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Released: ToneBoosters Flowtones - virtual analog synthesizer

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  • @DJB said:

    @craftycurate said:

    Got it - thanks again for your responsiveness :)

    No worries :-) Just wondering if auto capitalization would solve this (if you would enter 'bass' as new category, library or patch name it would auto capitalize to 'Bass').

    That would be fine!

  • @DukeWonder said:

    @DJB said:

    @DukeWonder said:
    @DJB my apologies if this has already been answered. Is there a way to hide the app keyboard when using as an AU?

    Yes the keyboard will disappear automatically if you change the aspect ratio to be wider. This only works on iPad though.

    Any plans to fix this for the iPhone? It makes the app pretty unpleasant to use as an AU because it makes the rest of the controls smaller than necessary

    @DJB bumping since I haven’t seen a reply

  • @DukeWonder said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DJB said:

    @DukeWonder said:
    @DJB my apologies if this has already been answered. Is there a way to hide the app keyboard when using as an AU?

    Yes the keyboard will disappear automatically if you change the aspect ratio to be wider. This only works on iPad though.

    Any plans to fix this for the iPhone? It makes the app pretty unpleasant to use as an AU because it makes the rest of the controls smaller than necessary

    @DJB bumping since I haven’t seen a reply

    Yeah @DJB - you've had 48 hours and you still haven't responded!

    :wink:

  • @gusgranite said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DJB said:

    @DukeWonder said:
    @DJB my apologies if this has already been answered. Is there a way to hide the app keyboard when using as an AU?

    Yes the keyboard will disappear automatically if you change the aspect ratio to be wider. This only works on iPad though.

    Any plans to fix this for the iPhone? It makes the app pretty unpleasant to use as an AU because it makes the rest of the controls smaller than necessary

    @DJB bumping since I haven’t seen a reply

    Yeah @DJB - you've had 48 hours and you still haven't responded!

    :wink:

    Sorry - too busy fixing this ;-)

  • @gusgranite said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DJB said:

    @DukeWonder said:
    @DJB my apologies if this has already been answered. Is there a way to hide the app keyboard when using as an AU?

    Yes the keyboard will disappear automatically if you change the aspect ratio to be wider. This only works on iPad though.

    Any plans to fix this for the iPhone? It makes the app pretty unpleasant to use as an AU because it makes the rest of the controls smaller than necessary

    @DJB bumping since I haven’t seen a reply

    Yeah @DJB - you've had 48 hours and you still haven't responded!

    :wink:

    @DJB said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DukeWonder said:

    @DJB said:

    @DukeWonder said:
    @DJB my apologies if this has already been answered. Is there a way to hide the app keyboard when using as an AU?

    Yes the keyboard will disappear automatically if you change the aspect ratio to be wider. This only works on iPad though.

    Any plans to fix this for the iPhone? It makes the app pretty unpleasant to use as an AU because it makes the rest of the controls smaller than necessary

    @DJB bumping since I haven’t seen a reply

    Yeah @DJB - you've had 48 hours and you still haven't responded!

    :wink:

    Sorry - too busy fixing this ;-)

    My usual assumption is that, if someone replies to someone else after I tagged them and they don’t reply, they didn’t see it.

  • @DJB

    Today I noticed the sequencer window is glitching out when I move notes on both my 5th and my 6th Generation Base iPads, each is running iPadOS 14.8 .

    Note it's much worse on the Gen 5 iPad than it is on the Gen 6.

    The good news is the keyboard flash issue is gone on my 6th Gen iPad.
    Although it still persists to a degree on my 5th Gen iPad.

    Video below was made on my 5th Gen iPad.

  • edited September 2021

    Hey @DJB ... hope you are well.

    I’ve noticed a couple of things with Flowtones 1.1.2 on iOS 13.6.1

    1. LFO1 speed isn’t a modulation target, though LFO 2, 3 and 4 are. Is this intended?
    2. I have to slide my finger quite a distance vertically on screen to adjust a rotary knob between its max and min values. Seems all the knobs are like this. On my 10.5” iPad Pro 2017, I have to slide about 1/2 of the screen distance vertically in landscape mode to move from min to max value or vice versa.
  • @craftycurate said:
    Hey @DJB ... hope you are well.

