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  • ecouecou

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:

    @ecou said:
    I know absolutely nothing about those type of boxes and MPC. I guess you build patterns before and then you play them live ?

    yeah that's my case .. i basically mute/unmute tracks and tweak parameters ..

    To get analogy with iOS - MPC is like Beatmaker3, Elektron devices are more like Drambo just not modular but with fixed architecture

    Thanks for the analogy but I does not help me. I don't own Drambo 😱 and I don't use beatmaker3. I got BM3 free but I never really used it since I don't make rap music.

    You can make anything with BM3. It’s really just a daw with mpc pads interface contained within. But there’s also a piano interface. And it has audio tracks and AU and all that stuff.

    Good to know. I just opened it and found the piano interface. Are the Auv3 loaded in each mpc pad? The interface is very confusing. Seem like it would be a lot of work to learn.

  • db909db909
    edited August 2022

    @ecou said:

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:

    @ecou said:
    I know absolutely nothing about those type of boxes and MPC. I guess you build patterns before and then you play them live ?

    yeah that's my case .. i basically mute/unmute tracks and tweak parameters ..

    To get analogy with iOS - MPC is like Beatmaker3, Elektron devices are more like Drambo just not modular but with fixed architecture

    Thanks for the analogy but I does not help me. I don't own Drambo 😱 and I don't use beatmaker3. I got BM3 free but I never really used it since I don't make rap music.

    You can make anything with BM3. It’s really just a daw with mpc pads interface contained within. But there’s also a piano interface. And it has audio tracks and AU and all that stuff.

    Good to know. I just opened it and found the piano interface. Are the Auv3 loaded in each mpc pad? The interface is very confusing. Seem like it would be a lot of work to learn.

    Well if it’s too much work then it must not be worth doing

  • ecouecou

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:

    @ecou said:
    I know absolutely nothing about those type of boxes and MPC. I guess you build patterns before and then you play them live ?

    yeah that's my case .. i basically mute/unmute tracks and tweak parameters ..

    To get analogy with iOS - MPC is like Beatmaker3, Elektron devices are more like Drambo just not modular but with fixed architecture

    Thanks for the analogy but I does not help me. I don't own Drambo 😱 and I don't use beatmaker3. I got BM3 free but I never really used it since I don't make rap music.

    You can make anything with BM3. It’s really just a daw with mpc pads interface contained within. But there’s also a piano interface. And it has audio tracks and AU and all that stuff.

    Good to know. I just opened it and found the piano interface. Are the Auv3 loaded in each mpc pad? The interface is very confusing. Seem like it would be a lot of work to learn.

    Well if it’s too much work then it must not be worth doing

    Lol ! I am happy with Cubasis 2 and Auria. I am a guitar player and organ/keys player. Not a BeatMaker.

  • theconnactictheconnactic

    @ecou said:

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:

    @ecou said:
    I know absolutely nothing about those type of boxes and MPC. I guess you build patterns before and then you play them live ?

    yeah that's my case .. i basically mute/unmute tracks and tweak parameters ..

    To get analogy with iOS - MPC is like Beatmaker3, Elektron devices are more like Drambo just not modular but with fixed architecture

    Thanks for the analogy but I does not help me. I don't own Drambo 😱 and I don't use beatmaker3. I got BM3 free but I never really used it since I don't make rap music.

    You can make anything with BM3. It’s really just a daw with mpc pads interface contained within. But there’s also a piano interface. And it has audio tracks and AU and all that stuff.

    Good to know. I just opened it and found the piano interface. Are the Auv3 loaded in each mpc pad? The interface is very confusing. Seem like it would be a lot of work to learn.

    Well if it’s too much work then it must not be worth doing

    Lol ! I am happy with Cubasis 2 and Auria. I am a guitar player and organ/keys player. Not a BeatMaker.

    Cubanos and Auria it is. Today I gave BandLab a go and lost all audio and hours of work because the app neither auto saves not saves anything locally for you to recover manually. Pushing the limits of the platform is cool but if you got where I am - just wanting a solution that works reliably and less inclined to tinker or “try the new”, Cubasis and Auria it is. Perhaps also GarageBand.

  • ecouecou

    @theconnactic said:

    @ecou said:

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @db909 said:

    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:

    @ecou said:
    I know absolutely nothing about those type of boxes and MPC. I guess you build patterns before and then you play them live ?

    yeah that's my case .. i basically mute/unmute tracks and tweak parameters ..

    To get analogy with iOS - MPC is like Beatmaker3, Elektron devices are more like Drambo just not modular but with fixed architecture

    Thanks for the analogy but I does not help me. I don't own Drambo 😱 and I don't use beatmaker3. I got BM3 free but I never really used it since I don't make rap music.

