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Also, since you are in Europe, you could have had a no-questions asked refund if you had tried in a timely manner.
.> @espiegel123 said:
I wouldn't worry about it - Apple are not going to pull the app from the store because one person thinks it isn't very good.
Let me know if you have more videos/makers that show what bm3 the tool can be! Vs the usual let’s make the same 808s every damn day. [im down with any genre]Haven’t tried to watch bm3 tutorials in a while cause they were crap/ there was one dude, still around, that was more like a toothpaste commercial, had to have his silly smile, let’s pause the app, big giant smile for the mirror on my smile, now back to the app, where you would think I have SOME experience, even a couple of hours of learning…nope, dude fumbles every single thing like he’s never opened the app in his life, but maybe he was famous for something else too, so ppl just follow? Idk
Maybe right when I make to the last page of the manual, they will release part 4, with an all new different manual lol
It’s funny because once the app disappears and is no longer available, people will want it more and miss it. Look at apps like Rebirth.. Honestly it blows it is poorly maintained, but what it still offers for the price, it still is dope.
There are a lot of BM3 tutorial videos out there.
Henny Tha Bizness also has a bunch of videos of building beats and grooves with BM3 that I enjoyed.
I've never been refused a refund, on the occasions I've felt warranted one.
Perhaps i've missed it, but what bugs have you experienced? I'm no power-user, so maybe my case is abnormal. However, I don't remember having any issues with it. And it still seems like a power-house of an app, with an albeit (at first) confounding workflow.
Seriously??
As several others mention here, Beatmaker 3 is still alive, because it works flawless and have not more bugs then comparable advanced app on Appstore…
We’ll see what’s happens with BM3 after iPadOS17 will be released - v17 will bring in much new things to the core and other parts of v17 (rumors)…
You are really like a friend of the dev to promote beakmaker3 , do you use it regularly at least ? You don’t want people to make critic on beatmaker but you make critic of other apps it is not fair.
I have no right to say that it wasn’t updated by the dev at all for 2 years , that many got problems with bugs and crashes and you try to say that I am a troll to apply censorship. What happens with you ?
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For the refund I don’t blame Apple as I wait too long , I bought BM3 and first have no time to use it and after I make time to learn it and got bugs doing music I lost all my projects 3 times.
@BerlinFx You mailed the law department of Apple about complaining about a app that still works great? Did you drink or smoke too much?
It's looking like you are a BM3 expert......what are all the bugs you are talking about?
No, I am not a friend of the developer. Like many, I find BM3 a great and useful app.
Imo, it is very different to say “I don’t like this app and find it buggy” and “This app doesn’t deserve to be available.”
Fwiw, there are great apps that haven’t been updated in years.. that doesn’t mean hey are bad apps.
The last couple of updates made BM3 quite stable in my opinion.
Mr/Ms Berlin talking a lot of BS here - and, he/she refuse to mention the bugs that he/she is struggling with…
For me BM3 have been enough stable to use on regular basis, but, from now Logic Pro will take over 100%…
I dont want to argue anymore about BM3. It was during the period were I was testing many of the daw on iOS to decide what was fitting to me. Before Logic iOS. Auria pro was not for me as Audio Evolution Mobile ( a good Daw ) or MTS or Ntract . I stack at this on iOS time to NS2 and Cubasis.
If you read me I tell that with a follow up and bugs fixes BM3 was a good Daw and that was a pity that the dev doesn’t improve it. It is not fitting my workflow and had crashes , I didn’t put into note at this time what were the
If you enjoy it good but I will not advise a beginner to choose BM3 as a Daw. And it is not because you love a daw that you need not to say to a beginner the reality. It is safer to tell him to use Cubasis 3 or Logic LP , NS2 it’s only midi that the problem to advise it. A beginner need to invest in a daw with a future. Even I am not sure of the future of Cubasis but it get support from a serious team.
I would tell a beginner to avoid iOS all together and just grab a ton of the free amazing stuff on desktop if they can.
