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ZOA — Living MIDI Sequencer by Ryan Robinson - Released

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  • @NimboStratus said:
    Do you find it sometimes reduces to a small set of notes and repeats endlessly?

    Yes, I think it somehow related to the GoL oscillator concept

  • The play button ▶️ is a bit annoying on my iPhone.
    Takes 3-4 tries not to miss it.

  • Really love this but I think it would really benefit from scale maps so you can limit the notes of each channel to specific notes in a scale. Using Cality for this atm but feel it would really help with the immediate musicality of the plug-in. Would this be something you would consider adding @rygrob ?

  • edited November 2021

    Brilliant idea @rygrob and an instabuy! Thanks OP for the heads up!

  • Good job on this @rygrob ! I could definitively use a -/+24 semitones shift, though, if you fancy changing two constants in your code 😉 Thank you!

  • Really nice app, enjoying it a lot!

  • Simple question (probably) but can you 'save'/name patterns in stand-alone mode?

  • Just hooked ZOA up to my 0-coast, playing into Ableton with some filter delay on. Soundin' sweeeeeet! Great stuff .

  • Thanks for the interest and kind words, everyone! Here's a playlist of tutorial videos I made to go with the app.

    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM2HTvZV-6lkFIEO-jTlxO8guehxwY8w9

  • edited November 2021

    Oscillator question answered. Love this idea!

  • @rygrob I suggest auto respawn when the pattern has boiled down to just a couple of layouts. This has happened to me twice in a few minutes trying the app. For example, the app oscillates between these two patterns:

    Maybe the small population count could be the trigger. Or course, we can always hit the Respawn button to break out of it.

    And I'd also like to see a wider range of shift for the different playheads, to suit different instruments.

    @Kashi I think the term Game of Life Oscillator just refers to these repeating patterns that can occur in this algorithm. They're not sound generators.

  • Beautiful app. Big fan of game of life stuff. I tried the glider pattern and it works really well. Sounds really nice. Thx for this.

  • @rygrob quick question in one of your demo videos I thought I saw you cc mapped the pace of one of the midi senders, but last night I was cc’ing some things in Zoa and didn’t see pace inside AUM mapping? It was the beta though. Gonna buy now. Can you map the pace?

    If you cc some parameters like velocity, length, etc… you get even better results.

  • @Poppadocrock said:
    @rygrob quick question in one of your demo videos I thought I saw you cc mapped the pace of one of the midi senders, but last night I was cc’ing some things in Zoa and didn’t see pace inside AUM mapping? It was the beta though. Gonna buy now. Can you map the pace?

    If you cc some parameters like velocity, length, etc… you get even better results.

    I think pace is the Note Type in the playhead parameters, Advance Rate in Life. That's how they appear in Audiobus.

  • I've been exercising this and find it fascinating to see what it comes up with. However, I've a couple of suggestions that might be useful:

    • It would be nice if the lighted cells were different colors for the different playheads, so we could track the path each one follows.
    • I see that most controls are shared as AU parameters, which is excellent. But the Advance and Respawn buttons are missing. Adding them would enhance MIDI controllability.
  • @uncledave said:

    I think the term Game of Life Oscillator just refers to these repeating patterns that can occur in this algorithm. They're not sound generators.

    Yes, thanks @uncledave - I foolishly thought they were some kind of downloadable 'preset', but I realise now that they're patterns that I can just tap into the grid with my finger!

  • In standalone it has a synth sound. Is it possible to get it to play like that as AUV3?

  • @NimboStratus The internal ‘Sidekick Synth’ is only available in standalone mode.

  • I'm really enjoying this. Got a little trio with SoundFonts flute and bass, nice Dixie organ. Using some StreamByter scripts to transpose the notes to suit the instruments, only adjusting notes that are out of range.

  • I enjoyed the beta. I hope that an external midi trigger option gets added at some point.

    Lots of fun generative auv3 apps out there now, but imo things are more fun when they can speak to one another in a modular fashion. sending a generated rhythmic sequence would make it more flexible and fun.

  • @palms said:
    I enjoyed the beta. I hope that an external midi trigger option gets added at some point.

    Lots of fun generative auv3 apps out there now, but imo things are more fun when they can speak to one another in a modular fashion. sending a generated rhythmic sequence would make it more flexible and fun.