    You can make anything with BM3. It’s really just a daw with mpc pads interface contained within. But there’s also a piano interface. And it has audio tracks and AU and all that stuff.

    Good to know. I just opened it and found the piano interface. Are the Auv3 loaded in each mpc pad? The interface is very confusing. Seem like it would be a lot of work to learn.

    Well if it’s too much work then it must not be worth doing

    Lol ! I am happy with Cubasis 2 and Auria. I am a guitar player and organ/keys player. Not a BeatMaker.

    Cubanos and Auria it is. Today I gave BandLab a go and lost all audio and hours of work because the app neither auto saves not saves anything locally for you to recover manually. Pushing the limits of the platform is cool but if you got where I am - just wanting a solution that works reliably and less inclined to tinker or “try the new”, Cubasis and Auria it is. Perhaps also GarageBand.

    Cubasis 2 not 3

  • echooperaechoopera

    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @echoopera said:
    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

    @echoopera thats quite a setup. Do you find there is a bit of cross over with the Tracker and Play with workflow in regards their fx functionality?

    I put CME Bluetooth midi devices in all my groove boxes (MPC One MC 101, Polyend Tracker, Microfreak) which works well. It’s super easy to route Bluetooth midi inside AUM using different midi fx apps to run the show.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @echoopera said:
    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

    Awesome! Do you still use your Maschine Plus?

  • alexwasashrimpalexwasashrimp

    DAWless makes sense for jamming. If you're writing tracks, a DAW is a useful tool. I'm trying to incorporate it into my workflow now for fx/recording/mixing/mastering.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @alexwasashrimp said:
    DAWless makes sense for jamming. If you're writing tracks, a DAW is a useful tool. I'm trying to incorporate it into my workflow now for fx/recording/mixing/mastering.

    I agree, DAWless is a great jamming tool - great for ideas!

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited August 2022

    @Jumpercollins said:

    @echoopera said:
    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

    @echoopera thats quite a setup. Do you find there is a bit of cross over with the Tracker and Play with workflow in regards their fx functionality?

    I put CME Bluetooth midi devices in all my groove boxes (MPC One MC 101, Polyend Tracker, Microfreak) which works well. It’s super easy to route Bluetooth midi inside AUM using different midi fx apps to run the show.

    Thanks. The Tracker and Play are entirely different instruments. They compliment one another and the Play serves as a great foundation for establishing rhythm in ways that are novel, unique and inspiring. It’s really helping to take my music in new directions.

  • echooperaechoopera

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:
    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

    Awesome! Do you still use your Maschine Plus?

    I have it. Just focusing on this setup for the moment.

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited August 2022

    @alexwasashrimp said:
    DAWless makes sense for jamming. If you're writing tracks, a DAW is a useful tool. I'm trying to incorporate it into my workflow now for fx/recording/mixing/mastering.

    @Stuntman_mike

    Fwiw i just used the SP404mk2 + iPad to make all these tracks. I recorded all my samples and recorded everything back live by muting/unmuting. I wish i had captured it all to a timeline but it was a great experiment in being in the moment and capturing the feel and flow of the music which was emerging from this free flowing process of listening, playing and building these songs. It was quite liberating.

    I only mention these set of songs because i feel like they are ‘complete’ and not just ‘jams’ as people like to think.

    Have a recorder ready ‘cause you never know what will manifest when you’re in the zone 😉

    https://on.soundcloud.com/1Fj85JouhBPQBXWU9

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins
    edited August 2022

    Might come in handy going DAWless

  • echooperaechoopera

    @Jumpercollins said:
    Might come in handy going DAWless

    From the review sounds like a bust because of stability issues.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @echoopera said:

    @Jumpercollins said:
    Might come in handy going DAWless

    From the review sounds like a bust because of stability issues.

    @echoopera agreed shame it’s unstable at least someone’s tested it.

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    This thread is really making me pull the trigger on the new Akai MPC61.

  • echooperaechoopera

    Yeah. I’ve had one of their previous interfaces and it was always a crap shoot on it working. I’ve always looked at them with uncertainty on their more modern gear. I want it to work, but having performance and setup issues just boggles my mind.

    Who are they making these devices for?

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited August 2022

    @echoopera said:

    @alexwasashrimp said:
    DAWless makes sense for jamming. If you're writing tracks, a DAW is a useful tool. I'm trying to incorporate it into my workflow now for fx/recording/mixing/mastering.

