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Anyone into the WOO here? UFOs etc?
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Sorry to be a PITA but has this anything to do with audio and music?
What’s next? Cooking, politics, crochet? I’d prefer football even if my team’s just lost the Champions final 🥵
Basically: testimonies from over 750 credible sources (e.g. generals, commanders of nuclear facilities, members of UAP taskforces, whistleblowers etc.) some appearing in public in this video, details of some of the 200+ retrieved craft, comparison between alien craft and man-made replicas, and an explanation of the purpose of their aims: to bring to justice the ‘black ops’ going on behind government, and military knowledge, to present all evidence to congress, and avoid the potential catastrophic consequences these black ops could have.
If you’re genuinely interested in this subject then I’d recommend watching the whole thing.
This is not a bunch of UFO freaks or snake-oil salesmen, this is serious potatoes.
That's why there's an 'other' category here in the forum. You can choose in settings to ignore posts categorised as other, etc, so it sounds like you should probably do that 👍
Thanks didn’t know that.
The music of the spheres, man...
but this thread predates the forum's move into specialising only in Audio... Once upon a time, there was a glorious 'off-topic' button... It was abused, we took it too far, too fast and people were hurt. A lot of people.
Yes it was very serious potatoes. Even if 10% is verifiable then it’s game over. Full on disclosure is on it’s way.
In a way this disclosure is remarkably similar to the depiction by H.G. Wells in relation to Horsall Common.
Greer claims he is a reptilian? As in Earth reptile or outa space reptile...?
I agree, those first 5 guests had some of the most fascinating stories I've heard in a while. It was very emotionally charged.
I was p*ssed that Greer interrupted the 3rd talker, (Steven Digna Jnr) from his amazing personal story rather than cut some of his own considerable ego fluff time. Makes me want to watch a full 2hr presentation by Digna.
Greer makes me squirm, but he has to be applauded at putting this together and giving those men a platform to tell their stories.
Watch (47:20) - (2:05:55)
78 incredible minutes!
I think the legal actions will bring a lot of new witnesses out of the woodwork, since they're going after anyone that has been enabling the cover-up, and they'll want to be seen as being co-operative.
I can't see it on their web site anymore. I watched it about 24 hours ago and it was there. Maybe there was a legal issue...?
Yes it’s just fragmented parts now.
This is worth listening to for anyone interested in the subject:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/audio/2023/jun/08/why-is-nasa-looking-into-ufos-and-what-has-it-found-so-far-podcast
It's a useful perspective from the chairman of the NASA committee assigned to investigate UFO sightings. It's interesting because they are independent and have a job to find out more about the subject. I also would think that if anyone has a good chance of coming across alien technology it would be NASA. (he's also not selling a book, or product etc)
Unfortunately they haven't found anything yet which indicates alien technology and so far they almost always all turn out to be either balloons or other planes or optical illusions, but sometimes they do turn out to be interesting scientific phenomena so more money should be put into investigating unusual events because of course it is interesting whatever they are.
Some things noted:
The instruments on the planes are not scientific instruments and are not good at recording unusual anomalies.
The pilots by themselves don't make reliable witnesses.
An astronaut who was also previously a very experienced pilot recounted stories including of a co-pilot who was convinced he saw a spacecraft (but it was actually a Bart Simpson Balloon when they examined it). And another story whilst in space on the shuttle when they mistook something they thought was really close but was actually the international space station over 80 miles away.
But tellingly he explains that the enviroment they are working in is so condusive to optical illusions.
I think astronauts views on this subject are very useful because they are not just pilots but also scientists who are less likely to leap to exotic conclusions.
He also says that NASA is not very good at hiding anything so it would have leaked if they had anything to hide.
Also, people should use their phones more to record things to help. Because they have so many useful recording functions.
The problem is the stigma that there is in investigating these things from both sides. Threats from believers when are revealed to be ordinary explanations and also from non believers who think they are wasting time and money investigating. Unfortunately there's a lot of harrassment and bullying around the subject. It's a problem becuase pilots aren't reporting balloons and other objects which could a be a potential hazard to aviation because of the stigma.
So they should be no stigma involved in investingating these phenomena as of course it's fascinating from a science perspective whatever the results are. But keep an open mind about what they are, it's often not what anyone expects!
(Podcast was recorded before the so-called whistleblower came out but they don't know anything about these "revelations")
I think when this all unfolds there's going to be a bit where NASA turns around and says "Yeah we did know but we were told to keep quiet about it. Sorry about that. Carry on. You can still trust us bro".
Absolutely agree, they’re far from independent, plenty of NASA employees and astronauts attest. Same thing with other nations space programs.
Watched a bit of that 3-hr vid. About 40 mins. Hope I'm not setting myself up for hate here, but I found it very boring. Far too much info. I guess I'll be waiting for actual evidence rather than anecdotes, but I'm not sure what actual evidence would mean in the age we live in with so much tech ability to fake the real. Video evidence will certainly never cut it in the age of deep fake. I guess it would mean seeing the fruits of this alien tech, as in actual free energy for all etc.
In the meantime, I still worry that this - like almost all news - is a distraction from the only thing that really matters: the need to scale back our lifestyles dramatically to cut climate change ASAP.
Much more I'd like to say, but it would risk getting too political
I agree that this is by far the biggest issue we are facing at the moment. We are facing a clear and urgent existential threat.
Maybe we should just start blowing up pipelines?
Exactly this unfortunately. The illusion of NASA being independent needs a good shaking, methinks.
An emotional, info-filed anecdote, where you can look into that persons eyes, hear their tone, read their body language etc;
for me, is way more evidential than any photo, video, or phyical object that they could pull out for display.
Those are the moments where my gut instinct gets goosebumps.
Not dismissing anybody else's viewpoint at all btw.
A more serious look at the subject
HA!!!
Pretty funny - but I guess at the same time they also got the story correct.
I sometimes wonder how sceptics accept that the Earth isn't actually flat, since they've only got photos and videos as proof - though I guess many still don't.
For a casual passer-by (me) perspective, I found the Greer thing mostly tedious, quite pompous, very self-regarding and occasionally hilarious. Some of the anecdotes sounded more like confirmation bias than anything extra terrestrial, and the less said about the earthquake machine / interstellar traffic control centre the better. I did find Digna Jnr pretty compelling and very moving though.
That's not to poop on what anyone else thought of it by the way. If this stuff is your bag, I'd imagine it was quite interesting. As an outsider though, Greer himself was the main problem I had with it, not the testifiers.
I saw Greer in Disclosure a few years back and found him to be very melodramatic. I agree with FastGhost, his efforts in front of the camera do more harm than good.
SpookyZoo, Nasa is as independent as NPR. If you are funded by the man how autonomous can you be? There’s always rules, regulations and over sight to deal with…plus funding. How is your budget going to look next year if you are kicking dirt in his face this year?
And I just might have to appropriate “ NO 1 FOR ECCLESIASTICAL SPACESHIP SHENANIGANS” from The Daily Star. Stan Lee must be their EIC.
Because, we don’t only have photos … the Earth being round provided a much more consistent explanation of a lot of observed phenomena than the earth being flat. It was figured out long long ago and provided better explanations than the earth being flat for a host of things people observed.
I don’t know if this is hilarious or saddening, they ran the NAZI lines to South America, so to hush up the possible existence of ‘Demons’ which depiction still persists with some in the DoD to this day, so insiders say.
Woah Tiger. What @espiegel123 said above. We often disagree but on this he's bang on the money