Loopy Pro: Limited public beta now open

Samu

@lukesleepwalker said:

The FX line up along the bottom so you can easily launch into them:

Cool screenshot. Do the 'labels' rotate with the loops?
(That would be a cool but totally unnecessary animation )

And another totally crazy but cool feature would be to be able to 'scratch the discs', connect a slider to a mute/crossfade function for transformer/gate effects etc. etc.

Too easy to come up with feature-creep, that's for sure...

LostInFoundation

@lukesleepwalker said:

The FX line up along the bottom so you can easily launch into them:

Oh yes…the fx part is also very good…
In these pictures you can see many things

…from how you can see UI as you want (very small to just keep an eye on it or very big to use them)
…to how you can open many instances of an fx and point them to different tracks, so you can turn on (in this case) the reverb on some tracks when you need it there and then turn it off on these tracks to turn it on on others (naturally also with different settings, if you need so)…you can see it from the different colors on the bottom of every reverb instance

Edward_Alexander

Why would that receive flak lol

Edward_Alexander

@LostInFoundation said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@LostInFoundation said:
Believe me…I own a Boss RC 505 (which IS fantastic) but at 400+ bucks, it doesn’t have a fraction of the abilities that Loopy Pro puts at your fingertips

@Gravitas said:
@LostInFoundation

A question,
It will most probably receive flack but it’s a genuine question.

Using a midi foot controller, is it possible to hit record,
it starts recording at the beginning of the bar and
with the second press it stops recording and immediately loops.
The next midi press clears the loop and starts recording at the next bar.

The humble Audiokit L7 had this ability but is incredibly unstable.

This is what I’m on board about. Creating the ultimate 505 killer with Loopy Pro, and my trusty BlueBoard. Can’t wait to be able to do some “Live Looping”!

Well…”just” a BlueBoard will not be enough…you know, 4 buttons vs many more and sliders in the 505…and too many possibilities in Loopy Pro to force them in just 4 buttons…

Unless you also use your hands on the screen and learn to play your instruments Hendrix style with your teeth (but even if possible with a guitar, I can foresee some problems learning teeth piano playing or teeth congas action 😉)

@Gravitas said:

@LostInFoundation said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@LostInFoundation said:
Believe me…I own a Boss RC 505 (which IS fantastic) but at 400+ bucks, it doesn’t have a fraction of the abilities that Loopy Pro puts at your fingertips

@Gravitas said:
@LostInFoundation

A question,
It will most probably receive flack but it’s a genuine question.

Using a midi foot controller, is it possible to hit record,
it starts recording at the beginning of the bar and
with the second press it stops recording and immediately loops.
The next midi press clears the loop and starts recording at the next bar.

The humble Audiokit L7 had this ability but is incredibly unstable.

This is what I’m on board about. Creating the ultimate 505 killer with Loopy Pro, and my trusty BlueBoard. Can’t wait to be able to do some “Live Looping”!

Well…”just” a BlueBoard will not be enough…you know, 4 buttons vs many more and sliders in the 505…and too many possibilities in Loopy Pro to force them in just 4 buttons…

Unless you also use your hands on the screen and learn to play your instruments Hendrix style with your teeth (but even if possible with a guitar, I can foresee some problems learning teeth piano playing or teeth congas action 😉)

Though @Edward_Alexander has a Blueboard, he also has an LP X which
can provide enough buttons especially combined with the custom modes.

I also have a similar rig, instead of the Blueboard I have a Line 6 FBV Express mkii

My use case if you’re curious? I will be using the FBV mkii for when I’m recording
bass, guitars and various percussion and the LP X will be for when I’m recording vocals.
Combined with the LC XL I think that would be more than enough.

