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Icegear - Nambu (FM)

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  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @NeuM said:
    Despite Nambu being amazing in terms of options and control, I agree there are currently not enough presets covering bread and butter sounds any synth should have as part of their foundation. Perhaps we will be able to supplement the library of patches with this array of sounds from which to build even more creative variations.

    For example the “Kawai K5000” sound set, which was graciously offered here by a committed sound designer for the AddStation app helped ground the AddStation collection beautifully.

    Yes please. More presets, maybe Patchstorage page, maybe a preset randomize.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock
    edited August 2022

    @Spidericemidas said:
    @cokomairena @Edward_Alexander @espiegel123 Cool! Like I said in another recent thread the other day, it is extremely rare for me to go nuts here over any app and keep banging on about it over-excitedly. But in this case, when you actually examine and dig into what Satoshi has created for us, you should easily see why I've been going so crazy over it. Just look at the range of sound sources, operator matrix, modulation options...there are so many extra and fine controls over everything....the potential is massive! I got lost in it again last night just experimenting with different matrix configs and operator interactions linked to lfos and envelopes....it's just crazy. It's not just FM either, it can also be set up more like a normal subtractive synth....you can slot in resonators and filters.....omg it's just unbelievably versatile when you really look into it.

    Yea I’ve never heard you speak like that before, which is why I was immediately intrigued. Not to mention your sound design skills, free preset packs, and forum contributions give your statements a little more weight. At least to me, and apparently others as well. You rock @Spidericemidas

  • cokomairenacokomairena
    edited August 2022

    I wonder if this will replace simple synths for me once I learn it.

    If I want a custom sound I usually go to Zeeon, Poison 202 or even GrooveRider because they are fast and straightforward.

    This seems to have that potential too for the variety of operator modes and quick mods.

  • mjm1138mjm1138

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:
    Despite Nambu being amazing in terms of options and control, I agree there are currently not enough presets covering bread and butter sounds any synth should have as part of their foundation. Perhaps we will be able to supplement the library of patches with this array of sounds from which to build even more creative variations.

    For example the “Kawai K5000” sound set, which was graciously offered here by a committed sound designer for the AddStation app helped ground the AddStation collection beautifully.

    Yes please. More presets, maybe Patchstorage page, maybe a preset randomize.

    I’ll say this: I have BLEASS Omega and don’t find the preset randomizer very useful. Results are inaudible as often as not. I think maybe FM doesn’t lend itself well to randomization.

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    @mjm1138 said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:
    Despite Nambu being amazing in terms of options and control, I agree there are currently not enough presets covering bread and butter sounds any synth should have as part of their foundation. Perhaps we will be able to supplement the library of patches with this array of sounds from which to build even more creative variations.

    For example the “Kawai K5000” sound set, which was graciously offered here by a committed sound designer for the AddStation app helped ground the AddStation collection beautifully.

    Yes please. More presets, maybe Patchstorage page, maybe a preset randomize.

    I’ll say this: I have BLEASS Omega and don’t find the preset randomizer very useful. Results are inaudible as often as not. I think maybe FM doesn’t lend itself well to randomization.

    When you have 1 zillion sounds possible, the odds that the random patch that you generate sounds good are slim IMHO.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @mjm1138 said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:
    Despite Nambu being amazing in terms of options and control, I agree there are currently not enough presets covering bread and butter sounds any synth should have as part of their foundation. Perhaps we will be able to supplement the library of patches with this array of sounds from which to build even more creative variations.

    For example the “Kawai K5000” sound set, which was graciously offered here by a committed sound designer for the AddStation app helped ground the AddStation collection beautifully.

    Yes please. More presets, maybe Patchstorage page, maybe a preset randomize.

    I’ll say this: I have BLEASS Omega and don’t find the preset randomizer very useful. Results are inaudible as often as not. I think maybe FM doesn’t lend itself well to randomization.

    This seems correct. FM sounds can radically shift to unusable with the slightest tweaks sometimes.

  • ShabuduaShabudua

    @mjm1138 said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:
    Despite Nambu being amazing in terms of options and control, I agree there are currently not enough presets covering bread and butter sounds any synth should have as part of their foundation. Perhaps we will be able to supplement the library of patches with this array of sounds from which to build even more creative variations.

    For example the “Kawai K5000” sound set, which was graciously offered here by a committed sound designer for the AddStation app helped ground the AddStation collection beautifully.

    Yes please. More presets, maybe Patchstorage page, maybe a preset randomize.

    I’ll say this: I have BLEASS Omega and don’t find the preset randomizer very useful. Results are inaudible as often as not. I think maybe FM doesn’t lend itself well to randomization.

