DRAMBO 2.0 is LIVE!!!

lukesleepwalker

@echoopera said:

@lukesleepwalker said:
Clip launcher question after watching a couple of tutorial videos: is there a way to set the repeats to “loop” or “infinite”? Right now, looping a scene looks binary by using the loop button on the right nav. But there are times live when I want to mix/match looping scenes and “repeat scene x times and then play next scene”. Not possible?

Long press on the Clip number on the left to bring up this panel

Yessir, found that one! No option for infinite repeat there, right? So my options are to engage the loop button until I’m ready to progress through scenes or… ? In most clip launchers I have the option to set the repeats to infinite and then use the scene arrows to start through a scene progression again.

db909

Love the new interface, could not get along with the old one but now I’d say Drambo has a new fan. Noob question though: what’s the deal with the last 4 pads? I can’t seem to add anything to them so I’m wondering what they’re there for? Right now I’ve got a template set up with 10 tracks, 8 regular and the 2 extra but it’d be nice to have 4 more

supadom

@Johnba said:

@yowza said:

@supadom said:

@yowza said:

@supadom said:

@yowza said:
Does anyone have links to music created in Drambo that's not EDM?

This is not all done in Drambo because I see Loopy being used. What is Drambo actually doing here that can't be done elsewhere?

Sorry to be replying to a question with another question but could you be a bit more specific what sort of music are you expecting to make (examples)? So far I got the idea that you are indie/rock type of guy but I’m probably well of the mark.

No I'm a jazz fusion, funk, prog rock classical guitarist. My "curse" if you will, is that I was already a musician before iOS came along. I've been patiently waiting for iOS music to catch up and give musicians the tools to make it easier to create any type of music not just electronic music in 4/4 which it seems to favor. I'm still waiting. Not trying to diss Drambo at all or criticize anyone's music choices, just wondering out loud if Drambo lends itself to anything other than electronic music. I do use Loopy Pro and other iOS music apps. I realize I'm in the minority here. Thanks for patiently putting up with my questions!!

I play mostly Jazz on trumpet with other musicians and learnt/played lots about harmony and theory these last two years.
I see electronic music as a way of releasing ideas differently, also because electronic music is often meant to be played on your own. I get satisfied by what this offers which in no way is comparable to what playing with other people live can be.
That Drambo update makes us spoilt. It really is an invitation to get creative using all tools IOS music brought us so far.
And the results are a real treat for the ears, if you -also- like programming music, that is

I am a core/founding member of a 7 piece also including trumpet. With iOS I’ve played live with a drummer and that worked fine although brings some logistical challenges as well as skills required to make electronic elements sound as dynamic as other instruments. Can be done though.

rs2000

@panthera86 said:
is there a way to pitch "Noise" for snares?

all my synth generated snares, sound the same.

or better asked any tips? to get snare sounds in the realm of seekbeats or elastic drums?

Even better:
I've created a physical model of a real snare drum.
You can find the Instrument Rack preset under:
Factory > Drums > Snare > Metal snare

Johnba

Very Cool @supadom !!!!

bleep

@Skyblazer said:

@bleep said:

• Hold STEP + play - start playback from selected step

Can't get this one to work. Sounds very useful!

Same here. It's either a bug or it requires modifying some new clip setting? @giku_beepstreet?

Samu

White Noise thru a Decimator in Rough Mode modulating the decimation frequency is perfect for 'pitched noise' SID-Style...

bleep

@vasilymilovidov said:
feature of the day for me – fdn module.

The fdn tension knob is doing wonders on pad sounds!

Stuntman_mike

@CapnWillie said:

@Stuntman_mike said:
…It might be cool to work with a hardware company like Intech to make modules that snap together to control Drambo. I mean Intech has some modules ready to go now. Perhaps Drambo’s modules could inspire new Intech modules. Heck maybe Drambo could double as an Intech editor on iOS one day!

https://intech.studio/

How are those working out for you?

