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Gospel Musicians Splat to Clat.

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  • @tahiche said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @eylvy said:
    How can I disable midi groove for any preset? When I try to live record a drum sequence, the midi groove is played on top of it and it's very hard to pay attention to what you're recording. I know I can just create a set of drums but I wonder about the built-in presets. Oh, and I tried Midi Note Mute - that didn't work so it's not that.

    I also run into this and I believe it should be addressed ( @GospelMusicians ?).
    There seems no intuitive way to disable the midi file associated to a preset. I found a clunky workaround.
    Press the edit folder icon on the midi popup, that unloads the midi file. IMO It makes no UX sense. There should be a straightforward way like selecting “None”. I’d link this with my comment above about detaching the kit from the midi groove, the midi popup as is doesn’t make too much sense.

    You can just tap the blank area below the MIDI file name to deselect it.

    Ouch!. So that’s what I was doing!. 😂 Is it obvious?. It isn’t for me, clearly… thanks!.

    No no, sorry if I sounded condescending, it wasn’t at all obvious. I discovered it by accident jabbing at the screen in frustration 😀

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @eylvy said:
    How can I disable midi groove for any preset? When I try to live record a drum sequence, the midi groove is played on top of it and it's very hard to pay attention to what you're recording. I know I can just create a set of drums but I wonder about the built-in presets. Oh, and I tried Midi Note Mute - that didn't work so it's not that.

    I also run into this and I believe it should be addressed ( @GospelMusicians ?).
    There seems no intuitive way to disable the midi file associated to a preset. I found a clunky workaround.
    Press the edit folder icon on the midi popup, that unloads the midi file. IMO It makes no UX sense. There should be a straightforward way like selecting “None”. I’d link this with my comment above about detaching the kit from the midi groove, the midi popup as is doesn’t make too much sense.

    You can just tap the blank area below the MIDI file name to deselect it.

    Ouch!. So that’s what I was doing!. 😂 Is it obvious?. It isn’t for me, clearly… thanks!.

    No no, sorry if I sounded condescending, it wasn’t at all obvious. I discovered it by accident jabbing at the screen in frustration 😀

    Thank you two, I made a 30 second video on the issue

  • edited November 2022

    @eylvy said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @eylvy said:
    How can I disable midi groove for any preset? When I try to live record a drum sequence, the midi groove is played on top of it and it's very hard to pay attention to what you're recording. I know I can just create a set of drums but I wonder about the built-in presets. Oh, and I tried Midi Note Mute - that didn't work so it's not that.

    I also run into this and I believe it should be addressed ( @GospelMusicians ?).
    There seems no intuitive way to disable the midi file associated to a preset. I found a clunky workaround.
    Press the edit folder icon on the midi popup, that unloads the midi file. IMO It makes no UX sense. There should be a straightforward way like selecting “None”. I’d link this with my comment above about detaching the kit from the midi groove, the midi popup as is doesn’t make too much sense.

    You can just tap the blank area below the MIDI file name to deselect it.

    Ouch!. So that’s what I was doing!. 😂 Is it obvious?. It isn’t for me, clearly… thanks!.

    No no, sorry if I sounded condescending, it wasn’t at all obvious. I discovered it by accident jabbing at the screen in frustration 😀

    Thank you two, I made a 30 second video on the issue

    There is a setting to start the pattern with the daw transport, just disable it

  • @cokomairena said:

    @eylvy said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @tahiche said:

    @eylvy said:
    How can I disable midi groove for any preset? When I try to live record a drum sequence, the midi groove is played on top of it and it's very hard to pay attention to what you're recording. I know I can just create a set of drums but I wonder about the built-in presets. Oh, and I tried Midi Note Mute - that didn't work so it's not that.

    I also run into this and I believe it should be addressed ( @GospelMusicians ?).
    There seems no intuitive way to disable the midi file associated to a preset. I found a clunky workaround.
    Press the edit folder icon on the midi popup, that unloads the midi file. IMO It makes no UX sense. There should be a straightforward way like selecting “None”. I’d link this with my comment above about detaching the kit from the midi groove, the midi popup as is doesn’t make too much sense.