Oh yeah, just a small correction, I actually have the Launchpad Pro MK3 😊👍

LostInFoundation

@Edward_Alexander said:

Oh yeah, just a small correction, I actually have the Launchpad Pro MK3 😊👍

We are all gear addicted…my “small” studio at home decided to move the “small” attribute to my bank account to grow bigger and bigger (if this sentence has a meaning in English 😂)

The dog was for free, luckily 😉

RajahP

@LostInFoundation said:
Does it look familiar? 😉

Yep... It looks like my Maschine Jam.... Will love to see it in Action...

supadom

@Samu said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

The FX line up along the bottom so you can easily launch into them:

Cool screenshot. Do the 'labels' rotate with the loops?
(That would be a cool but totally unnecessary animation )

Do your eyes rotate when looking at loops? 😮

Gravitas

@Edward_Alexander said:

Oh yeah, just a small correction, I actually have the Launchpad Pro MK3 😊👍

Skids to a halt, opps….
Picks up speed again…😁👍🏾

Samu

@supadom said:

Do your eyes rotate when looking at loops? 😮

When they are on a turn-table they do...
...gotta catch the 'marker tape'

LostInFoundation

@RajahP said:

Yep... It looks like my Maschine Jam.... Will love to see it in Action...

Unluckily, I don’t think it’s gonna be possible…as I said, Native Instruments has a strange concept of midi implementation…
This was more a gymmic for my fun

echoopera

@Michael said:
In other news, fuckit, added a setting to Settings app:

You rock sir 👊🏼™️

mccy

@lukesleepwalker said:

@mccy said:
Is there a way to open effect chains (directly from the main screen) with the guis of the plug-in, like when you create them? it’s crazy, when you open proQ3 with all those parameters as faders… graphical Uis make sense sometimes ;-)

is there a way to take Instruments from CPU/turning them off? Even from the mainscreen?

Is it possible to mute inputs from the mainscreen? This is so important when you deal with multiple Instruments… Muting from the settings window crackles, as it turns off the input completely. A mute would be enough.

The FX line up along the bottom so you can easily launch into them:

No, the effect chains open without the FX GUIs, which is as I said very complicated when having a proQ3 in the chain. Or can I activate the GUI view which I have when creating the chains?

Edward_Alexander

@LostInFoundation said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

Oh yeah, just a small correction, I actually have the Launchpad Pro MK3 😊👍

We are all gear addicted…my “small” studio at home decided to move the “small” attribute to my bank account to grow bigger and bigger (if this sentence has a meaning in English 😂)

The dog was for free, luckily 😉

Holy crap that’s awesome! Looks like MY kind of room! (I’d love to play with that electric cello omg!)

@echoopera said:

@Michael said:
In other news, fuckit, added a setting to Settings app:

You rock sir 👊🏼™️

This!^^^

lukesleepwalker

@mccy said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@mccy said:
Is there a way to open effect chains (directly from the main screen) with the guis of the plug-in, like when you create them? it’s crazy, when you open proQ3 with all those parameters as faders… graphical Uis make sense sometimes ;-)

is there a way to take Instruments from CPU/turning them off? Even from the mainscreen?

Is it possible to mute inputs from the mainscreen? This is so important when you deal with multiple Instruments… Muting from the settings window crackles, as it turns off the input completely. A mute would be enough.

The FX line up along the bottom so you can easily launch into them:

No, the effect chains open without the FX GUIs, which is as I said very complicated when having a proQ3 in the chain. Or can I activate the GUI view which I have when creating the chains?

Not sure what you are asking. You mean like this?

You can easily save chains, copy them and edit, retrieve and apply to another color group etc.

mccy

sorry, something wrong with my handy.

mccy

@lukesleepwalker said:

@mccy said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@mccy said:
Is there a way to open effect chains (directly from the main screen) with the guis of the plug-in, like when you create them? it’s crazy, when you open proQ3 with all those parameters as faders… graphical Uis make sense sometimes ;-)

is there a way to take Instruments from CPU/turning them off? Even from the mainscreen?

Is it possible to mute inputs from the mainscreen? This is so important when you deal with multiple Instruments… Muting from the settings window crackles, as it turns off the input completely. A mute would be enough.

The FX line up along the bottom so you can easily launch into them:

No, the effect chains open without the FX GUIs, which is as I said very complicated when having a proQ3 in the chain. Or can I activate the GUI view which I have when creating the chains?

Not sure what you are asking. You mean like this?

You can easily save chains, copy them and edit, retrieve and apply to another color group etc.