I actually didn’t buy any because I already have Midi Fighter 3D and Twister along with a Korg nanoKONTROL2. I can honestly see a hardware developer making a controller for Drambo one day! Something with buttons, knobs, pads, crossfader and keyboard. The layout to some degree mirroring Drambo’s. 64 pads/step sequencer with MPE. Dreaming 🛌

yowza

@supadom said:

I think many here were already acoustic/electric musicians before entering iOS realm, although I personally see it as an extra gear as opposed to a curse.
It’s true, many build their compositions in a more Lego style manner and others like to capture stuff live. Which of the two deserves more the musician badge is perhaps a discussion for another day.
As for Drambo…
In the end it’s really up to you how you use software to achieve what you need as already pointed out by @echoopera and @lukesleepwalker.

I was listening to the BBC Desert Island Disks with Thom Yorke this morning. One of the tracks he’s chosen was an electronic drum and bass type track that totally sounded like jazz. I think in this day and age using old ways to classify music is a bit dated.

I only mentioned curse in the context of iOS music which seems to lend itself to people who want to make beats and are not already musicians.

Not sure what point you're trying to make about ways to classify music. I only described the music I play to give you an idea where I'm coming from and because you did ask me the question. You thought I was an indie rock kind of guy so you still use old ways to classify music too. It's kinda hard to get away from because none of us live in a vacuum.

I would hope the music I create is my own mish mash of all the music I like which does include synths and electronic instruments but I certainly wouldn't call it "electronic" music.

ohwell

Best practice question. Is the easiest way to use an irregular number of steps in a track (Eg 15 or 19 or 23) to use the jump step condition? Or is there a way to specify exactly how many steps per track we want? (I’m seeing the options to add/remove bars per track.)

Gravitas

k> @yowza said:

@echoopera said:

@yowza said:
Does anyone have links to music created in Drambo that's not EDM?

I would like to think that the music i make with Drambo isn’t EDM…but i don’t know what your definition of EDM is.

Nice ambient track and video!!

To be honest that track sounds like it could have been created in any number of other apps. I'm not a modular person so Drambo doesn't really appeal to me at all for that reason alone (I know it has presets but modular in general is too much of a time suck for me). I keep waiting to hear something from Drambo that doesn't sound like "electronic" music. Thanks!!

This one was created using dRambo as sequencer in AUM.

and this one uses synths that I’ve designed in dRambo.

rs2000

@yowza said:

@supadom said:

@yowza said:

@supadom said:

@yowza said:
Does anyone have links to music created in Drambo that's not EDM?

This is not all done in Drambo because I see Loopy being used. What is Drambo actually doing here that can't be done elsewhere?

Sorry to be replying to a question with another question but could you be a bit more specific what sort of music are you expecting to make (examples)? So far I got the idea that you are indie/rock type of guy but I’m probably well of the mark.

No I'm a jazz fusion, funk, prog rock classical guitarist. My "curse" if you will, is that I was already a musician before iOS came along. I've been patiently waiting for iOS music to catch up and give musicians the tools to make it easier to create any type of music not just electronic music in 4/4 which it seems to favor. I'm still waiting. Not trying to diss Drambo at all or criticize anyone's music choices, just wondering out loud if Drambo lends itself to anything other than electronic music. I do use Loopy Pro and other iOS music apps. I realize I'm in the minority here. Thanks for patiently putting up with my questions!!

There are no limits. Why use Drambo for EDM only??

el_bo

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@el_bo said:
I actually watched your first video and the music you made with V2. Liked the track, but also enjoyed your video style. I can see tutorials being twice the length of the contained info but in the case of an app that appears to have such a steep learning-curve, the slower pacing likely helps a lot. Certainly, the interjection of humour is probably good for memorising the material, by way of reinforcement

Thanks a lot, that’s really useful feedback to hear. The basic thought behind my tutorials and channel going forwards (there will be a lot of other stuff) is that I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable as massive synth/modular experts but I can figure out these apps well enough. So while I may not be able to teach as well as some other YouTubers, I can lean into humour as a way to make the content entertaining while also still hopefully being useful, and the plan is that’s a reason to watch the vids in itself and will keep an audience coming back.

I’m still working out tone and video length (the first thing I learnt this week is that keeping things concise is a massive skill, and doing that and also trying to be funny is a massive balancing act that I will hopefully start to hone in on much better in future).

Thanks for watching - it’s much appreciated, particularly in these early days when I have very few subscribers! Building from nothing will take a while, so any and all feedback to help me pick up more viewers in this format is brilliant.

Great that you're open to feedback. And also good you're leaning into being concise. Many, many demands upon peoples' attention, these days. So there's a delicate balance between keeping it 'light' enough to entertain, and people getting all, "C'mon, mate! I just wanna know...Does it blend WUB?!"