    I’ve noticed a couple of things with Flowtones 1.1.2 on iOS 13.6.1

    1. LFO1 speed isn’t a modulation target, though LFO 2, 3 and 4 are. Is this intended?
    2. I have to slide my finger quite a distance vertically on screen to adjust a rotary knob between its max and min values. Seems all the knobs are like this. On my 10.5” iPad Pro 2017, I have to slide about 1/2 of the screen distance vertically in landscape mode to move from min to max value or vice versa.

    Thanks @craftycurate for the feedback. On the LFO speed modulation: every LFO is the same and can function as source or target to modulate the speed of itself or any of the other LFOs. What could be happening is that you've set up LFO1 in host follow mode. In that case, the LFO phase is fully dictated by the host timeline and to ensure that that LFO stays in sync with the host at all times, speed modulation is disabled for that particular LFO.

  • edited September 2021

    @DJB said:

    @craftycurate said:
    Hey @DJB ... hope you are well.

    I’ve noticed a couple of things with Flowtones 1.1.2 on iOS 13.6.1

    1. LFO1 speed isn’t a modulation target, though LFO 2, 3 and 4 are. Is this intended?
    2. I have to slide my finger quite a distance vertically on screen to adjust a rotary knob between its max and min values. Seems all the knobs are like this. On my 10.5” iPad Pro 2017, I have to slide about 1/2 of the screen distance vertically in landscape mode to move from min to max value or vice versa.

    Thanks @craftycurate for the feedback. On the LFO speed modulation: every LFO is the same and can function as source or target to modulate the speed of itself or any of the other LFOs. What could be happening is that you've set up LFO1 in host follow mode. In that case, the LFO phase is fully dictated by the host timeline and to ensure that that LFO stays in sync with the host at all times, speed modulation is disabled for that particular LFO.

    @DJB, just to let you know… on your web site page which has the YouTube demonstration videos, six of them are either no longer available or they do not work. Just letting you know.

    And, apropos of nothing, do you offer a bundle for macOS (desktop)? If not, I understand, but I thought I should ask.

  • @DJB, just to let you know… on your web site page which has the YouTube demonstration videos, six of them are either no longer available or they do not work. Just letting you know.

    Thanks! time to curate that list :-)

  • @DJB said:

    @craftycurate said:
    Hey @DJB ... hope you are well.

    I’ve noticed a couple of things with Flowtones 1.1.2 on iOS 13.6.1

    1. LFO1 speed isn’t a modulation target, though LFO 2, 3 and 4 are. Is this intended?
    2. I have to slide my finger quite a distance vertically on screen to adjust a rotary knob between its max and min values. Seems all the knobs are like this. On my 10.5” iPad Pro 2017, I have to slide about 1/2 of the screen distance vertically in landscape mode to move from min to max value or vice versa.

    Thanks @craftycurate for the feedback. On the LFO speed modulation: every LFO is the same and can function as source or target to modulate the speed of itself or any of the other LFOs. What could be happening is that you've set up LFO1 in host follow mode. In that case, the LFO phase is fully dictated by the host timeline and to ensure that that LFO stays in sync with the host at all times, speed modulation is disabled for that particular LFO.

    Got it thanks - that’s what it is.

    I did notice though that when deactivating LFO host follow mode, the currently displayed LFO only becomes available as a modulation target after switching to another LFO then switching back.

  • @DJB said:

    @DJB, just to let you know… on your web site page which has the YouTube demonstration videos, six of them are either no longer available or they do not work. Just letting you know.

    Thanks! time to curate that list :-)

    👍

  • edited September 2021

    @DJB Thanks for the update.

    Must confess I’m not sure what the new modulation pin functionality is?

    I have found a reproducible issue with the new double tap to edit category functionality.

    1. Open Browser
    2. Double tap on the category of a factory patch > “Factory libraries cannot be edited” error message
    3. Double tap on the category of a non-factory patch
    4. Delete the category name and tap somewhere else to attempt to save that value
    5. The “Factory libraries ...” error appears, even though I’m editing a non-factory patch. It doesn’t appear if a new category name is entered.
  • @DJB I don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but the corner radius of all ToneBoosters icons seem like they’re a fraction too small, with a tiny sliver of a white background showing through:

    I guess this might also be a kind of skeuomorphic shiny metallic glint, but to me it just looks like a bug.

    Love this synth, tho!

