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foxal

@sinosoidal said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
@sinosoidal wow, great! Is this in beta phase?

Not yet.

But if you want to be in beta, I can put you and once there is news you will be aware right away.

Ad me please! I'm using VS for my jams, all midi mapped (request - load next movie/ background file with midi command ) As I wrote above I'm using only one material / shader bit-for- bit (mapped to snare/clap - very classy!!!), and many (my own) backgrounds (movies)..
I see I can use two layers with the same material but that works not as expected if I remember good. So there is a room for further VS testing and not alternatives. Anyway love VS "as is" and yours other apps! Thank you for your work!

lukesleepwalker

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

GOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLL!

sinosoidal

@lukesleepwalker said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

GOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLL!

VS 1.3.0 with Material Editor is currently available for testing on TestFlight

Gravitas

@sinosoidal said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

GOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLL!

VS 1.3.0 with Material Editor is currently available for testing on TestFlight

Yeah, noticed that.

Nice one.

Fingolfinzz

Very excited for this, I’m about to check it out now

Krupa

@sinosoidal said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

GOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLL!

VS 1.3.0 with Material Editor is currently available for testing on TestFlight

That’s the kind of news that can make me forget deadlines 😂

jonmoore

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

Will the material editor allow GLSL style control in much the same manner as Shadertoy?

Edward_Alexander

Woah cool!

sinosoidal

Who has given a spin to the mateiral editor? There are still a lot of details to polish but I would love to hear how was your initial experience.

cuberoo_

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

Will the material editor allow GLSL style control in much the same manner as Shadertoy?

+1

sinosoidal

@cuberoo_ said:

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

Will the material editor allow GLSL style control in much the same manner as Shadertoy?

+1

What do you mean by style control? Can you please elaborate?

NimboStratus

Can you copy shader toy code to the editor? Would be nice if you could import code ta

sinosoidal

@NimboStratus said:
Can you copy shader toy code to the editor? Would be nice if you could import code ta

There is a import button at the top of the material browser. The file must have a .frag extension. But don't expect it to work right way. You will need to adapt the code. This implies some previous shader writing experience.

How many here have dived into shader writing? I can tell you i'm a newbie in what relates with shader writing. I know the basic stuff.

jonmoore

@sinosoidal said:

@cuberoo_ said:

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

Will the material editor allow GLSL style control in much the same manner as Shadertoy?

+1

What do you mean by style control? Can you please elaborate?

All I meant by that was live feedback as you write your shader.

I wouldn’t classify myself as a skilled shader writer but got into shader writing via VEX (which in turn is based on RSL, Pixar’s RenderMan Shading Language) in Houdini (the 3d DCC).

There’s a wealth of resources online for Shadertoy, as all you need is your web browser to get started. And the Shadertoy archive is full of inspiring code fragments.

Whilst cut/paste workflows from Shadertoy to Visual Synth may not be possible right now, the Shadertoy API is completely open-source so it would be great to see it added in the future. There are already a few Shadertoy viewer apps on the App Store, the best and most current is this.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/shadertoy-viewer/id1595439881

Details on the API can be found here.

https://www.shadertoy.com/howto

jonmoore

It’s worth taking a look at TouchDesigner for inspiration too. The folk behind TouchDesigner were once part SideFX the company behind Houdini, but in the early days of Houdini, Derivative split off to focus on proceduralism for real-time use cases. In recent years they’ve built GLSL tools into TouchDesigner.

https://derivative.ca/

sinosoidal

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@cuberoo_ said:

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

Will the material editor allow GLSL style control in much the same manner as Shadertoy?

+1

What do you mean by style control? Can you please elaborate?

All I meant by that was live feedback as you write your shader.

I wouldn’t classify myself as a skilled shader writer but got into shader writing via VEX (which in turn is based on RSL, Pixar’s RenderMan Shading Language) in Houdini (the 3d DCC).

There’s a wealth of resources online for Shadertoy, as all you need is your web browser to get started. And the Shadertoy archive is full of inspiring code fragments.