    You can just tap the blank area below the MIDI file name to deselect it.

    Ouch!. So that’s what I was doing!. 😂 Is it obvious?. It isn’t for me, clearly… thanks!.

    No no, sorry if I sounded condescending, it wasn’t at all obvious. I discovered it by accident jabbing at the screen in frustration 😀

    Thank you two, I made a 30 second video on the issue

    There is a setting to start the pattern with the daw transport, just disable it

    Yes. that! 10x a lot

  • edited November 2022

    @GospelMusicians
    1. assigning filter cut parameter (MAP) in Drambo and using that mapped knob rezults in heavy CPU usage.
    Modulating mapped parameters is inpossible due to CPU spikes/audio distortion.
    2. Changing user saved Presets give constant asking „to save changes?”, without option to disable this (even with no use external auv3 parameters).
    3. How to smartly add 100 user hihats, 200 snares, what is best practice….?

  • 2 things if I may:

    • Slap to Vlat doesn’t respond to midi velocity, right?.
      I did read this from the devs:

      1. We have an update as well that is velocity sensitive depending on where you hit the pad. Lower on the pad is software and hither on the pad is louder. Touch sensitivity as far as a "hit" on the iPad is very difficult and couldn't pull this off.

      But that’s talking about the actual pads. The app doesn’t seem to respond to midi vel from any sequencer/keyboard, to me that’s a big one.

    • Whats the deal with the “root note” ?. I can only seem to switch the octave (Yamaha middle C3…) on standalone, not auv3. And even though it says C3 it corresponds to C4 on AUM keyboard. Most apps have root note at 36 (C2) while this is 60. Means that I haven’t a sequencer that works “out of the box” with this mapping. Probably not a huge deal but a more common “C2” would be helpful.

  • @tahiche said:
    2 things if I may:

    • Slap to Vlat doesn’t respond to midi velocity, right?.
      I did read this from the devs:
      > 5. We have an update as well that is velocity sensitive depending on where you hit the pad. Lower on the pad is software and hither on the pad is louder. Touch sensitivity as far as a "hit" on the iPad is very difficult and couldn't pull this off.
      But that’s talking about the actual pads. The app doesn’t seem to respond to midi vel from any sequencer/keyboard, to me that’s a big one.

    Turn AMT knob to hear velocity effect on AMP section

  • @szczyp said:

    @tahiche said:
    2 things if I may:

    • Slap to Vlat doesn’t respond to midi velocity, right?.
      I did read this from the devs:
      > 5. We have an update as well that is velocity sensitive depending on where you hit the pad. Lower on the pad is software and hither on the pad is louder. Touch sensitivity as far as a "hit" on the iPad is very difficult and couldn't pull this off.
      But that’s talking about the actual pads. The app doesn’t seem to respond to midi vel from any sequencer/keyboard, to me that’s a big one.

    Turn AMT knob to hear velocity effect on AMP section

    Thanks 🙏
    I think this should definately be a global setting and it should be set to “on” by default. As it is you have to change every single sound in a kit to respond to midi vel?. Not only that, but you have to do it all over every time you load a new preset. It’s great to have this per-piece level of control but imo it’s far more important to get the app to respond globally first, then details after.

  • @tahiche said:

    @szczyp said:

    @tahiche said:
    2 things if I may:

    • Slap to Vlat doesn’t respond to midi velocity, right?.
      I did read this from the devs:
      > 5. We have an update as well that is velocity sensitive depending on where you hit the pad. Lower on the pad is software and hither on the pad is louder. Touch sensitivity as far as a "hit" on the iPad is very difficult and couldn't pull this off.
      But that’s talking about the actual pads. The app doesn’t seem to respond to midi vel from any sequencer/keyboard, to me that’s a big one.

    Turn AMT knob to hear velocity effect on AMP section

    Thanks 🙏
    I think this should definately be a global setting and it should be set to “on” by default. As it is you have to change every single sound in a kit to respond to midi vel?. Not only that, but you have to do it all over every time you load a new preset. It’s great to have this per-piece level of control but imo it’s far more important to get the app to respond globally first, then details after.