As long as you know enough about what you'e talking about to not misinform, I doubt your skill-level makes a huge difference. If anything (And if the videos conform to some semblance of an overall 'story' arc), it'll perhaps come across as more of a 'Let's learn together...while doing' type of thing...which could also really work.

Subscribed!

Stuntman_mike

@Gravitas said:
k> @yowza said:

@echoopera said:

@yowza said:
Does anyone have links to music created in Drambo that's not EDM?

I would like to think that the music i make with Drambo isn’t EDM…but i don’t know what your definition of EDM is.

Nice ambient track and video!!

To be honest that track sounds like it could have been created in any number of other apps. I'm not a modular person so Drambo doesn't really appeal to me at all for that reason alone (I know it has presets but modular in general is too much of a time suck for me). I keep waiting to hear something from Drambo that doesn't sound like "electronic" music. Thanks!!

This one was created using dRambo as sequencer in AUM.

and this one uses synths that I’ve designed in dRambo.

Love it!

yowza

@rs2000 said:

There are no limits. Why use Drambo for EDM only??

I don't have Drambo and was only wondering whether anyone had created music with Drambo that didn't sound like electronic music. I tend to lump most electronic music into the EDM category which I know is lazy on my part.

rs2000

@ohwell said:
Best practice question. Is the easiest way to use an irregular number of steps in a track (Eg 15 or 19 or 23) to use the jump step condition? Or is there a way to specify exactly how many steps per track we want? (I’m seeing the options to add/remove bars per track.)

The Jump step condition is the way to go for now.

vasilymilovidov

@yowza said:

@rs2000 said:

There are no limits. Why use Drambo for EDM only??

I don't have Drambo and was only wondering whether anyone had created music with Drambo that didn't sound like electronic music. I tend to lump most electronic music into the EDM category which I know is lazy on my part.

but what do you want to do on ios? what tools do you need for your music? what results do you want to achieve?

Gravitas

@rs2000 said:

@yowza said:

@supadom said:

@yowza said:

@supadom said:

@yowza said:
Does anyone have links to music created in Drambo that's not EDM?

This is not all done in Drambo because I see Loopy being used. What is Drambo actually doing here that can't be done elsewhere?

Sorry to be replying to a question with another question but could you be a bit more specific what sort of music are you expecting to make (examples)? So far I got the idea that you are indie/rock type of guy but I’m probably well of the mark.

No I'm a jazz fusion, funk, prog rock classical guitarist. My "curse" if you will, is that I was already a musician before iOS came along. I've been patiently waiting for iOS music to catch up and give musicians the tools to make it easier to create any type of music not just electronic music in 4/4 which it seems to favor. I'm still waiting. Not trying to diss Drambo at all or criticize anyone's music choices, just wondering out loud if Drambo lends itself to anything other than electronic music. I do use Loopy Pro and other iOS music apps. I realize I'm in the minority here. Thanks for patiently putting up with my questions!!

There are no limits. Why use Drambo for EDM only??

Agreed.

I’ve currently got my guitar turned up to 11 ready and waiting.

ohwell

@rs2000 Thank you!

timelining

I've spent the morning on a new project and focused on the sequencer and I keep grinning with what it can do. Modulation is really well thought out too.

I like how the track resolution submenu looks like the iOS calculator app.

Gravitas

@Stuntman_mike

Thanks.
🙏🏾

ohwell

@vasilymilovidov said:

@yowza said:

@rs2000 said:

There are no limits. Why use Drambo for EDM only??

I don't have Drambo and was only wondering whether anyone had created music with Drambo that didn't sound like electronic music. I tend to lump most electronic music into the EDM category which I know is lazy on my part.

but what do you want to do on ios? what tools do you need for your music? what results do you want to achieve?

Well said!

@yowza Can’t resist jumping in, because my favorite use of Drambo is processing my acoustic instruments in this kind of way.

That means tons of modulation, the envelope follower module, and the transient detector modules are my best friends.

