clear it.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited May 2021

    So to explain…
    I like to create a pattern then trigger a blank pattern to record another pattern for things like chord progressions or variations of the original drum pattern all in one go. Basically a jam session of sorts then go back and pick out the best bits. I would like to use my sustain pedal to trigger blank patterns. I am able to accomplish this with LoopBud because I have created a custom CC layout for my Launchpad where all 64 pads trigger patterns. I setup multiple LoopBuds with 64 patterns total then trigger a pad anytime I want to record a new pattern. I feel like Atom 2 could surpass this workflow by adding a trigger for blank patterns.

  • tk32tk32

    Blueveek has added more in these 7 minor Atom2 updates than most apps manage in a year.

    His decision to honour the minimum possible bundle/upgrade pricing means he only gets paid fractions of a dollar for a large chunk of the current install base.

    It’s frankly embarrassing that we don’t have a better way to reward this guy’s inhuman efforts to make this app something extremely special.

    I hope he takes my advice and gives himself a rest from coding... right about now. :)

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @tk32 said:
    Blueveek has added more in these 7 minor Atom2 updates than most apps manage in a year.

    His decision to honour the minimum possible bundle/upgrade pricing means he only gets paid fractions of a dollar for a large chunk of the current install base.

    It’s frankly embarrassing that we don’t have a better way to reward this guy’s inhuman efforts to make this app something extremely special.

    I hope he takes my advice and gives himself a rest from coding... right about now. :)

    Right on, I quickly bought Atom 2 when it was released even though I already bought Atom. This app is way more valuable than the price.

  • SamuSamu

    @tk32 said:
    Blueveek has added more in these 7 minor Atom2 updates than most apps manage in a year.

    His decision to honour the minimum possible bundle/upgrade pricing means he only gets paid fractions of a dollar for a large chunk of the current install base.

    It’s frankly embarrassing that we don’t have a better way to reward this guy’s inhuman efforts to make this app something extremely special.

    I hope he takes my advice and gives himself a rest from coding... right about now. :)

    Agreed and it makes me kinda wonder wtf the other devlopers are doing :smiley:

  • RajahPRajahP

    @Intrepolicious said: >

    Which session? You’ve got multiple peeps quoted.

    This one....

    @tk32 said:
    ...and here’s a little a preview of multi-channel Atom2 in action :)

  • tk32tk32

    @RajahP

    Here:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/p28by1p1n15h22r/tk32 - one atom 3 channels.aumproj?raw=1

  • RajahPRajahP

    @tk32 said:
    @RajahP

    Here:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/p28by1p1n15h22r/tk32 - one atom 3 channels.aumproj?raw=1

    Thank you..

  • blueveekblueveek

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    So to explain…
    I like to create a pattern then trigger a blank pattern to record another pattern for things like chord progressions or variations of the original drum pattern all in one go. Basically a jam session of sorts then go back and pick out the best bits. I would like to use my sustain pedal to trigger blank patterns. I am able to accomplish this with LoopBud because I have created a custom CC layout for my Launchpad where all 64 pads trigger patterns. I setup multiple LoopBuds with 64 patterns total then trigger a pad anytime I want to record a new pattern. I feel like Atom 2 could surpass this workflow by adding a trigger for blank patterns.

    Gotcha. So you want to use a single operation to create a new empty pattern, because you want to use a single CC source for it. Whereas the 'duplicate active' and 'clear active' operations in Atom are distinct and require two inputs.

    I don't think it's that big of a deal to add an 'add empty' pattern command, I'll look into it.

  • MisplacedDevelopmentMisplacedDevelopment

    @Johnny89 said:

    @blueveek said:

    @Johnny89 said:
    Hi, is there a midi bus option or just it’s midi multi out ? A DAW is soon to be release and I can’t see the midi out of Atom but it uses midi bus instead like the one in Helium.

    If you're referring to output ports in the AUv3 spec, Atom is intentionally avoiding them, and will intentionally continue to do so for the foreseeable future. If at least a few other hosts would decide support it, and if it had what I consider to be less of an atrocious user experience, I might change my mind. However, there's just too many limitations around it today in terms of UX.

    Hi thanks for the reply.please consider implementing it. The DAW in question is one of the most used on iOS .fingers crossed it should be few days away

    Looks like Auria is about to get a long awaited update so I’m guessing it is that:

    https://www.auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16610

    I can record MIDI from Atom 2 into another Auria track by using MIDI Route. Using Auria’s internal routing results in MIDI with weird lengths and missing notes. I have not however managed to get triggering working via MIDI from the Auria timeline.

  • jazzmessjazzmess

    Bought ! Cheers from Paris and thanks for MPE !

  • blueveekblueveek
    edited May 2021

    @Samu said:
    I've been pushing the timing of Atom 2 to the max (1/64th notes at 999BPM) and it's solid with no hiccups at all which can't be said about a few other sequencers. Sure it's more like 'granular synthesis' than 'music' but it works :D

    I’m glad you noticed. I suspect not many people will, and a ridiculous amount of focus and effort was directed at enabling perfect sample accuracy.

    The ‘granular synthesis’ bit definitely made me chuckle.

    I think it’s now easy for anyone to make a demo which proves that rhythm and pitch are actually the same thing, which was a mind-bending realization when I first learned about it.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @Johnny89 said:

    @blueveek said:

    @Johnny89 said:
    Hi, is there a midi bus option or just it’s midi multi out ? A DAW is soon to be release and I can’t see the midi out of Atom but it uses midi bus instead like the one in Helium.

    If you're referring to output ports in the AUv3 spec, Atom is intentionally avoiding them, and will intentionally continue to do so for the foreseeable future. If at least a few other hosts would decide support it, and if it had what I consider to be less of an atrocious user experience, I might change my mind. However, there's just too many limitations around it today in terms of UX.

    Hi thanks for the reply.please consider implementing it. The DAW in question is one of the most used on iOS .fingers crossed it should be few days away

    Looks like Auria is about to get a long awaited update so I’m guessing it is that:

    https://www.auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16610

    I can record MIDI from Atom 2 into another Auria track by using MIDI Route. Using Auria’s internal routing results in MIDI with weird lengths and missing notes. I have not however managed to get triggering working via MIDI from the Auria timeline.

    It would surprise me (but I hope I am wrong) if Auria significantly overhauled its MIDI infrastructure. My guess is that the update will mostly address some known bugs ..l so if you are experiencing issues recording/routing MIDI from Atom, make sure to report it now so that it is on their radar.

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti
    edited May 2021

    @blueveek - WTF WTF WTF - do you ever sleep (I’ve said it before)??

    Yet another update of Atom 2 Piano Roll - wow!!!

    Now it’s time for some expensive IAP so we can support you with more cash! Or, perhaps we can make something in common Atom-lovers?

  • SynthiSynthi

    Thanks a lot for the blackbox CC feature!!! I was waiting beacause sustain pedal recording is a must for my work... So now I began my atom2 journey!

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