    Definitely - best to email the dev, they don’t check here much

  • edited November 2022

    @Gavinski said:

    @tahiche said:

    @szczyp said:

    @tahiche said:
    2 things if I may:

    • Slap to Vlat doesn’t respond to midi velocity, right?.
      I did read this from the devs:
      > 5. We have an update as well that is velocity sensitive depending on where you hit the pad. Lower on the pad is software and hither on the pad is louder. Touch sensitivity as far as a "hit" on the iPad is very difficult and couldn't pull this off.
      But that’s talking about the actual pads. The app doesn’t seem to respond to midi vel from any sequencer/keyboard, to me that’s a big one.

    Turn AMT knob to hear velocity effect on AMP section

    Thanks 🙏
    I think this should definately be a global setting and it should be set to “on” by default. As it is you have to change every single sound in a kit to respond to midi vel?. Not only that, but you have to do it all over every time you load a new preset. It’s great to have this per-piece level of control but imo it’s far more important to get the app to respond globally first, then details after.

    Definitely - best to email the dev, they don’t check here much

    … could be added in the settings global switch for override AMT AMP vlocity…. But how then you could make variation from kit to kit by different settings?
    From my point of view, factory kits are just designed in a specyfic way (AMT setting, start/End of chops, sometimes an effect on some of the pads etc), but when you build yourself kits and save them with samples, AMT AMP is alerady responding to velocity and all other effects are empty. Sometimes we dont want velocity response, sometimes (more often) we need this.

    Anyway, still I didnt find in version 1.0.0 how to add massive number of samples in one move, and be able to choose from them freealy during building kits. As far as I see now, I need to choose from disk each kit (36 samples) separatelly first or each sample one by one…from disk. Which is also cool BECAUSE ITS MEANING more focus and carreful choose source material from thousen of samples.

    It is easy to put 1GB samples into folder and be busy by year to understand each sample, what is what and where inside folders. That is in Drambo, GR-16 and AudioLayer (and more samplers like sitala probably (hey sitala Im waiting with buying for Program Change) but when you need to know your each sample, probably its mean less is better. If you know what I mean.

    Personally im still learning my own collection, during excersizes, and I like this proccess.

    At this moment GR-16 and „Slap-this-Cat” apps are my go to to work with drum samples and Program Changes.
    If you ask why Program Change is so important, I can say …. Drambo didnt allow for any MIDI learned preset changing other than sending PC into auv3. So apps (instruments and effects) that respond to PC are important for me at this moment.
    Yes, I could use any app in LOOPYPRO or AUM and define freely Presets, but Im still on simple usage of Drambo alone on IPadPro4-th and LoopyPro on iphone7s. Thank you for reading this long story :)

  • @szczyp From my point of view, factory kits are just designed in a specyfic way (AMT setting, start/End of chops, sometimes an effect on some of the pads etc), but when you build yourself kits and save them with samples, AMT AMP is alerady responding to velocity and all other effects are empty. Sometimes we dont want velocity response, sometimes (more often) we need this.

    Either way velocity response should be on by default, which not for (I believe all) factory kits, as it’s the common use case. If you don’t care about velocity just leave whatever sequencer you’re using alone and you won’t get velocity changes.

  • edited November 2022

    @tahiche said:

    @szczyp From my point of view, factory kits are just designed in a specyfic way (AMT setting, start/End of chops, sometimes an effect on some of the pads etc), but when you build yourself kits and save them with samples, AMT AMP is alerady responding to velocity and all other effects are empty. Sometimes we dont want velocity response, sometimes (more often) we need this.

    Either way velocity response should be on by default, which not for (I believe all) factory kits, as it’s the common use case. If you don’t care about velocity just leave whatever sequencer you’re using alone and you won’t get velocity changes.