  • I didn’t think I’d like this synth, but the gushing reviews tempted me. Thought maybe I was missing out on something. NOPE! Sucky synth with tons of been-there-done-that arpeggiated crap. Prickly digital sounds that grate my ears. Bleck. Just not my cup of tea, I guess. Will probably seek a refund.

  • @brenner13 said:
    I didn’t think I’d like this synth, but the gushing reviews tempted me. Thought maybe I was missing out on something. NOPE! Sucky synth with tons of been-there-done-that arpeggiated crap. Prickly digital sounds that grate my ears. Bleck. Just not my cup of tea, I guess. Will probably seek a refund.

    You know, you could’ve just gone to YouTube and heard what it sounds like beforehand. This is a thing.

  • @brenner13 said:
    I didn’t think I’d like this synth, but the gushing reviews tempted me. Thought maybe I was missing out on something. NOPE! Sucky synth with tons of been-there-done-that arpeggiated crap. Prickly digital sounds that grate my ears. Bleck. Just not my cup of tea, I guess. Will probably seek a refund.

    Which iOS synth is your favorite?

  • Okay, rolled a few of my own sounds…the dang thing can be very lush and creamy, too. Pretty good UI. A little more time with it and perhaps it can be a useful tool. Diving back in.

  • @brenner13 said:
    Okay, rolled a few of my own sounds…the dang thing can be very lush and creamy, too. Pretty good UI. A little more time with it and perhaps it can be a useful tool. Diving back in.

    I found that Flowtones doesn't program as someone familiar with programing subtractive synths might expect. But it provides alternate ways to achieve similar categories of sounds. It's a synth with it's own character, and that's what I like about it. I think it's fun to program, but I had to get the hang of it first.

  • Flowtones rewards those who explore it

  • @Fingolfinzz said:
    Flowtones rewards those who explore it

    Exactly. It's not like other synths.

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  • @BCKeys said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Flowtones rewards those who explore it

    Exactly. It's not like other synths.

    All synths are unique, what would makes Flowtones more different?

    Check out a couple of YouTube videos on Flowtones and you'll see.

  • @brenner13 Now that you've pointed it out, I realize that I agree with both of your statements about the sound engine.

    "Prickly and grating" = sharpness in the high end frequencies, and unexpected fluctuations in amplitude, from the nonlinearity modeling.
    "Lush and creamy" = very low aliasing, digitally smooth filters, excellent reverb.

    Try enabling the "Eco" setting under the "Out" tab, and see if you like that better.
    I asked ToneBoosters in an email, if they could reduce the effect, and provide an option to turn it off completely. Would that be useful for you?

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  • Flowtones is unique ... I'm finding it can be both rich and warm, but also sharp and metallic, and I definitely prefer the former.

    I like it, but am yet to love it, the way I love SB Factory and Aparillo, for example, whose sounds regularly delight me. But the presets for both of these didn't do it justice, and it's only by digging deep that I've got to a point where I can tame them more easily and get much better sounding presets, and suspect Flowtones is the same i.e. it needs an investment of time to get it sounding the way I want, which it seems capable of, from some of the presets and randomly generated sounds.

    The randomiser is one of the best I've come across and it creates some useful and unique sounds, though the without a modulation matrix, it takes a while to track down exactly what is modulating what.

    The sequencer is the least useful aspect of it for me - how I wish it was an arpeggiator, and I dislike many of the trancey, sequenced presets, but I can just ignore that and focus on sound design.

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  • Here are some things you can do to make a preset sound more traditional.
    Try it with the "Cinematographic Strings" preset.

    1. Double tap VCO Unison to reset it to 0%
    2. Set the PWM knob to the position of a simpler waveform
    3. Change the waveform from its half/split variant to "full"
    4. Set VCA Type to LP 6dB/oct, adjust Cutoff to your liking
    5. Double tap VCA Drive to reset it to 0%
    6. Ensure that Q is sufficiently low
    7. Drag up on VCA Mix to set it to 100%
    8. In the Mod/FX tab, turn off Chorus
    9. In the Out tab, turn off VCA Cap and Limiter
    10. In the Out tab, turn on Eco Mode
    11. Revisit Steps 1, 2, and 3. Set these knobs to your liking.

    And you're done! Now you've got a smooth, cinematic sound.

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