I'm talking about workflow. When I open the effect chain from the bottom of the main window ALL controls in the chain are shown, not the GUIs. Much too much values... I have to scroll through pages of values
Yes I can get the GUIs with entering that Chain edit window, but that is completely off workflow.
The EQ I'm using shows more than 30, probably 60 values, so a GUI makes much more sense. For me all is about how can I control Loopy with as few clicks as possible, so when I want so change a patameter in the effects chain ai want to open it (the visual arrangement of the effects) with one click (as it is now possible to view all paramteres in the chain with one click). In a live sitiation I play multiple instruments and complex things are happening, so all I want is fast control over effects. Yes, of course I can take the paramters which I want to control live directly on the main surface, but that makes no sense with an EQ. There should just be a button for Chain arrangement with GUIs as it is possible with single effects.

mccy

I'm talking about this view. That makes much sense to me. But I have to go in deeper menues for that. Just a button (like it is with single effects) to change from parameters to this look would be perfect.

And wouldnt it make sense to edit the colours too, when opening the chain with one click?

lukesleepwalker

@mccy said:


I'm talking about this view. That makes much sense to me. But I have to go in deeper menues for that. Just a button (like it is with single effects) to change from parameters to this look would be perfect.

And wouldnt it make sense to edit the colours too, when opening the chain with one click?

Ah yes, there are a couple of useful menus that seem to be three layers deep and it feels like a lot of “option diving”. Mentioned it to Michael but i can see the UX conundrum of intuitive vs powerful. Perhaps a widget button could launch the GUI of choice?

I still think designing a control surface could be easier live.

sclurbs

The only thing I want in an ipad auv3 looper is an option to match global bpm to my first loop scene. Like I can do with my RC505 loopstation. Being locked in to the bpm before you start performing your loop is an absolute groove killer and I don't know why more people are ok with loopers without this (in my opinion) vital feature. Maybe they just don't know what they're missing out on because it's such a rare feature. To me, it's the lifeblood of a looper and a looper is literally lifeless without it. It's so easy for me to make perfect live loops on the fly when I listen to community radio (or playing along with marc rebillet streams) and that would not be possible if I didn't have the match bpm feature and was instead fighting with pre setting the bpm perfectly before trying to start a loop -- the song would be over

can anyone in the beta confirm if this has a match bpm to first scene feature?

sloJordan

@sclurbs said:
The only thing I want in an ipad auv3 looper is an option to match global bpm to my first loop scene. Like I can do with my RC505 loopstation. Being locked in to the bpm before you start performing your loop is an absolute groove killer and I don't know why more people are ok with loopers without this (in my opinion) vital feature. Maybe they just don't know what they're missing out on because it's such a rare feature. To me, it's the lifeblood of a looper and a looper is literally lifeless without it. It's so easy for me to make perfect live loops on the fly when I listen to community radio (or playing along with marc rebillet streams) and that would not be possible if I didn't have the match bpm feature and was instead fighting with pre setting the bpm perfectly before trying to start a loop -- the song would be over

can anyone in the beta confirm if this has a match bpm to first scene feature?

not exactly sure about a match bpm feature the way i think you are describing, but loopy definitely can auto-dectect the bpm of the first loop you record. you don't need to set the tempo in advance. Gets a little more complicated if the meter is not 4/4, i think michael was saying for rare meters you can set that in advance and the tempo will use it when auto detecting.

celtic_elk

@sloJordan said:

@sclurbs said:
The only thing I want in an ipad auv3 looper is an option to match global bpm to my first loop scene. Like I can do with my RC505 loopstation. Being locked in to the bpm before you start performing your loop is an absolute groove killer and I don't know why more people are ok with loopers without this (in my opinion) vital feature. Maybe they just don't know what they're missing out on because it's such a rare feature. To me, it's the lifeblood of a looper and a looper is literally lifeless without it. It's so easy for me to make perfect live loops on the fly when I listen to community radio (or playing along with marc rebillet streams) and that would not be possible if I didn't have the match bpm feature and was instead fighting with pre setting the bpm perfectly before trying to start a loop -- the song would be over

can anyone in the beta confirm if this has a match bpm to first scene feature?

not exactly sure about a match bpm feature the way i think you are describing, but loopy definitely can auto-dectect the bpm of the first loop you record. you don't need to set the tempo in advance. Gets a little more complicated if the meter is not 4/4, i think michael was saying for rare meters you can set that in advance and the tempo will use it when auto detecting.