    It’s true. Maybe 1 in 10 Omega randomizations is viable. And yet, all my most interesting Omega patches started from randomizations. I just keep hitting the dice button until i get something Inspiring 🙂

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    @NeuM said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:
    Despite Nambu being amazing in terms of options and control, I agree there are currently not enough presets covering bread and butter sounds any synth should have as part of their foundation. Perhaps we will be able to supplement the library of patches with this array of sounds from which to build even more creative variations.

    For example the “Kawai K5000” sound set, which was graciously offered here by a committed sound designer for the AddStation app helped ground the AddStation collection beautifully.

    Yes please. More presets, maybe Patchstorage page, maybe a preset randomize.

    I’ll say this: I have BLEASS Omega and don’t find the preset randomizer very useful. Results are inaudible as often as not. I think maybe FM doesn’t lend itself well to randomization.

    This seems correct. FM sounds can radically shift to unusable with the slightest tweaks sometimes.

    Too much complexity in Additive/FM can quickly move to the most complex waveform, noise. Feedback will get you there very quickly.

  • david_2017david_2017

    Is it possible somewhere to modulate the AMP/ Master Volume with LFO? I haven't found any solution and started to hook up every single OSC to the LFO1 - I am pretty sure there is another solution ;)

  • SamuSamu

    @david_2017 said:
    Is it possible somewhere to modulate the AMP/ Master Volume with LFO? I haven't found any solution and started to hook up every single OSC to the LFO1 - I am pretty sure there is another solution ;)

    The LFO on each operator (left of the envelope) directly modulates its output for tremolo or gate type effects.
    It's enough to use it on the last operator in the 'operator chain'.

    Or pick an LFO and modulate the needed outputs with the same LFO in the Matrix.

    It all depends on your operator configuration (for example if you feed two or more operators thru a filter it's enough to modulate the filter modules output).

    It is a deep and complex synth so it's good to have a 'picture' of what one needs to accomplish.

    Cheers!

  • lazyasslazyass

    Excited to join here, Satoshi nailed it perfectly. I think It's his best synth and one of the most interesting synths on iOS in a while. I got Omega, ID 700 and Reason Algoritm but none of them gave me some pleasure to work with. Very easy to input and rewarding. Add here proper wavefolder (I know it hardly coming, but man can dream), more snappy curves, spice it up with randomization engine (like Reason Algoritm) and it will be perfect blend of west coast sound palette and classy UI.

  • david_2017david_2017

    Hey Samu, thanks. This matrix seems to be the secret I need to grasp. At the end of the day I am chasing something like this

    But In this case I was really only trying to make the sound pulsating with the LFO to the main output :)

    @Samu said:

    @david_2017 said:
    Is it possible somewhere to modulate the AMP/ Master Volume with LFO? I haven't found any solution and started to hook up every single OSC to the LFO1 - I am pretty sure there is another solution ;)

    The LFO on each operator (left of the envelope) directly modulates its output for tremolo or gate type effects.
    It's enough to use it on the last operator in the 'operator chain'.

    Or pick an LFO and modulate the needed outputs with the same LFO in the Matrix.

    It all depends on your operator configuration (for example if you feed two or more operators thru a filter it's enough to modulate the filter modules output).

    It is a deep and complex synth so it's good to have a 'picture' of what one needs to accomplish.

    Cheers!

  • SamuSamu

    @david_2017 said:
    Hey Samu, thanks. This matrix seems to be the secret I need to grasp. At the end of the day I am chasing something like this
    But In this case I was really only trying to make the sound pulsating with the LFO to the main output :)

    Super quick starter for you to tweak further on...
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9dandnfnqi6fji/wub.mp4?dl=0

    And the preset...
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0fvj9def36oy0n/Wub.Nambu_snd_pack?dl=0

    It's not a 100% replica of the video but in the same direction :sunglasses:

  • david_2017david_2017

    Away from Nambu rn but I am curious to give it a spin later this day. you rock. thanks for your time effort to help me! Deeply appreciate that, mate!

    @Samu said:

    @david_2017 said:
    Hey Samu, thanks. This matrix seems to be the secret I need to grasp. At the end of the day I am chasing something like this
    But In this case I was really only trying to make the sound pulsating with the LFO to the main output :)

    Super quick starter for you to tweak further on...
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/q9dandnfnqi6fji/wub.mp4?dl=0

    And the preset...
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0fvj9def36oy0n/Wub.Nambu_snd_pack?dl=0

    It's not a 100% replica of the video but in the same direction :sunglasses:

  • CamblerCambler

    All this excited talk and watching the various YouTube vids on this has given me a thirst for it! Is the current price introductory or the rrp? Only just got Lagrange so would like to respect it and give it some time first :)

  • godgod

    Caved and bought. Yeah, totally awesome, worth the 15 USD

  • Dante777Dante777

    @Cambler said:
    All this excited talk and watching the various YouTube vids on this has given me a thirst for it! Is the current price introductory or the rrp? Only just got Lagrange so would like to respect it and give it some time first :)

    intro price indeed. afair, till the end of August.

