Loopy Pro Questions

AlmostAnonymous

@Michael said:

@espiegel123 said:

@AlmostAnonymous said:

• i assume pickup mode in midi learn is not functional yet?

Assume if the feature is there that it is supposed to work. If something isn't working, contact @michael to let him know

Pickup mode definitely should work (it does for me, anyway). Might need more detail.

I'll make a vid in a few hours. And about the DAW port of the Launchpad not showing in a midi channel as a destination. Is that something on the roadmap?
Also any way we can get a peek at the scripts for the default mapping of your controllers? Or is there way/format (xml or something), that we can modify a document and import the new controller layout?

I've grown so accustom to making new pages in the session mode of my LPpro for better functionality (via Mozaic scripts now).

Michael

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Lorichs said:
Ohhh man the faders are soooo awesome. Wow @Michael well done 👍🏼👍🏼

It’s the little things, right? Every time i see the extra affordance on the fader I smile and think “someone gets it”. Cheers @Michael

Hehe, thanks guys

Antemode

Makes sense, thank you all!

_smund

Can I change the settings for Re-Record?
-I finish a Loop with a setting of two bars, when I hit re record it will record untill I press the loop to stop, not only for two bars. Can I change it so re-record follows the originaly set loop length? I was looking for it in the manual

JohnInBoston

Quick question which is still “To be written” in the Manual: Timeline looping. How do I do it? I have a bunch of loops in the Sequencer stretched across 20 bars and I want to loop the whole sequence. Or just the middle 8 bars. I’ve tried various tapping gestures on the position pointer, expecting some magic incantation to split it into a Start and an End instead of just “Loop from here”. Is this possible?

espiegel123

@_smund said:
Can I change the settings for Re-Record?
-I finish a Loop with a setting of two bars, when I hit re record it will record untill I press the loop to stop, not only for two bars. Can I change it so re-record follows the originaly set loop length? I was looking for it in the manual

There is a bug in re-record. Workaround is simple. Choose clear instead and tap to record

espiegel123

@JohnInBoston said:
Quick question which is still “To be written” in the Manual: Timeline looping. How do I do it? I have a bunch of loops in the Sequencer stretched across 20 bars and I want to loop the whole sequence. Or just the middle 8 bars. I’ve tried various tapping gestures on the position pointer, expecting some magic incantation to split it into a Start and an End instead of just “Loop from here”. Is this possible?

Tap the loop mode icon in the sequencer and then drag a timeline selection.

espiegel123

@CapnWillie said:
Not sure if possible but it would be great to have a way to adjust volume when auditioning samples/loops in document picker.

The device volume is the only way.

timelining

@JohnInBoston said:
Quick question which is still “To be written” in the Manual: Timeline looping. How do I do it? I have a bunch of loops in the Sequencer stretched across 20 bars and I want to loop the whole sequence. Or just the middle 8 bars. I’ve tried various tapping gestures on the position pointer, expecting some magic incantation to split it into a Start and an End instead of just “Loop from here”. Is this possible?

In the bottom right corner of the SEQ screen are three buttons (left to right):

• Two circular arrows for Loop
• Perforated Square for Selection Tool
• Boxed arrow for Export

Clicking the LOOP icon will give you a yellow bar along the timeline that you can drag around the jog bar.

EDIT* Jinx

JohnInBoston

@espiegel123 and @timelining : Perfect, thanks! Hiding it in the opposite corner was a clever move!

Edit: Bottom toolbar with the Loop button also hides itself if you’ve got the mixer up with the Sequencer open, which is probably what I was doing. As a UI suggestion, it might make more sense to have the Loop (and Select Box) buttons in upper left, next to SEQ and Play/Pause. This is also directly above the timeline “ruler” with bar numbers where you set the Sequence loop length. Just an idea…

cuberoo_

I have a workflow question. In Ableton I use Atlas 2 with a couple of custom drum racks, 16 and 64 pad setups, which for me works really nicely, allowing to build and change drum "kits" as I play with other sounds. I also have a few simple midi clips that I can quickly use to resample a drum and then save as wave. The hits are separated, accounting for most effects, enough to then be able to load them quickly into SEgments and automatically chop them on to 16 or 32 "pads", which works nicely for moving drum kits to the iPad. However, this misses the point of Atlas 2 in this context as it nicely allows on to simply drag the kit and thus the corresponding wavs to a directory, which can be easily uploaded.