I think "auv3" is an important part of @sclurbs question. I was under the impression that plug-ins don’t get to communicate tempo changes to hosts, but I’ve been wrong before.

wim

@Michael said:
Well…”just” a BlueBoard will not be enough…you know, 4 buttons vs many more and sliders in the 505…and too many possibilities in Loopy Pro to force them in just 4 buttons…

There's a nice StreamByter script that multiplies the options by detecting different types of tap and hold combinations. I think there's something like 9 tap types per button. It's called Blue Velvet.

I wrote a Mozaic equivalent but haven't bothered to publish it as it's no different in functionality than the StreamByter script. I also wrote a script that can send multiple actions from each Blue Velvet output for someone. I was going to extend and publish that one, but it seems that with Actions in Loopy Pro I won't need to bother.

Anyway ... Blue Velvet - super good for getting more mileage out of the BlueBoard ... provided you have the tap-dancing chops.

wim

@jonmoore said:

@Michael said:
In other news, fuckit, added a setting to Settings app:

Liking your style!

I think we need a way to customize that slider. A well designed glow effect adjustment slider can mean the difference between transformative musical inspiration and total creative buzz kill.

celtic_elk

@wim said:

@jonmoore said:

@Michael said:
In other news, fuckit, added a setting to Settings app:

Liking your style!

I think we need a way to customize that slider. A well designed glow effect adjustment slider can mean the difference between transformative musical inspiration and total creative buzz kill.

Yeah, but people have such different performance preferences for glow effect adjustment sliders, you know?

mccy

Anybody found, where to adjust (digital) input volume? With RME babyface or internal no problem, but now I test Behringer UMC and input is too low. AUM is fixed to 75% input gain when started parallell and at that value is also very quiet.
With Loopy Pro inside AUM as AUV3 no problem. Just standalone problem that it sets input gain low :-(

And no, the fader with the Monitoring switch (headphone) is not the input gain. When setting AUM input gain to 100% it is much louder with less noise than loopys +24db. There is something wrong.

And no, it is not only set analog on the umc202 ios somehow has that digital input gain thing :-(.

When I start audiobus first its as silent as loopy, then I look at the input gain and it is at 100%, then I move the fader up and down and the signal gets finally loud!! When I start loopy again, the input signal (from audiobus) gets lower again.

robosardine

I think the thread title should be changed now to ‘closed’ - because is, or the thread should be closed and another one opened for those who it matters to.

Gravitas

@Edward_Alexander said:
Why would that receive flak lol

I don’t know.
I’m just being “cautious”.
You know ,’don’t bite my hand off I’m actually friendly”….
Lolololol….

espiegel123

I don't know if people noticed, but Michael has asked that beta feedback be posted on the Loopy Pro slack channel in the Loopy Pro beta forum. Links to those are available from inside the Loopy Pro beta. Tap on the Folder icon in Loopy Pro and tap on the Beta button to get to a page that has those links.

mccy

@espiegel123 said:
I don't know if people noticed, but Michael has asked that beta feedback be posted on the Loopy Pro slack channel in the Loopy Pro beta forum. Links to those are available from inside the Loopy Pro beta. Tap on the Folder icon in Loopy Pro and tap on the Beta button to get to a page that has those links.

Thanks for the hint. Didn't find those so far. Sorry.

lukesleepwalker

@mccy said:


I'm talking about this view. That makes much sense to me. But I have to go in deeper menues for that. Just a button (like it is with single effects) to change from parameters to this look would be perfect.

And wouldnt it make sense to edit the colours too, when opening the chain with one click?

@espiegel123 said:
I don't know if people noticed, but Michael has asked that beta feedback be posted on the Loopy Pro slack channel in the Loopy Pro beta forum. Links to those are available from inside the Loopy Pro beta. Tap on the Folder icon in Loopy Pro and tap on the Beta button to get to a page that has those links.

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