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  • Absolutely. Much respect, Thanks for listening. I purchased as soon as I saw the update. We are all used to any new iOS product on the store app that is an intro price saying it’s an intro price and for how long so I really appreciate that you took what we shared into consideration. I’ll def sign up though for future updates . Loving this app and very appreciative that you are in the forum in communication with us.

    @Gavinski said:

    @eyalamir said:
    We've taken the comments here to heart, and reverted to the old price until June 15th.
    We will also send out a newsletter about it.

    Hope that somewhat helps. :)

    Boss move Eyal! You guys continue to impress ♥

  • edited June 2023

    Really great customer service thanks

    @eyalamir said:
    We've taken the comments here to heart, and reverted to the old price until June 15th.
    We will also send out a newsletter about it.

    Hope that somewhat helps. :)

  • edited June 2023

    @eyalamir Your positive response to our feedback convinced me ... purchased :)

  • edited June 2023

    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

  • @craftycurate said:
    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

    Maybe because that’s not how the menus work - as I mentioned in my vid.

    This is how they work. Let’s take the presets menu. Tap the menu, the submenus like ‘artist’ etc appear. Now long press on one of these and slide your finger to the right to choose the exact preset you want. When you RELEASE your finger, it will be chosen. A bit different from what we’re generally used to, but that’s how it is 🤷‍♂️

  • @Gavinski said:

    @craftycurate said:
    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

    Maybe because that’s not how the menus work - as I mentioned in my vid.

    This is how they work. Let’s take the presets menu. Tap the menu, the submenus like ‘artist’ etc appear. Now long press on one of these and slide your finger to the right to choose the exact preset you want. When you RELEASE your finger, it will be chosen. A bit different from what we’re generally used to, but that’s how it is 🤷‍♂️

    Yup I get all that, and have been doing that.

    It would be a more intuitive user experience if a tap either:

    • selected that menu item (if it’s a preset/kit etc), closing the menu,
    • or opened the submenu, and left the menu on screen, allowing a different selection to be made without having to start over, which means returning to the top, remembering which submenu you were looking at when the menu disappeared.

    “That’s how it is” could apply to many “features” whose operation we’ve queried on this forum to be honest and it seems reasonable to at least bring it up.

    If this is how the dev intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

  • edited June 2023

    Duplicate post

  • @craftycurate said:

    If this is how @eyalamir intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

    This is just a limitation of how menus work in the cross platform framework we're using.

    It's not something I really love TBH, so it's likely that at some point we'll replace those menus with better ones we'll write and design from scratch that have better touch experience.

  • @craftycurate said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @craftycurate said:
    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

    Maybe because that’s not how the menus work - as I mentioned in my vid.

    This is how they work. Let’s take the presets menu. Tap the menu, the submenus like ‘artist’ etc appear. Now long press on one of these and slide your finger to the right to choose the exact preset you want. When you RELEASE your finger, it will be chosen. A bit different from what we’re generally used to, but that’s how it is 🤷‍♂️

    Yup I get all that, and have been doing that.

    It would be a more intuitive user experience if a tap either:

    • selected that menu item (if it’s a preset/kit etc), closing the menu,
    • or opened the submenu, and left the menu on screen, allowing a different selection to be made without having to start over, which means returning to the top, remembering which submenu you were looking at when the menu disappeared.

    “That’s how it is” could apply to many “features” whose operation we’ve queried on this forum to be honest and it seems reasonable to at least bring it up.

    If this is how the dev intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

    @craftycurate said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @craftycurate said:
    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

    Maybe because that’s not how the menus work - as I mentioned in my vid.

    This is how they work. Let’s take the presets menu. Tap the menu, the submenus like ‘artist’ etc appear. Now long press on one of these and slide your finger to the right to choose the exact preset you want. When you RELEASE your finger, it will be chosen. A bit different from what we’re generally used to, but that’s how it is 🤷‍♂️

    Yup I get all that, and have been doing that.

    It would be a more intuitive user experience if a tap either:

    • selected that menu item (if it’s a preset/kit etc), closing the menu,
    • or opened the submenu, and left the menu on screen, allowing a different selection to be made without having to start over, which means returning to the top, remembering which submenu you were looking at when the menu disappeared.