I would really like to be able to do something similar with loopy. If at all possible I would like to continue using Atlas in the loopy context, but one of the main things about the iPad is that it is nice to simple sit down and play for a while, without being connected to the laptop. So I'm wonder if people have my workflow ideas that might work in this context.

I'm thinking one possible approach would be to feed loopy into Ableton, using IDAM, allowing the drum kit to be designed there, which I do a lot of the time anyway. This is fine for when I've got the to connected, but what then is the best approach to easily and quickly moving the drum kit to the iPad? What would be super amazing, was if there was a simple way to create a Koala project on the Mac, so I could quickly export the wavs from Atlas and then run a script to package them all up into a project that could then be loaded by Koala.

@elf_audio is this possible?

Any other ideas on this kind of workflow would be really helpful.

espiegel123

@cuberoo_ said:
I have a workflow question. In Ableton I use Atlas 2 with a couple of custom drum racks, 16 and 64 pad setups, which for me works really nicely, allowing to build and change drum "kits" as I play with other sounds. I also have a few simple midi clips that I can quickly use to resample a drum and then save as wave. The hits are separated, accounting for most effects, enough to then be able to load them quickly into SEgments and automatically chop them on to 16 or 32 "pads", which works nicely for moving drum kits to the iPad. However, this misses the point of Atlas 2 in this context as it nicely allows on to simply drag the kit and thus the corresponding wavs to a directory, which can be easily uploaded.

I would really like to be able to do something similar with loopy. If at all possible I would like to continue using Atlas in the loopy context, but one of the main things about the iPad is that it is nice to simple sit down and play for a while, without being connected to the laptop. So I'm wonder if people have my workflow ideas that might work in this context.

I'm thinking one possible approach would be to feed loopy into Ableton, using IDAM, allowing the drum kit to be designed there, which I do a lot of the time anyway. This is fine for when I've got the to connected, but what then is the best approach to easily and quickly moving the drum kit to the iPad? What would be super amazing, was if there was a simple way to create a Koala project on the Mac, so I could quickly export the wavs from Atlas and then run a script to package them all up into a project that could then be loaded by Koala.

@elf_audio is this possible?

Any other ideas on this kind of workflow would be really helpful.

There is a Mac version of Koala. Have you tried using that?

cuberoo_

@espiegel123 said:

@cuberoo_ said:
I have a workflow question. In Ableton I use Atlas 2 with a couple of custom drum racks, 16 and 64 pad setups, which for me works really nicely, allowing to build and change drum "kits" as I play with other sounds. I also have a few simple midi clips that I can quickly use to resample a drum and then save as wave. The hits are separated, accounting for most effects, enough to then be able to load them quickly into SEgments and automatically chop them on to 16 or 32 "pads", which works nicely for moving drum kits to the iPad. However, this misses the point of Atlas 2 in this context as it nicely allows on to simply drag the kit and thus the corresponding wavs to a directory, which can be easily uploaded.

I would really like to be able to do something similar with loopy. If at all possible I would like to continue using Atlas in the loopy context, but one of the main things about the iPad is that it is nice to simple sit down and play for a while, without being connected to the laptop. So I'm wonder if people have my workflow ideas that might work in this context.

I'm thinking one possible approach would be to feed loopy into Ableton, using IDAM, allowing the drum kit to be designed there, which I do a lot of the time anyway. This is fine for when I've got the to connected, but what then is the best approach to easily and quickly moving the drum kit to the iPad? What would be super amazing, was if there was a simple way to create a Koala project on the Mac, so I could quickly export the wavs from Atlas and then run a script to package them all up into a project that could then be loaded by Koala.

@elf_audio is this possible?

Any other ideas on this kind of workflow would be really helpful.

There is a Mac version of Koala. Have you tried using that?

