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I've finally accepted the NanoStudio 2 will not get audio tracks.
To be honest I'm a bit sad about it. I thought it would be my IOS Daw for life.
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I had accepted this a long time ago
Shame
NS2 has so many good points
I have just drifted away from this app,
But never say never
Deep down always hope I open this forum and get surprised by a thread stating this is a reality
I can live in hope, but still good at what it does
Ns1 took ages before it came audiobus enabled, etc
In fact I hope blip is well, and will keep half a finger crossed for the future of the app
What is an audio track? What about neon recorder. With cubasis. With recordings to neons. Neons scroll in sync. When you scroll cubasis timeline.
Yep, me too. I genuinely think that the app would have been much more successful if they had been developed and added as intended.
don't worry Modstep is adding it soon
I know its not quite the same but have you tried using 4pocket’s Multitrack? It was designed specifically with AUM and NS in mind.
https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/multitrack-recorder-plugin/id1483833410
Bruh….
edit I just bought Neon editor and can confirm the playhead sync functionality works with nanostudio as well.
It’s still a great environment to make music in. Hopefully some day it will. ❤️
With NS2, on the very rare occasions that Obsidian sampler, Slate, AudioLayer & Koala don’t cover my audio-track needs, 4pockets’ MTR and Neon more than provide for it for me.
NS2 is the only DAW I use - I have Audio Evolution (which is superb), Gadget (which I really don’t like from a sequencing point of view), Bandlab (that I just can’t get to grips with), Zenbeats that I don’t like & FL Mobile that hasn’t been opened in years.
But I always came back to NS2 so I’m now like “why keep trying others when this does everything I need powerfully & easily?”
I umm-ed & ahh-ed about getting Cubasis as I’ve been using Cubase from back in the Atari days (no audio-tracks back then haha!) right through the creation of vst technology on desktop. However again I was like “do I really want to abandon NS2 when all I’m gaining is audio-tracks which I’m already covered perfectly for - AND I’d lose Obsidian and the easy-to-use workflow??”
So I’m happy with NS2 as it is to be honest.
That said, I don’t record bands - my views on NS2 might be different in that case.
OK so I have been away from NS for a while and did not know about the neon editor option. The host playhead sync is exactly what we needed in NanoStudio.
From what I can tell you cant clip launch and use host sync at the same time, so you must “add space” to the audio tracks in Neon Editor in order to have it match up properly with the host timeline.
For instance if I have a 3 minute song with one minute of vocals that start at the 2:00 mark I will need to make sure the neon editor file has 2 minutes of space before the vocals begin. Please let me know if there is a better way of doing this!
I can get things done fairly quickly in NS2. The biggest thing I would like is bounce the midi to audio for further manipulation. Keeping everything midi is fine but in my mind midi is always volatile, like RAM in a computer. It is fleeting. The great thing is, it is easily changed.
Audio is a commitment. When the midi is no long available, it is not changed as easily. But it is not volatile. Once you bounce a track down, it's there. You can manipulate and do different things to audio easier than midi.
So NS2 not having audio tracks is more of a workflow issue for me. To really manipulate the audio, I would have to bounce down the project, individual tracks, then import it into some other DAW or app to do things.
I find my self using NS2 as just another sound module or to capture a quick idea.
OK I see now that Neon Editor severely degrades the audio the longer the file is. Around 200 bars there is a very noticeable, awful sounding loss in quality. No I suspect the best way to have host sync for a full song is to have multiple instances of Neon loaded and looping and must/unmute them as they are needed in the appropriate points in the song.
OK and NOW I see that loopy pro has host sync too, so all of this is a moot point.
It is quite annoying that people keep saying Nanostudio doesn’t have audio tracks when there are some very good solutions available. Almost as annoying that more users chime in agreement instead of pointing to obvious solutions.
Nanostudio has audio tracks now, you just have to invest in some AUV3s. End of story.
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I know I know.....
that app was so ahead of it's time
A couple of people seem to be emphasizing Neon. What would be the use case that would lead one to chose that over Multitrack in NS?
Perhaps the warp feature? But it sounds terrible. Loopy Pro is the obvious choice here.
How are you getting external audio (from mic or audio interface) into these plugins when hosted in NS2?
I use a combination of NS2 and FLSM but do a lot more on FLSM lately. It suits my needs in most cases.
I bought Multitrack after seeing folks on here talk about using it with NS2, I found it clunky and a bit unreliable and never used it again.
In that case, welcome to 2019.
...and try to enjoy yourself, as the world will go a bit haywire from next March.
😂😂😂
You’re right - Loopy Pro might be the best option yet. I guess the sad part is that it is a hack and the dream of NS2 was always workflow and integration.
Where does NS2 stand today? Does anyone know if there is still active work/support? Or has the developer paused.
It doesn't. ;-)
There are some solutions to some uses for audio tracks available. "Very good" is a stretch. None of the auv3 solutions are anywhere near as fluid and practical as, for example, any desktop DAW's audio track implementation.
My obvious solution is to use Slate for audio -- usually 4 or 8 bar loops. I used to use hardware samplers in a similar way before audio tracks were a thing. Triggering audio works well, and I tend to use BW to pre-stretch everything to make it even easier to work with.
Nanostudio doesn't have audio tracks. But you can work around it in various klunky ways.
NS2 would be greatly improved with the addition of audio tracks but it's a very good app none the less. I use it more than any other DAW-type app, especially on my iPhone. I use it as a musical scratchpad and export stems to use in BlocsWave as a kind of holding cell for ideas or straight off to Logic when it's time to make an actual track.
What's great about NS2 is that it's very unfiddly compared to most other iOS DAWs. Adding a layer of fiddlyness to compensate for the lack of audio tracks ruins the experience for me.
Your mileage might vary. Getting annoyed about how other people perceive audio on NS2 and any workarounds or lack thereof is pointless. What works for you might not work for somebody else. If you have confidence in your own solution that's great. The fact others can't see your light shouldn’t bother you in the slightest.
I'm glad your solutions work for you. Truly. Mine work for me too, but they don't involve trying to make NS2 into a DAW with proper audio tracks. I still like and use it all the time regardless and probably will until it/if it eventually fades away.
Maybe @dendy can chime in and give us a update where NS2 stands today? He did intensive testing and had contact with the developer.
File import. I don’t record with iPad.
I'm open to videos of the best workflow to simulate audio tracks in NS2, while not having to leave the app to record things elsewhere.
lol @tk32 and @bresk .
In the last year, NS2 really helped me fend off loopitis and sketch out full arrangements. Lately I'm trying to make myself do the same in Cubasis but it's a struggle. Why Steinberg are the copy and paste buttons on the right side of the toolbar separated from other clip operations like erase, split, etc? For me, NS2's color coded tool bar at the bottom of the screen is one the things that makes NS2 so fast. Slate is cool, but sometimes being able to just record audio onto the timeline into a track is nice.
Using Slate in NanoStudio 2 was what I found to be the most effective way to do this.
I learned a few tips from Russ8889 that I’m planning on posting soon. It wasn’t only @Gravitas I met up with in the UK.