    “That’s how it is” could apply to many “features” whose operation we’ve queried on this forum to be honest and it seems reasonable to at least bring it up.

    If this is how the dev intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

    Oh don't get me wrong, I totally agree that I don't like the preset system much. What is it with apps and preset systems. They often seem to be the weakest link in one way or the other!

    Glad you're considering other options @eyalamir

  • @Gavinski said:

    @craftycurate said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @craftycurate said:
    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

    Maybe because that’s not how the menus work - as I mentioned in my vid.

    This is how they work. Let’s take the presets menu. Tap the menu, the submenus like ‘artist’ etc appear. Now long press on one of these and slide your finger to the right to choose the exact preset you want. When you RELEASE your finger, it will be chosen. A bit different from what we’re generally used to, but that’s how it is 🤷‍♂️

    Yup I get all that, and have been doing that.

    It would be a more intuitive user experience if a tap either:

    • selected that menu item (if it’s a preset/kit etc), closing the menu,
    • or opened the submenu, and left the menu on screen, allowing a different selection to be made without having to start over, which means returning to the top, remembering which submenu you were looking at when the menu disappeared.

    “That’s how it is” could apply to many “features” whose operation we’ve queried on this forum to be honest and it seems reasonable to at least bring it up.

    If this is how the dev intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

    @craftycurate said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @craftycurate said:
    I have reported the issue below to Modalics, but I wonder if anyone can reproduce this:

    I have noticed what I think is a bug when using the menus, whether the preset menu, or Randomisation menu or Drum Kit menu.

    1. Long press on any menu item to open its submenu (OK so far)
    2. Long press on a different menu item to open its submenu … menu disappears!

    This is 100% reproducible. The second long press always shuts the whole menu rather than opening the submenu.

    IPad Pro 2017, iOS 16.4.1, Standalone version of app.

    Can anyone reproduce?

    Maybe because that’s not how the menus work - as I mentioned in my vid.

    This is how they work. Let’s take the presets menu. Tap the menu, the submenus like ‘artist’ etc appear. Now long press on one of these and slide your finger to the right to choose the exact preset you want. When you RELEASE your finger, it will be chosen. A bit different from what we’re generally used to, but that’s how it is 🤷‍♂️

    Yup I get all that, and have been doing that.

    It would be a more intuitive user experience if a tap either:

    • selected that menu item (if it’s a preset/kit etc), closing the menu,
    • or opened the submenu, and left the menu on screen, allowing a different selection to be made without having to start over, which means returning to the top, remembering which submenu you were looking at when the menu disappeared.

    “That’s how it is” could apply to many “features” whose operation we’ve queried on this forum to be honest and it seems reasonable to at least bring it up.

    If this is how the dev intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

    Oh don't get me wrong, I totally agree that I don't like the preset system much. What is it with apps and preset systems. They often seem to be the weakest link in one way or the other!

    👍

    @eyalamir said:

    @craftycurate said:

    If this is how @eyalamir intends it to work that’s fine, will just roll with that, but it is quite an unusual method of interaction, so worthy querying i think. It wont spoil my enjoyment of this great app either way 😬

    This is just a limitation of how menus work in the cross platform framework we're using.

    It's not something I really love TBH, so it's likely that at some point we'll replace those menus with better ones we'll write and design from scratch that have better touch experience.

    No worries ... I did wonder if it was a feature of the framework. It's definitely usable in the meantime 😬

  • @Gavinski said:
    My big request would be to have polymeter options, not just polyrhythm! I'm genuinely very surprised you can't set different lengths for different lanes in such an otherwise sophisticated app

    Sorry if you have already considered this, but one way to achieve it is by simply having two Beat Scholars running on AUM, each one with a different time signature. It works pretty well. I know it is not what you were asking for, but I mentioned this just in case you (or other people) have not considered this workaround in order to have polymeters using this app :) .

