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@Pierre118 yeah, i probably did ask it 12 days ago, but several updates have come out since then, and there is never any mention of cc automation. It was said this was not going to happen at the original release; understood. but there have been 9 updates since the original release, and nothing yet.
i’m not asking to be a pain in the ass,I know the developer is busy, and does amazing work.
I’m just asking to get answers other than the usual. “it’s coming in a later update”. if it’s taking longer than expected just say that. Or if it is not possible; fine. people will understand. but don’t keep stringing people along. that does nothing it cause frustration.
@eross: the developer is putting in tons of time. He said at the outset that the cc editing wouldtake quote a while. Please be patient. It will happen. Asking when it will be ready won't speed it along...and he probably can't give an accurate estimate as time is finite and things have probably reared their heads as things to get done on the way to the finish line that weren't anticipated.
If you want to know the update details, just go to the App Store and read the version history.
@eross: no one is being strung along. All along Vic said it would it would take a significant amount of work before the CC editing was implemented. And since that time, some workflow enhancements that might not have been anticipated and took a lot of work were implemented.
I don't understand who you think strung you along...it wasn't the dev. He made it clear that it would take however long it takes...he even engaged with the community to get a sense of whether Atom would be useful to people without the cc editing because he was concerned that it might be too essential to too many people to release without it. The majority of folks said "we can make good use of this even without Cc editing, please dont wait till the automation editing is complete".
It is very hard (almost impossible) to know how long development of a complex project will take. The dev has shown great commitment. Please be patient. He KNOWS how imoortant it is and is working harder than any dev I know at the moment.
I really hope that all of these additional features he’s added, in order to cater to and accommodate all of the requests he’s had since release, haven’t disrupted his original vision for Atom 2!
i just wish there was a built-in fm synth engine in atom!
just kidding
My gut tells me the dude needs a break...
...sure we all wan't CC editing and all the other stuff but it's a one-man-show and sometimes breaks are needed.
No break until we get CC editing
Joking, obviously...
right, this is what i worry about as well
I think there's a logical order to the way the features have been added, building up to a proper implementation of automation editing. Multichannel midi editing needed to be in there before multichannel automation editing, for example. No shortcuts in top-tier coding.
+1
There has been 0 indication that he has lost sight of anything. As @aaronpc mentioned, if you want to build architecturally sound software, there is often a develop order THAT MIGHT NOT BE OBVIOUS TO A NON-CODER that makes sense. There are certain things you need to get in place before others.
It has been said over and over that cc automation editing is going to happen.
If that is primarily what someone is waiting for, I'd suggest NOT reading this thread and wait for someone to create a new thread that cc editing is here and know that it is more likely to happen months rather than weeks from now.
Asking "when" and "if" is more likely to irritate than inspire the person doing the work.
This.
One thing I've learnt, working closely with Blueveek, is that he has a very clear head for the order in which features should be implemented, and he pays very close attention to potential knock-on effects and other implications of doing things - or not doing things - in the correct order.
Black box automation and MPE recording is a big step towards full automation editing, but I still think it would be better for us to get comfortable with working under these conditions for the time being and let him have a long-overdue rest.
We'll get there when we get there. I feel we're already getting more value from this app than we have any right to.
yes, let’s give Victor some rest and begin to annoy BeepStreet again
No, let’s badger Michael about Loopy Pro 😁
Is there a way to ‘clone’ a note/chord etc up or down the piano roll instead of forward (to the right) in time?
sounds great. thanks for the info guys
Method 1
Method 2
Fixed that for ya!
Thank you! Also, is there a way to select multiple notes that aren’t able to be shown on screen (in the same atom instance) at the same time? Like ‘select only notes that are tapped’ setting or something that doesn’t deselect the notes in select mode?
Say for instance I want to select all the bass notes of each chord only (on desktop this might be done with someone like the shift key) and can’t simply ‘draw a box’ with the Apple Pencil without selecting other undesired notes. Is there a mode or setting for this? Thanks
Beat me to it 😂
That would be very nice to have. I'd see it as a toggle button for "add to selection" where every note you tap is added to the collection, and if you tap on an already selected note it is removed from the collection.
I asked for that and the solution was to long-tap on note events to add/remove them to/from the selection
Ahh. I'm a bit ashamed that as a beta tester I didn't remember that. I think a toggle would be much quicker and less tedious than all that long tapping, but at least there's a way. 👍🏼
No worries, an add/remove from a selection using the same 'lasso' tool could be handy in some cases, that I agree on.
The main reason I asked for it was to allow easy selection of note events that are not next to each other.
(I'm also on the 'bug hunt' and forget a thing or two).
Other things I've mentioned is 'velocity edit tool' when enabled it would allow swipe up/down on note-events to adjust velocity.
The functionality is already there but hidden under process -> velocity offset and the 'process' thing is less than optimal for adjusting single events. (I'm so used to Koala and this will likely become the norm for note-velocity editing in a few other apps).
At some point a 'search & replace' based on set event criteria could be super handy!
(Think change all CC123 to CC124, to Change all Midi Channel 1 to Midi Channel 10 etc. etc.).
And maybe to do 'value/velocity ramps', things like that.
This will likely be fixed when 'CC Editing' comes).
I'm still an Atom 2 Newbie and barely know how to modify/create user styles...
Cheers!
Shaddup! 🦡🦡😄
@echoopera
Thanks for the reply.
I’ve was trying to copy your setup video, Atom on Drambo’s main channel, routing midi notes from Atoms piano roll to Drambo synths.
Trying to record notes from the Launchpad in to Atom only (not the Drambo sequencer), I struggled to get notes recorded in using the same settings. Only when I changed it to funnel in Atom were the notes from launchpad recorded in atom and passed through to the synths on the other Drambo tracks. So this meant using multiple Channels inside one Atom instance wasn’t possible.
Individual instances of Atom loaded on each Drambo channel works fine with the Launchpad, but I do seem to loose the same level of integration you get between the hardware and software inside AUM (launchpad rows auto populating with mew rows for each new pattern) and the clips page also sends out midi notes when you trigger clips from launchpad so you get extra notes triggered in Drambo unless you remember to select the master track.
It’s a cool set up and probably just needs some tweaks to get it working smoothly
I prefer one atom instance on each track. It just seems way simpler and clicks a lot easier with me. But I get why @echoopera prefers it for his way of working.
In order to use the LP to play your Notes and Record them into Atom, it will be a bit of a Manual Process.
Just place a Midi Channel Filter before the Atom instance, and set the Channel to the Number you want to Record in to Atom. You'll then need to go in to Atom, enable that Channel#, and then Record your notes.
Doing this will allow you to use the LP to play notes and have them recorded into Atom. I don't think there's a way to configure it be auto, since it's 1 instance.
Your option of multiple instances of Atom2 will always work, since you can assign Midi rules on a per track basis in Drambo...but that was something I didn't want to go for, since I like the cleanliness of a single instance controlling multiple tracks.
Here's a screen shot of what I mean:
You may need to Change the Filter toggle in the Channel Filter control as well...I don't have a keyboard next to me to test, so give that a try
I'm just stalling and goofing off until "that" day arrives