  • CamblerCambler

    @Dante777 said:

    @Cambler said:
    All this excited talk and watching the various YouTube vids on this has given me a thirst for it! Is the current price introductory or the rrp? Only just got Lagrange so would like to respect it and give it some time first :)

    intro price indeed. afair, till the end of August.

    Thanks @Dante777. I will have to cave just like god did :)

  • SlushSlush
    edited August 2022

    Lagrange seems lower in price now, used to be around €12, but now it’s the same price as the other Icegear synths.

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    @Montreal_Music said:
    I was curious:

    "Yoichiro Nambu (南部 陽一郎, Nanbu Yōichirō, 18 January 1921 – 5 July 2015) was a Japanese-American physicist and professor at the University of Chicago.[1] Known for his contributions to the field of theoretical physics, he was awarded half of the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2008 for the discovery in 1960 of the mechanism of spontaneous broken symmetry in subatomic physics, related at first to the strong interaction's chiral symmetry and later to the electroweak interaction and Higgs mechanism.[2] The other half was split equally between Makoto Kobayashi and Toshihide Maskawa "for the discovery of the origin of the broken symmetry which predicts the existence of at least three families of quarks in nature."[2]"

    Thanks Wiki.

    The IceGear dev told me that Nambu is actually his family name.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    Hype aside, there's something special about this synth. It really sucks me in, and surprises me each time. Little changes in parameters can create huge changes to the sound. It's very fun to program :)

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    I do wish there was an overall volume control so there was a way to quickly change the overall output volume with one knob (or modulation) … or have I overlooked it?

  • SamuSamu
    edited August 2022

    @espiegel123 said:
    I do wish there was an overall volume control so there was a way to quickly change the overall output volume with one knob (or modulation) … or have I overlooked it?

    Overall Volume is above the ARP button.
    (Lower left corner).

    In the AUv3 tap the grey thing at the left side to bring out the same thing with arp and volume.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    I do wish there was an overall volume control so there was a way to quickly change the overall output volume with one knob (or modulation) … or have I overlooked it?

    Overall Volume is above the ARP button.
    (Lower left corner).

    In the AUv3 tap the grey thing at the left side to bring out the same thing with arp and volume.

    Thanks!

  • oddSTARoddSTAR

    I'm generally a preset guy without a lot of free time. As much as I love Icegear stuff, I just can't commit myself to getting this based on all the excitement about operators and matrices when it has 40 presets that are reportedly pretty uninspiring. @Spidericemidas is tempting me quite a bit as I always love his work, but maybe I'd be even more inclined if I knew there was an AB Forum patch fest in the works...? :wink: (Been a while!)

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock
    edited August 2022

    @Slush said:
    Lagrange seems lower in price now, used to be around €12, but now it’s the same price as the other Icegear synths.

    Lagrange and their 3 FX apps are all currently on sale. I think they are $2 off each, at least Lagrange is. I’m guessing this is due to the release of Nambu, but not sure.

  • SpidericemidasSpidericemidas

    @oddSTAR said:
    I'm generally a preset guy without a lot of free time. As much as I love Icegear stuff, I just can't commit myself to getting this based on all the excitement about operators and matrices when it has 40 presets that are reportedly pretty uninspiring. @Spidericemidas is tempting me quite a bit as I always love his work, but maybe I'd be even more inclined if I knew there was an AB Forum patch fest in the works...? :wink: (Been a while!)

    I'd love to see an ABF patch fest for this too! I'm planning more than one bank for this beast as there's just sooo much scope for sound designs. But, it'll take me quite a while as I only get a few hours a day on the iPad with my schedule the way it is these days.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2022

    @Spidericemidas said:

    @oddSTAR said:
    I'm generally a preset guy without a lot of free time. As much as I love Icegear stuff, I just can't commit myself to getting this based on all the excitement about operators and matrices when it has 40 presets that are reportedly pretty uninspiring. @Spidericemidas is tempting me quite a bit as I always love his work, but maybe I'd be even more inclined if I knew there was an AB Forum patch fest in the works...? :wink: (Been a while!)

    I'd love to see an ABF patch fest for this too! I'm planning more than one bank for this beast as there's just sooo much scope for sound designs. But, it'll take me quite a while as I only get a few hours a day on the iPad with my schedule the way it is these days.

    With your reputation and skills, it's a shame you cannot dedicate all your time to sound design. You're like the Beethoven of sound designers.

  • SpidericemidasSpidericemidas

    @NeuM Yeah I'd love to, if it could only earn me a decent enough living. I could do much better and more designs if I had more time.
    Microbiology is not my passion, but it's guaranteed to cover the bills adequately!

  • mojozartmojozart

    Agree that more presets are needed, but a more useful preset browser, such as a tag cloud or table to organize the presets, is a prerequisite.

    That would go a long way toward making Nambu a go-to workhorse synth.


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