    @Stuntman_mike

    Fwiw i just used the SP404mk2 + iPad to make all these tracks. I recorded all my samples and recorded everything back live by muting/unmuting. I wish i had captured it all to a timeline but it was a great experiment in being in the moment and capturing the feel and flow of the music which was emerging from this free flowing process of listening, playing and building these songs. It was quite liberating.

    I only mention these set of songs because i feel like they are ‘complete’ and not just ‘jams’ as people like to think.

    Have a recorder ready ‘cause you never know what will manifest when you’re in the zone 😉

    https://on.soundcloud.com/1Fj85JouhBPQBXWU9

    Awesome work, makes sense 🙏🏻
    I love piano roll and grid like so many, but there’s nothing like jamming - especially when I just play without looking at screens even the MPC screen. Learning a few chord shapes is super fun or even using a controller like KeyStep where you can trigger chords with one finger. It’s like getting out the way of being “perfect” and allowing the musicality inside to come through my fingers. When I don’t think and just listen I hear the parts then it’s just figuring out how to play them!

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @Telstar5 said:
    This thread is really making me pull the trigger on the new Akai MPC61.

    It’s a game changer or “changier” (inside joke 😂)
    Do you have an MPC right now?

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited August 2022

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:
    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

    Awesome! Do you still use your Maschine Plus?

    I have it. Just focusing on this setup for the moment.

    I feel you, I am falling more in love with my MPC every time I go back to it!

    I’m curious: Is there anything about the MPC workflow you prefer over the Maschine+ workflow?

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited August 2022

    Tonight was a very good night with the crew:

    I played and sampled everything into the SP and recorded it back into AudioShare.

    This one is thick with Boards 🙏🏼💕:
    https://on.soundcloud.com/XmKXBiBdCvw8dUZUA

  • echooperaechoopera

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @echoopera said:
    Getting there

    I think Polyend needs 1 more instrument in their new form factor 😜

    Awesome! Do you still use your Maschine Plus?

    I have it. Just focusing on this setup for the moment.

    I feel you, I am falling more in love with my MPC every time I go back to it!

    I’m curious: Is there anything about the MPC workflow you prefer over the Maschine+ workflow?

    I think they both offer really great workflow. I find that the MPC is less CPU Hungry when working with it.

    I also have a playlist of MPC+iPad tracks on SoundCloud i collected while learning the MPC ropes:
    https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/8ZhZtBWg8z5XKU88A

  • StudioESStudioES
    edited August 2022

    ...

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins
    edited August 2022

    I use the MPC One in controller mode with a CME Bluetooth Midi Din in the back connected to my MBP. Arturia Keystep 32 also Bluetooth fitted. Audio out of MPC One into my TC Helicon Blender then into AUM and or Cubasis.

    Now I have access to all my VSTs on the MPC One with program change on the screen for preset selection which is great with the latest update and the sound piped directly into my DAW of choice usually AUM on the ipad.

    I also have a Polyend Tracker and a Microfreak Bluetooth up and connected to the Blender for additional sounds in or midi in. Or midi out from ipad.

    Lastly a launchpad pro is Bluetooth ready to use as a second controller or fader mixer as required. My options now are endless in regards midi routing and or sounds in or out.

    It’s just the jiggery pockery of setting up DAWs for Bluetooth midi input and audio routing which can take some time.

    AUM midi matrix is brilliant wish Cubasis 3 had something similar.

    BM3 mixer is also pretty good when it comes to audio tracks and monitoring and setup.

    Some iPad OS DAWs have more options for multitrack in than others.

    My setup constantly evolving trying out new things and learn it in the process.

    5 CME Bluetooth devices seem to be the limit anyone who is interested. I tried a 6 and the network drops on all devices.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    My latest Dawless setup

  • DMfanDMfan

    @cyberheater said:
    My latest Dawless setup

    Nice. You’ve set it up so you can use them all on 707 channels?

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • pedropedro
    edited July 16

    All 707 channels seems a bit excessive…
    (ok I ll show myself out)

    Edid: unless you’re rammstein, then that’s just the bass player

  • pedropedro

    Stuff I still need a Daw for (live is what I use but on windows):

    1 - elastic time/pitch stretch, so I can set homemade recordings of voice, guitar, percussion, whatever to be loopable. Or change the groove entirely of commercial songs or what happens to inspire me. It’s not like I’m a #1 hit or something, I don’t have to care about copyright cause I’m making zero money, just having fun jamming with my friends

    2 - that’s about it, everything else I can go DAWless

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    @DMfan said:

    @cyberheater said:
    My latest Dawless setup

    Nice. You’ve set it up so you can use them all on 707 channels?

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    I’m working out the midi side but I’m getting there. All going to be controlled by the 707.

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