  • @Gavinski
    By the way, your video explaining this app is excellent, it convinced me of buying it :D

  • @cfour said:
    @Gavinski
    By the way, your video explaining this app is excellent, it convinced me of buying it :D

    Watch the devs videos too. The convinced me to buy the desktop version (and the iPad one)

  • @audiblevideo said:

    @cfour said:
    @Gavinski
    By the way, your video explaining this app is excellent, it convinced me of buying it :D

    Watch the devs videos too. The convinced me to buy the desktop version (and the iPad one)

    Thanks! I will check those out. So far I bought the iPAD version

  • @cfour said:

    @Gavinski said:
    My big request would be to have polymeter options, not just polyrhythm! I'm genuinely very surprised you can't set different lengths for different lanes in such an otherwise sophisticated app

    Sorry if you have already considered this, but one way to achieve it is by simply having two Beat Scholars running on AUM, each one with a different time signature. It works pretty well. I know it is not what you were asking for, but I mentioned this just in case you (or other people) have not considered this workaround in order to have polymeters using this app :) .

    Yes - I think I might actually have published a short video demoing this a few days ago somewhere. It’s definitely a doable workaround, though not ideal, but yes, it’s possible and it’s very cool! You can maybe just have a system where you give presets a name followed by a number 1 / 2 / 3 etc to remind yourself it is part of a polymetric multi-app preset, cheers!

  • @cfour said:
    @Gavinski
    By the way, your video explaining this app is excellent, it convinced me of buying it :D

    Thanks! Went on a bit longer than I expected as this app is deeper than it looks - glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Knoepfe said:

    @OrLub said:

    @Knoepfe said:

    @OrLub said:

    @Knoepfe said:
    @OrLub
    Am I the only one who can‘t run Beat Scholar? What am I missing?

    @Knoepfe said:
    What‘s wrong with me? Couldn’t made a single hit yet…

    (Edit): I can‘t even buy it. (No IAP restriction). Nagscreen keeps nagging only…

    Hey -

    What do you mean? What happens when you tap "Start Trial"? or the iPad price?

    Hey

    it happens that what you see in the gif I made - nothing. Only the link to your website has a function. I reinstalled it and I even switched the device off and on gain ;-)

    Gif is from standalone mode, in AUM I hear a beat running but the screen ist the same. With the same non-response…

    I checked turning iap restrictions on and off again, I can‘t buy it ;-)

    🤔

    Huh.. I'll try and look into it.
    This is the only report of this issue we got so far.

    Do you have a Laptop/Desktop Mac with the same app store user that you can try and activate with?

    Yes but still on 10.10 ;-)
    Maybe I‘ll can organize a workaround on the weekend. I‘ll let you know.
    Cheers!

    Something is not quite right here with me. Even after the update, I can't do a trial. But at least I can buy the app - which I have now done. And even then the nagscreen did not disappear, only after restart and "Restore purchase". Now it seems to run, hope it stays like this ;-)

  • I bought Beat Scholar but it keeps popping up the payment page. I click to buy and Apple says you already bought this app would you like to download it for free.

  • @ecou said:
    I bought Beat Scholar but it keeps popping up the payment page. I click to buy and Apple says you already bought this app would you like to download it for free.

    Yeah, I’ve purchased it too but still keep seeing the payment popup as well. @eyalamir ?

  • edited June 2023

    One of the reasons I don’t like Iap buys for licenses and just like buying the app itself (like animoog seems like the same App Store issue I was referring to hotstrange)

    *dont get me wrong, I think it’s the most incredible drum machine I’ve yet to try

  • I'm not sure why that happens yet, but I will investigate.
    It's possible that reinstalling the app/restarting the machine would solve it but I'm still unsure what the issue is - possible some corrupt caches if you've used the trial on the same machine, or something.

  • @eyalamir said:
    I'm not sure why that happens yet, but I will investigate.
    It's possible that reinstalling the app/restarting the machine would solve it but I'm still unsure what the issue is - possible some corrupt caches if you've used the trial on the same machine, or something.

    Hello, this happened to me two days in a row. I always shutdown my iPad at night. I did do the re install. I clicked on the trial at first but did not wanna to sign up. So I bought it instead.

  • wix> @ecou said:

    @eyalamir said:
    I'm not sure why that happens yet, but I will investigate.
    It's possible that reinstalling the app/restarting the machine would solve it but I'm still unsure what the issue is - possible some corrupt caches if you've used the trial on the same machine, or something.