Whilst cut/paste workflows from Shadertoy to Visual Synth may not be possible right now, the Shadertoy API is completely open-source so it would be great to see it added in the future. There are already a few Shadertoy viewer apps on the App Store, the best and most current is this.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/shadertoy-viewer/id1595439881

Details on the API can be found here.

https://www.shadertoy.com/howto

Yes, there is live preview as you code. Are you in the TestFlight?

jonmoore

And whilst I’m sharing. One of the best resources for learning real-time computer graphics is here.

https://iquilezles.org/

Inigo Quilez is the co-creator of Shadertoy, and his Patreon is approx $2 a month for access to some really great resources. He's also created a really cool new site called https://graphtoy.com/ for graphing and designing mathematical functions (which is at the foundation of many procedural graphics endeavors).

jonmoore

@sinosoidal said:

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@cuberoo_ said:

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@foxal said:
more materials? maybe sold as IAP’s? It’s a matter of taste, but currently i’m using only one - bit-for-bit - so VS is not real tool for me (eg for live visuals on gigs) . But I love simplicity and power of VS. I’m dreaming about shaders / materials like shadertoys

We are working on a material editor so you can create your own materials or modify existent

Will the material editor allow GLSL style control in much the same manner as Shadertoy?

+1

What do you mean by style control? Can you please elaborate?

All I meant by that was live feedback as you write your shader.

I wouldn’t classify myself as a skilled shader writer but got into shader writing via VEX (which in turn is based on RSL, Pixar’s RenderMan Shading Language) in Houdini (the 3d DCC).

There’s a wealth of resources online for Shadertoy, as all you need is your web browser to get started. And the Shadertoy archive is full of inspiring code fragments.

Whilst cut/paste workflows from Shadertoy to Visual Synth may not be possible right now, the Shadertoy API is completely open-source so it would be great to see it added in the future. There are already a few Shadertoy viewer apps on the App Store, the best and most current is this.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/shadertoy-viewer/id1595439881

Details on the API can be found here.

https://www.shadertoy.com/howto

Yes, there is live preview as you code. Are you in the TestFlight?

No, PM me the details. More than happy to feedback.

sinosoidal

@jonmoore said:
And whilst I’m sharing. One of the best resources for learning real-time computer graphics is here.

https://iquilezles.org/

Inigo Quilez is the co-creator of Shadertoy, and his Patreon is approx $2 a month for access to some really great resources. He's also created a really cool new site called https://graphtoy.com/ for graphing and designing mathematical functions (which is at the foundation of many procedural graphics endeavors).

Shader writing is a very complex theme. That's why being a shader programmer is a carreer by its own.

I know the work of Inigo. His work is amazing. He has a YouTube channel too -> https://www.youtube.com/c/InigoQuilez

jonmoore

@sinosoidal said:

@jonmoore said:
And whilst I’m sharing. One of the best resources for learning real-time computer graphics is here.

https://iquilezles.org/

Inigo Quilez is the co-creator of Shadertoy, and his Patreon is approx $2 a month for access to some really great resources. He's also created a really cool new site called https://graphtoy.com/ for graphing and designing mathematical functions (which is at the foundation of many procedural graphics endeavors).

Shader writing is a very complex theme. That's why being a shader programmer is a carreer by its own.

I know the work of Inigo. His work is amazing. He has a YouTube channel too -> https://www.youtube.com/c/InigoQuilez

Shader writing is indeed a complex area. I only regard my own meagre efforts as hacks based on others mathematical genius!

Have you taken a look at KodeLife? It’s from the same folk that created TouchOSC. I came across it just now by happenstance as I was upgrading to the new version of TouchOSC.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/kodelife/id1569922579

It looks interesting. Once I’ve had a chance to check out the material editor in VS, I might do a compare.

cuberoo_

@sinosoidal said:

@NimboStratus said:
Can you copy shader toy code to the editor? Would be nice if you could import code ta

There is a import button at the top of the material browser. The file must have a .frag extension. But don't expect it to work right way. You will need to adapt the code. This implies some previous shader writing experience.

How many here have dived into shader writing? I can tell you i'm a newbie in what relates with shader writing. I know the basic stuff.

This sounds pretty great to me. I have quite a bit of experience writing pixel and compute shaders so hopefully should be able to have fun.