Here’s the thing with BM3. It has the deepest sampling integration capabilities on iOS and the timestretch algorithms are up there with the best. That’s it. That’s why we keep using it. There’s people who have used MPCs for years who then use BM3 and say, ‘Goddamn! This thing is deeeep’. If you sample/resample and make music on the iPad then it is the best. Not iMPC, not Segments, not Chameleon, not Reslice, not Neon, not Egoist. BM3 just does more with samples. OK, Koala is very close and would be my first pick for an AUv3 sampler workflow, but they are more like father and son…
I tried MPC 2 and it wasn’t for me , BM3 seems indeed far more powerful I can only hope you get BM4 and better updates.
This has a distinct JAX vibe!
Meanwhile @hansjbs keeps knocking out these dope bangers using this dead DAW… 🔊🔊🔊😎
I think the problem with BM3 is it is such an incredible sampler but has so much DAW stuff going on that people (myself included) tried to use it like a timeline DAW, midi sequencer, Au host etc.
It was always pretty buggy in that scenario. The other problem was that even though you could get away with low buffer settings and not hear glitches/pops, they made it into the samples/audio recordings unless you increased the buffer.
"How DARE you!".
1 user(s) got it! 😄
Two years is a long time with no updates. I just checked out of curiosity. Does not inspire hope.
Yah I wonder if Apple has given them an update deadline yet.
@BerlinFx It's fine to get a refund on software that doesn't work for you, but it isn't really a good look to be trying to get said software removed from the appstore simply because you don't like it. I don't care for BM3 either despite having purchased it when it first released (especially since it had a lot of bugs to be ironed out back then), but to be honest I didn't bother asking for a refund either. I simply considered it a write-off on taxes. 🤪
But neither will I say "I will get it removed from the appstore" as there are other users here who love BM3. And one advantage BM3 has over NS2 is the fact BM3 has audio tracks . 😆 And BM3's sampler is still second to none on iOS (sorry Alchemy Sampler in Logic Pro, BM3 still has you whupped).
You are right sometimes because of my medical pill I am strange and over react. Sorry for that and I am sorry for all who use BM3.
Don’t worry for BM3 , Apple replied to my email telling me that BM3 is compliant and will stay in AppStore, the dev will receive a message to remember him that apps should be updated at least once a year (Apple doesn’t enforce that rule ) . I got a gift card. So everybody happy.
You might have single-handedly forced the next BM3 update! That’s awesome 😂😂😂
@BerlinFx i would recommend checking when an app was last updated before purchasing.
Like you, I tend to avoid apps that appear to have been abandoned. It’s only a matter of time before you find a problem that will never be fixed. There are plenty of amazing apps on iOS that have regular updates.
BM3 is a weird one though. I can’t remember what happened but I think the main developer left the project. It’s in the same graveyard as NS2 for me - a sad casualty of a less sustainable time for iOS music. Hopefully with Logic Pro bringing more users and better payment models like Loopy Pro around, we’ll see devs like this earning enough money and sticking around.
Not specific to BM3, but iOS in general: Not getting regular updates is absolutely not the same thing as abandoned.
Sometimes a product is simply finished and when it runs fine I see no reason as a dev to waste time updating it all the time (with what, exactly?).
Now I am wiser I look indeed to read about updates before buying apps. For personal reason LP ios was a great news for me (I wasn’t expecting that) as I can’t really use anymore LP on my Desktop (health problems). I prefer to subscribe to few but very good apps with regular updates and new content. This way I have a better budget control.
The market change I think guys will be more selective and would expect far more from apps to do as iOS music seems to go for pro standard.
There are also a market for apps that bring unique features this why I bought this month Hilda, Noise and Cascade. I will don’t buy anymore an apps just to support a dev as I have done in the past , support buy was this month Mela 4 but I will not have time to use it, after this one no more dev support buy.
Good point. If an app is stable then fine I suppose. On reflection I probably have hundreds of ‘finished’ apps that I use regularly without thinking about when they were last updated.
I think BM3 did address the ongoing bugs eventually, but I remember a long time of folks on here discussing its instabilities. It did feel pretty abandoned with no communication from the devs on their own forum for a very long time.