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Likewise, it remains to be seen how this will impact things at scale.
I'm sure there were priests who hated print because they were like who will need manuscripts now. Same thing when photography was seen as replacing paintings.
@AudioGus I'm finding DreamStudio pretty literal so far and I'm not liking the results compared to dalle or midjourney. I'm testing using the same prompts I used before. This is especially true when using different artist interpretations. Seems like it might be not that as good as combining abstract concepts.
Further down the line, can we imagine the coming death of internet? When there is no way to tell what is autogenerated or not, be it text, images, sounds or videos, whether interactions are people or bots, whether that political discussion is actually real or just some prompt-engineered result ... people give up on internet and go to the town square for physical interaction instead
Time to short the big tech stocks, you heard it here first. Has this movie or novel already been done?
Machine learning and (eventually) artificial intelligence and general purpose robots are going to replace literally ALL professionals who have spent a lifetime honing their craft. Why? Because of demand. The supply of professionals continues to drastically decrease due to demographic changes worldwide. There is a massive contraction of skilled labor, but an increase in demand for these professionals and their services. The rise of the "artificial professional" addresses this.
And on a related note, in Tesla's upcoming "A.I. Day" presentation on September 30th they are expected to unveil a working prototype of their "Optimus" general purpose robot worker. Depending on how it goes, they plan on releasing a version of this robot next year.
Oh cool...going to try this out. I've been looking for a solution on the desktop. I know that Pixelmator Photo is headed to the Mac as well....but this might be better.
Thanks!
The same prompts will not work. You need to get to know the Ai and prompt accordingly.
I already have Pixelmator Pro on desktop. It has been available for some time.
Pixelmator Photo is a different app and being ported to Mac now.
Gigapixel Topaz has a few different modes you can select as well as noise and blur functions. It also does batch images so great for animation or series of images. There is a free demo too, oh and it works as a photoshop plugin of sorts.
Hmm, ok, I'll play with it some more.
What's the difference?
But photography didn’t take the actual work of artists, to be used as their replacement. It’s not the same thing.
If you look up the early complaints about photography, which is well documented from the 1800s, you'll see there were very similar complaints. That painters would be rendered obsolete by photography, because it was too easy and quick.
That doesn’t make it the same.
Conceptually it is. New technology + conceived perception that it will replace existing skilled labor. But I think it's best not to keep arguing back and forth.
While I'm not an art historian, one can think of how photography actually pushed painting towards abstract art in some ways, since replication of realistic forms (which were often overly idealized e.g. Bougoureau) was no longer needed. If we think more positively, AI art may push traditional/digital art in new directions that we can't yet imagine.
Are you deliberately ignoring the point I’ve made?
AI software can do what it’s doing as it has scraped existing artwork and photos, from the very artists it may potentially replace, and spits them out as ‘new’ content.
Photography, as far as I’m aware, didn’t evolve from mashing up Dali’s old canvases and regurgitating them in the darkroom as a portrait of Aunt Maude.
It’s a totally separate medium and technology, that doesn’t require existing artists work to exist.
So it isn’t a valid comparison.
Wow...this thing is amazing! Thanks for the info. Good to have this on the desktop. Now I don't have to worry about /Fast rendering limits on MJ
Does a great job on upressing: No Post Work to color grade and add bits and bobs...but great to build on top of.
I agree, both the painter and photographer were both human, the competition this time is definitely not.
Those AI machines are certainly ‘gas guzzlers’, to think resources will be magically produced from the ether to sustain both humanity and AI is quite an assumption, we have trouble sustaining ourselves, but maybe they’ll machine learn themselves with more efficiency and trim us down to better efficiency too.
By that token though it does not lean abstract like MJ does, which is why it is more of a commercial art disrupter. It may not be able to do what you want. I do still use Mj for more mashup weird stuff still.
Even drawing completely from public domain sources and adding new video and procedural 3d renders these things would soon still be just as powerful, if not even more than they are now. 'Taking a snapshot of the internet as it is today' which is what the current researchers say, is really just a shortcut.
Looking at the quality of the current mutated output that's still relatively close to the source content, I doubt it though. They'll need to keep guzzling that arty gas...FEED ME!
Yep, the scope for disruption is potentially endless. If it scrapes new source content. If it's only reference is what it's already produced, then it ain't gonna be pretty:
'Siri, can you draw a picture of the Eiffel Tower, in the midst of a sandstorm?'
Three minutes of mangled steel, twisted dolls heads and rotten leaves later...
'Siri...that isn't...quite...what I asked for...'
At present, artists jobs are safe. But it all depends on how good the generated stuff becomes, and the lowering of expectations from those commissioning the artwork.
I am pretty sure there are enough public domain pictures of the Eifel Tower and sandstorms that Stable Diffusion would render it completely accurately if only limited to those sources.
It was a joke Gus, though potentially accurate if they used your spelling
Replace ‘Eiffel Tower’ with something new that they haven’t scraped.
Anyone seen this one?
https://apps.apple.com/mr/app/voiceart/id1635947799
Free app (appears to be unlimited but with occasional ads) and uses Stable Diffusion apparently.
Oh and iPhone only but works on iPad with usual scaling issue
Is it scraping when a human learns from a photo? Asking for a friend.
Learns? You mean using photo reference?
You can use one as derivative reference, with permission. So no, not like scraping.
With permission?
Yes. Unless it’s very loosely used.
So if I wanted to learn to draw like Bill Watterson I need to ask his permission?
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