Fingolfinzz

I’ve messed around a bit with editing the existing ones but really don’t have any skills with writing them. I’m seeing what I can learn in the meantime but I’ll need to brush up on some math. I haven’t run across any issues from editing the templates though so far

sinosoidal

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@jonmoore said:
And whilst I’m sharing. One of the best resources for learning real-time computer graphics is here.

https://iquilezles.org/

Inigo Quilez is the co-creator of Shadertoy, and his Patreon is approx $2 a month for access to some really great resources. He's also created a really cool new site called https://graphtoy.com/ for graphing and designing mathematical functions (which is at the foundation of many procedural graphics endeavors).

Shader writing is a very complex theme. That's why being a shader programmer is a carreer by its own.

I know the work of Inigo. His work is amazing. He has a YouTube channel too -> https://www.youtube.com/c/InigoQuilez

Shader writing is indeed a complex area. I only regard my own meagre efforts as hacks based on others mathematical genius!

Have you taken a look at KodeLife? It’s from the same folk that created TouchOSC. I came across it just now by happenstance as I was upgrading to the new version of TouchOSC.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/kodelife/id1569922579

It looks interesting. Once I’ve had a chance to check out the material editor in VS, I might do a compare.

KodeLife is a dedicated shader composing tool. We are not aiming to compete in that field. I guess advanced users will prefer to code in such tools and then adapt the code to fit in VS.

jonmoore

@sinosoidal said:

@jonmoore said:

@sinosoidal said:

@jonmoore said:
And whilst I’m sharing. One of the best resources for learning real-time computer graphics is here.

https://iquilezles.org/

Inigo Quilez is the co-creator of Shadertoy, and his Patreon is approx $2 a month for access to some really great resources. He's also created a really cool new site called https://graphtoy.com/ for graphing and designing mathematical functions (which is at the foundation of many procedural graphics endeavors).

Shader writing is a very complex theme. That's why being a shader programmer is a carreer by its own.

I know the work of Inigo. His work is amazing. He has a YouTube channel too -> https://www.youtube.com/c/InigoQuilez

Shader writing is indeed a complex area. I only regard my own meagre efforts as hacks based on others mathematical genius!

Have you taken a look at KodeLife? It’s from the same folk that created TouchOSC. I came across it just now by happenstance as I was upgrading to the new version of TouchOSC.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/kodelife/id1569922579

It looks interesting. Once I’ve had a chance to check out the material editor in VS, I might do a compare.

KodeLife is a dedicated shader composing tool. We are not aiming to compete in that field. I guess advanced users will prefer to code in such tools and then adapt the code to fit in VS.

And that's exactly how I've been using it this afternoon. It's a great partner to VS as it has robust error checking and code completion. It's also very good value on iOS and a single license covers all desktop OS's.

I think Hexler has optimized it for live coding shenanigans but I hope it develops further as an IDE for real-time graphics.

Already having great fun with the beta!

jonmoore

@sinosoidal Just wondering if you spotted the last couple of PM's I sent you.

sinosoidal

@jonmoore said:
@sinosoidal Just wondering if you spotted the last couple of PM's I sent you.

Yes, just didn't had the time to reply. Sorry!

jonmoore

@sinosoidal said:

@jonmoore said:
@sinosoidal Just wondering if you spotted the last couple of PM's I sent you.

Yes, just didn't had the time to reply. Sorry!

Ok, when you get a chance, much appreciated and all that jazz

sinosoidal

Regarding material editing. I dont know how many of you are familiar with sites like glslsandbox and shadertoy, but this sites inject variable declarations in the code, that you wont see declared. We do the same for all variables that are common for all the materials:

uniform highp float time;
uniform highp float opacity;
uniform highp float alpha;
uniform highp vec4 color;
uniform highp vec2 resolution;
varying highp vec2 texCoord;

And if the manifest has parameters (eg: glow, noise), the parameters names will be variables as well:

uniform highp float glow;
uniform highp float noise;

This approach aims for a standardized format. It can however be a bit shady for starters or for people who want to move the code from and to shader editors like KodeLife.

NimboStratus

So is there a way/process to save and import code from Shadertoy etc?

sinosoidal

@NimboStratus said:
So is there a way/process to save and import code from Shadertoy etc?

Yes, sure! But it will not work by simply copying/pasting without manual adjustments. I want to do a video tutorial on the topic after the release.