    We have some discussion on groove templates in the Mozaic thread yesterday. I still think Photon AU will do it, but haven't tried yet.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @palms said:
    I enjoyed the beta. I hope that an external midi trigger option gets added at some point.

    Lots of fun generative auv3 apps out there now, but imo things are more fun when they can speak to one another in a modular fashion. sending a generated rhythmic sequence would make it more flexible and fun.

    We have some discussion on groove templates in the Mozaic thread yesterday. I still think Photon AU will do it, but haven't tried yet.

    I'm not sure what you mean tbh. As it stands, ZOA's rhythmic generator is only internal, no?

    What I'm suggesting is opening it up so that it can receive gates from the outside world. Piano rolls, Euclidean seqs etc.

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  • @palms said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @palms said:
    I enjoyed the beta. I hope that an external midi trigger option gets added at some point.

    Lots of fun generative auv3 apps out there now, but imo things are more fun when they can speak to one another in a modular fashion. sending a generated rhythmic sequence would make it more flexible and fun.

    We have some discussion on groove templates in the Mozaic thread yesterday. I still think Photon AU will do it, but haven't tried yet.

    I'm not sure what you mean tbh. As it stands, ZOA's rhythmic generator is only internal, no?

    What I'm suggesting is opening it up so that it can receive gates from the outside world. Piano rolls, Euclidean seqs etc.

    We were talking about going in the opposite direction for the same effect: MIDI out from the sequencer into an app -- say Mozaic or Photon AU -- that applies a rhythmic template to the MIDI stream.

  • @uncledave said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    @rygrob quick question in one of your demo videos I thought I saw you cc mapped the pace of one of the midi senders, but last night I was cc’ing some things in Zoa and didn’t see pace inside AUM mapping? It was the beta though. Gonna buy now. Can you map the pace?

    If you cc some parameters like velocity, length, etc… you get even better results.

    I think pace is the Note Type in the playhead parameters, Advance Rate in Life. That's how they appear in Audiobus.

    Oh ok. Thanks. Yea throw some LFO‘s and a Mosie script or two in between the midi signal and you’ll get some greatness

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @palms said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @palms said:
    I enjoyed the beta. I hope that an external midi trigger option gets added at some point.

    Lots of fun generative auv3 apps out there now, but imo things are more fun when they can speak to one another in a modular fashion. sending a generated rhythmic sequence would make it more flexible and fun.

    We have some discussion on groove templates in the Mozaic thread yesterday. I still think Photon AU will do it, but haven't tried yet.

    I'm not sure what you mean tbh. As it stands, ZOA's rhythmic generator is only internal, no?

    What I'm suggesting is opening it up so that it can receive gates from the outside world. Piano rolls, Euclidean seqs etc.

    We were talking about going in the opposite direction for the same effect: MIDI out from the sequencer into an app -- say Mozaic or Photon AU -- that applies a rhythmic template to the MIDI stream.

    ah, I see. Imo the rhythmic aspect of ZOA is its weakness. It spits out very typical generative sounding music to me.

    I'll grab it once I can make my own scales and it can receive incoming midi gates to trigger. It's just too limited at the moment.

  • Thanks everyone for the downloads and feedback! It's been super inspiring for me to hear what people are already making with ZOA. I definitely plan to revisit and incorporate some of people's feedback in 1.1 down the road. If you like the app, please consider leaving a review. Those really help the long term outlook for the app.

  • @rygrob said:
    Thanks everyone for the downloads and feedback! It's been super inspiring for me to hear what people are already making with ZOA. I definitely plan to revisit and incorporate some of people's feedback in 1.1 down the road. If you like the app, please consider leaving a review. Those really help the long term outlook for the app.

    Great to hear man. Review left. 5 big ones from me. I’ll add some words soon.

    I know you can cc length/gate and velocity but it would be so much easier to be able to set a range right inside the app instead of a static velocity. For example it cold have 2 sliders, one for minimum velocity and one for maximum velocity then each note would be played at a random velocity in that range. Same with length. I think I mentioned this somewhere but wanted mak3 sure you saw it.

    Also as mentioned above it be great send a note or notes in and have it respond to that. Although too many notes in this could get crazy on the polyphony mighty fast. You could have a knob/toggle that switches it from Sequencer (no midi note in, app generates all notes) to - CGOL conways game of life responding to the midi notes sent in. Just like like the Arp switch on Aphelian or Step Poly Arp. That be cool.

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