    Hello, this happened to me two days in a row. I always shutdown my iPad at night. I did do the re install. I clicked on the trial at first but did not wanna to sign up. So I bought it instead.

    Would you mind please sharing an image of the exact window you're getting with me?
    Please send it to [email protected]

    Thanks!

  • edited June 2023

    @eyalamir said:
    wix> @ecou said:

    @eyalamir said:
    I'm not sure why that happens yet, but I will investigate.
    It's possible that reinstalling the app/restarting the machine would solve it but I'm still unsure what the issue is - possible some corrupt caches if you've used the trial on the same machine, or something.

    Hello, this happened to me two days in a row. I always shutdown my iPad at night. I did do the re install. I clicked on the trial at first but did not wanna to sign up. So I bought it instead.

    Would you mind please sharing an image of the exact window you're getting with me?
    Please send it to [email protected]

    Thanks!

    It’s this screen. I will send it to your mail too.

  • Also had a lot of nightmares with this. In my case, a restart yesterday seemed to fix it but I'll have to see how it behaves today

  • It's definitely extremely strange to see that 'restore purchases' isn't immediately (or within a few seconds) validating the license, and I can't reproduce it on my device with my own user or sandbox users, etc, so its very confusing.

    Hopefully I will be able to gather more bits of information about this soon.

  • @ecou said:

    @eyalamir said:
    wix> @ecou said:

    @eyalamir said:
    I'm not sure why that happens yet, but I will investigate.
    It's possible that reinstalling the app/restarting the machine would solve it but I'm still unsure what the issue is - possible some corrupt caches if you've used the trial on the same machine, or something.

    Hello, this happened to me two days in a row. I always shutdown my iPad at night. I did do the re install. I clicked on the trial at first but did not wanna to sign up. So I bought it instead.

    Would you mind please sharing an image of the exact window you're getting with me?
    Please send it to [email protected]

    Thanks!

    It’s this screen. I will send it to your mail too.

    Thank you again for sharing that.
    What I did notice that this screenshot has the old/outdated price.

    That hints that the last successful connection to the App Store wasn't made in the last couple of days.
    I suspect deleting the app, then reinstalling (and maybe restarting?) should solve this issue.

  • @eyalamir said:

    @ecou said:

    @eyalamir said:
    wix> @ecou said:

    @eyalamir said:
    I'm not sure why that happens yet, but I will investigate.
    It's possible that reinstalling the app/restarting the machine would solve it but I'm still unsure what the issue is - possible some corrupt caches if you've used the trial on the same machine, or something.

    Hello, this happened to me two days in a row. I always shutdown my iPad at night. I did do the re install. I clicked on the trial at first but did not wanna to sign up. So I bought it instead.

    Would you mind please sharing an image of the exact window you're getting with me?
    Please send it to [email protected]

    Thanks!

    It’s this screen. I will send it to your mail too.

    Thank you again for sharing that.
    What I did notice that this screenshot has the old/outdated price.

    That hints that the last successful connection to the App Store wasn't made in the last couple of days.
    I suspect deleting the app, then reinstalling (and maybe restarting?) should solve this issue.

    My one had the new price but still ran into issues. Restart seems to have even enough to fix it tho

  • @Gavinski said:
    My one had the new price but still ran into issues. Restart seems to have even enough to fix it tho

    Right. The price itself isn't the bug, it just that connection to the App Store seems to have failed at a certain point, and I've observed that Apple sometimes 'block' store connections out of an app for a little while.

    Because there was a price change, that's just some indication for me on when this might have happened without checking other specifics about the device or the behavior of the app.

  • Got you 👍 > @eyalamir said:

    @Gavinski said:
    My one had the new price but still ran into issues. Restart seems to have even enough to fix it tho

    Right. The price itself isn't the bug, it just that connection to the App Store seems to have failed at a certain point, and I've observed that Apple sometimes 'block' store connections out of an app for a little while.

    Because there was a price change, that's just some indication for me on when this might have happened without checking other specifics about the device or the behavior of the app.

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