This works like a dream, the whole workflow took longer to download Koala than getting it all working otherwise. This is really great, just what I wanted. Thanks!

bon

Could anyone advise regarding the purchase of a Launchpad please?
I’m considering buying one to use with Loopy and wonder if there is a model to avoid? Are there any real turkeys that don’t have vital functions etc?
Thanks 🥳

rud

@bon said:
Could anyone advise regarding the purchase of a Launchpad please?
I’m considering buying one to use with Loopy and wonder if there is a model to avoid? Are there any real turkeys that don’t have vital functions etc?
Thanks 🥳

I am also in this situation. Trying out a new way of music making with Loopy Pro and would happily invest in one, but I am not sure if a mini will mean I will miss out on any features of LP… if @Michael has a moment to spare I guess he is the oracle on such matters.

espiegel123

@rud said:

@bon said:
Could anyone advise regarding the purchase of a Launchpad please?
I’m considering buying one to use with Loopy and wonder if there is a model to avoid? Are there any real turkeys that don’t have vital functions etc?
Thanks 🥳

I am also in this situation. Trying out a new way of music making with Loopy Pro and would happily invest in one, but I am not sure if a mini will mean I will miss out on any features of LP… if @Michael has a moment to spare I guess he is the oracle on such matters.

Here is a comparison of the features of the various Launchpads:

https://support.novationmusic.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360000777685-Launchpad-Comparison

Note that Launchpad minis do not have velocity sensitive keys or aftertouch. The aftertouch on the Launchpad X and Launchpad Pro is polyphonic.

Launchpads are useful for not just clip launching but also playing notes and finger-drumming. If you do either of the latter, Launchpad X and Launchpad Pro are preferable to the mini.

I have never played the Pro but some say that the feel/touch for playing notes is a little better on them than on the X -- though not everyone agrees.

The pro has quite a few extra function buttons that the X doesn't have.

I chose the X because I was able to get one for about have the price of the pro. At the time, I got it, I wasn't using it for clip launching. I would find those extra buttons pretty useful now.

espiegel123

@CapnWillie said:
I’m also wishing I had a Pro vs LPX now. I have a Maschine Jam that has even more buttons plus faders but not sure if it works with iPad.

Also, sorry for the tardy appreciation for your speedy and helpful attention to all of our questions regarding loopy @espiegel123 I saw your response that currently device setting is the only way to reduce volume when audition audio for import in the doc picker. Do you know if this is an iOS limitation or something Michael has on the roadmap?

i have no idea if there are any plans related to auditioning volume control.

wim

SampleCrate is a nice companion for improved sample auditioning options.

[Deleted User]

If using a launchpad to ‘play’ Loopy Pro, is it possible to record your ‘playing’ as MIDI in for instance Atom and then play that back to Loopy later on from that Atom instance (without the Launchpad being there)?
Or do you have to somehow install the bindings again?

espiegel123

@janpieter said:
If using a launchpad to ‘play’ Loopy Pro, is it possible to record your ‘playing’ as MIDI in for instance Atom and then play that back to Loopy later on from that Atom instance (without the Launchpad being there)?
Or do you have to somehow install the bindings again?

If using the automated bindings, you can’t directly capture the midi from the session mode pads. You could use something like Audiobus 3 or MidiFire to redirect the events on the launchpad’s daw ports so that atom could capture them. You would need to create a parallel mapping of the clips to respond to those events.

Not midi, but you can capture your loop playing as a sequence in loopy pro by using the record sequence feature.

[Deleted User]

@espiegel123 said:

@janpieter said:
If using a launchpad to ‘play’ Loopy Pro, is it possible to record your ‘playing’ as MIDI in for instance Atom and then play that back to Loopy later on from that Atom instance (without the Launchpad being there)?
Or do you have to somehow install the bindings again?

If using the automated bindings, you can’t directly capture the midi from the session mode pads. You could use something like Audiobus 3 or MidiFire to redirect the events on the launchpad’s daw ports so that atom could capture them. You would need to create a parallel mapping of the clips to respond to those events.