Know your needs. Learn about the tools. Then experiment to see what works for your needs. That’s always the puzzle when reaching for music making tools you don’t already know. It’s not an iOS or electronic thing. And it’s certainly, absolutely not a musician vs non-musician thing.

yowza

@vasilymilovidov said:

I don't have Drambo and was only wondering whether anyone had created music with Drambo that didn't sound like >electronic music. I tend to lump most electronic music into the EDM category which I know is lazy on my part.

but what do you want to do on ios? what tools do you need for your music? what results do you want to achieve?

I probably already have all the tools I need but when people constantly say "Drambo can do that" as if it can do everything, it makes me curious if there is something I'm missing. I already have a bunch of apps that could do electronic music if I wanted to do that and they don't require building things in a modular environment first. I think Drambo is probably not the app for me

Gravitas

@yowza said:

@vasilymilovidov said:

I don't have Drambo and was only wondering whether anyone had created music with Drambo that didn't sound like >electronic music. I tend to lump most electronic music into the EDM category which I know is lazy on my part.

but what do you want to do on ios? what tools do you need for your music? what results do you want to achieve?

I probably already have all the tools I need but when people constantly say "Drambo can do that" as if it can do everything, it makes me curious if there is something I'm missing. I already have a bunch of apps that could do electronic music if I wanted to do that and they don't require building things in a modular environment first. I think Drambo is probably not the app for me

You don’t actually have to build anything in dRambo.
Use auv3’s for both instruments and effects as with any other
DAW/groovebox/music program and use dRambo for the sequencing.
dRambo is a modular playground and it’s now a fully fledged sequencer.
Saying that “horses for courses”, if it doesn’t rock your boat then it doesn’t.

eross

@Grandbear said:

@eross said:
is there a way to shit notes, so they hit a little early or a little late in comparison to the grid?

Yes: "Offset" in the step editor (the button next to the piano roll)

just realized i said “shit “ notes. lol in that case wouldn’t it be the “ download” button 😉

supadom

@yowza said:

@vasilymilovidov said:

I don't have Drambo and was only wondering whether anyone had created music with Drambo that didn't sound like >electronic music. I tend to lump most electronic music into the EDM category which I know is lazy on my part.

but what do you want to do on ios? what tools do you need for your music? what results do you want to achieve?

I probably already have all the tools I need but when people constantly say "Drambo can do that" as if it can do everything, it makes me curious if there is something I'm missing. I already have a bunch of apps that could do electronic music if I wanted to do that and they don't require building things in a modular environment first. I think Drambo is probably not the app for me

Currently Drambo excels at midi and synthesis. Sampling is the side that the developer is going to work on in months to come.

If you’re content with what you have already I’d say don’t change it. For more organic sounds audio looping in Loopy Pro will probably give you better results with a sprinkle of effects here and there.

vasilymilovidov

@eross said:

@Grandbear said:

@eross said:
is there a way to shit notes, so they hit a little early or a little late in comparison to the grid?

Yes: "Offset" in the step editor (the button next to the piano roll)

just realized i said “shit “ notes. lol in that case wouldn’t it be the “ download” button 😉

I actually would like a module that shits lots of notes, followed by a module that quantizes note length (16n, 8nt, 4nd, etc)

yowza

@ohwell said:

@yowza Can’t resist jumping in, because my favorite use of Drambo is processing my acoustic instruments in this kind of way
That means tons of modulation, the envelope follower module, and the transient detector modules are my best friends.

Know your needs. Learn about the tools. Then experiment to see what works for your needs. That’s always the puzzle when reaching for music making tools you don’t already know. It’s not an iOS or electronic thing. And it’s certainly, absolutely not a musician vs non-musician thing.

Wow this is really amazing! I have not had time to watch the whole video yet and I have nothing but respect and admiration for what you're doing but right off the bat I can tell I would not use Drambo this particular way as I don't tend to need to treat acoustic instruments and the thought of taking the time to build that just kills my creative urge immediately which probably explains my aversion to modular in the first place.

I'm beginning to see that I'm a musician who likes to create music with sounds that are already there (guitar, keyboards) as opposed to folks who like to create those sounds as an end itself. Thank you for helping me see that!!!

eross

@bcrichards said:
@eross in the piano roll hit the hamburger menu. Turn off quantization there and you’re no longer tied to the grid.

@Grandbear said:

@eross said:
is there a way to shit notes, so they hit a little early or a little late in comparison to the grid?

Yes: "Offset" in the step editor (the button next to the piano roll)

does this oddest both before and after the grid lines? or just after