Not midi, but you can capture your loop playing as a sequence in loopy pro by using the record sequence feature.

Thank you for your clear answer! (I was asking because I sometimes have the impression that Loopy’s sequencer not always faithfully captures the playing/or the playback somehow is just a little different).

espiegel123

@janpieter said:

@espiegel123 said:

@janpieter said:
If using a launchpad to ‘play’ Loopy Pro, is it possible to record your ‘playing’ as MIDI in for instance Atom and then play that back to Loopy later on from that Atom instance (without the Launchpad being there)?
Or do you have to somehow install the bindings again?

If using the automated bindings, you can’t directly capture the midi from the session mode pads. You could use something like Audiobus 3 or MidiFire to redirect the events on the launchpad’s daw ports so that atom could capture them. You would need to create a parallel mapping of the clips to respond to those events.

Not midi, but you can capture your loop playing as a sequence in loopy pro by using the record sequence feature.

Thank you for your clear answer! (I was asking because I sometimes have the impression that Loopy’s sequencer not always faithfully captures the playing/or the playback somehow is just a little different).

You could also set up manual bindings for launchpad midi that you could record to atom and play back which is what i did before the automated session mode support there

crony

I'd like to use it with full songs or very long loops, a bit more like as a DJ mixing tracks.
There's no problem loading full tracks and then add some short loops (created on the fly or imported) right ?

espiegel123

@crony said:
I'd like to use it with full songs or very long loops, a bit more like as a DJ mixing tracks.
There's no problem loading full tracks and then add some short loops (created on the fly or imported) right ?

No problem. Loopy Pro (like Loopy OG) does disc streaming. I just loaded a 19 minute track and 5 minute track into “loops” on my iPad 6 and it is playing fine

[Deleted User]

@espiegel123 said:

@janpieter said:

@espiegel123 said:

@janpieter said:
If using a launchpad to ‘play’ Loopy Pro, is it possible to record your ‘playing’ as MIDI in for instance Atom and then play that back to Loopy later on from that Atom instance (without the Launchpad being there)?
Or do you have to somehow install the bindings again?

If using the automated bindings, you can’t directly capture the midi from the session mode pads. You could use something like Audiobus 3 or MidiFire to redirect the events on the launchpad’s daw ports so that atom could capture them. You would need to create a parallel mapping of the clips to respond to those events.

Not midi, but you can capture your loop playing as a sequence in loopy pro by using the record sequence feature.

Thank you for your clear answer! (I was asking because I sometimes have the impression that Loopy’s sequencer not always faithfully captures the playing/or the playback somehow is just a little different).

You could also set up manual bindings for launchpad midi that you could record to atom and play back which is what i did before the automated session..

Do you have the color feedback then?

crony

@espiegel123 said:

@crony said:
I'd like to use it with full songs or very long loops, a bit more like as a DJ mixing tracks.
There's no problem loading full tracks and then add some short loops (created on the fly or imported) right ?

No problem. Loopy Pro (like Loopy OG) does disc streaming. I just loaded a 19 minute track and 5 minute track into “loops” on my iPad 6 and it is playing fine

Thanks ! Brilliant

onerez

So sorry…. I tried to find the answer but could not see. In sequence mode and we do fades in and out on tracks? Also can we do simple automation yet, like volume, pan etc……..
Thanks!!!

rud

Thanks @espiegel123 your answers are always appreciated. I think the mini mk3 might be enough for simple triggering as I have an Akai MPK mini for playing notes and velocity finger drumming.

espiegel123

@onerez said:
So sorry…. I tried to find the answer but could not see. In sequence mode and we do fades in and out on tracks? Also can we do simple automation yet, like volume, pan etc……..
Thanks!!!

No automation yet. But you could use a sequencer AU to record play back midi you have mapped to controls (which you will have to loop back to the midi control system —directions for which can be found in the ab wiki). You can have fades on loops. But can’t automate fades other than that.

headmademusic

@d4d0ug said:
@headmademusic @AlmostAnonymous

Try this for size https://discord.io/loopypro

Or https://discord.gg/8CXVQqXypK

Thanks a lot.