    Right! And clicks at the End of choops could be faded out…. But it is as we see… IMO great. Really Im glad how it is. Maybe will be improoved, or not?
    If you would like to assign snares into second out, Hihats to third out…. There will be need for save Presets.
    I like to know in detail each kit preset, knowing how it response under fingers, fine tuning. Starting point is Ok. Sure could be and even should be velocity sensitive from begining, but for me it is not as big problem to for example asking for refund. No, I keep this drums, and will expand by own custom kits.

    I hope there is update plan for batch import more samples, or easy backup presets etc.
    Time stretching would be super good , like koala sampler, but nothing is perfect in this world, and I dont know what is meaning of „perfect”. 😉 Most what I would like to see in updates is start End knobs, for define region from sample. @GospelMusicians

  • Im having troubles withsome kits without sound and the sound not switching when i select other sample

  • so far during testing Auv3 crashes in Garageband during mixdown…have seen this phenomenon before with other plugins years ago. so for now will have to hold off using it.

  • Hi, is it possible to switch all pads to one shot at once?

  • @Bele said:
    Hi, is it possible to switch all pads to one shot at once?

    Please send them an email, I did it as well
    The more will ask for it, the bigger the chance it’ll happen

  • @bargale said:

    @Bele said:
    Hi, is it possible to switch all pads to one shot at once?

    Please send them an email, I did it as well
    The more will ask for it, the bigger the chance it’ll happen

    if you share the email here, I might do it

  • i know they ( @GospelMusicians ) have a lot of places to check , and this one is not as inportant as was during advertising day of new product which is drummachine, and ok, BUT at least they see our activity, enthusiasm, questions about how to import samples (the manual is empty about importing), hey at least one sentence would make big difference (like: we are busy now; or: we will answer later)
    come on, we supported you, we trust you, we hope you are doing well

    as customer I still believe the product will be a little improoved in the bath import section (how to import 100 snares and have them available to build custom kits?)

  • One of the worst programmed plugins I’ve bought and I have over 400. It takes ages for patches to load. GUI is like made with Win 3.11. There are very few global settings and you have to tweak every kit one by one. Etc. etc. It’s a shame because there are some great sounds in it.

  • @tuquoque said:
    One of the worst programmed plugins I’ve bought and I have over 400. It takes ages for patches to load. GUI is like made with Win 3.11. There are very few global settings and you have to tweak every kit one by one. Etc. etc. It’s a shame because there are some great sounds in it.

    Actually, I agree on this - great great sounds but overall UX is seriously lacking. Could really use someone who knows about good UX design on the team

  • It is a very personal opinion but I don’t like to use Gospel Musicians apps , It doesn’t make me creative and not fun at all. It only remind me that my Yamaha PsRx600 have far more better sound and much fun to play with it.

    The sound of organs are not very good at all for the price they should offer at least better organ sounds sampled.

    Happy if some musicians like their sounds and apps.

  • @tuquoque said:
    One of the worst programmed plugins I’ve bought and I have over 400. It takes ages for patches to load. GUI is like made with Win 3.11. There are very few global settings and you have to tweak every kit one by one. Etc. etc. It’s a shame because there are some great sounds in it.

    I love the sounds of the app a lot but yeah definitely not a great UI at all. I don’t regret buying it but would love to see some changes.

  • GUI issues aside…had high hopes for this one…but in GB it can’t offline bounce. So literally cannot be used.

    Back to fantasizing about imaschine AUv3

  • Let’s just face it.. @GospelMusicians communication with this and other groups sucks!! Poor communication on launch day, even worse today. With this dev all I think of is the “Stephen A Smith” meme….”WE DONT CARE” 😂🤣😂

  • @ninobeatz said:
    Let’s just face it.. @GospelMusicians communication with this and other groups sucks!! Poor communication on launch day, even worse today. With this dev all I think of is the “Stephen A Smith” meme….”WE DONT CARE” 😂🤣😂

    +1 I don’t care of them anymore 😂

  • @HotStrange said:

    @tuquoque said:
    One of the worst programmed plugins I’ve bought and I have over 400. It takes ages for patches to load. GUI is like made with Win 3.11. There are very few global settings and you have to tweak every kit one by one. Etc. etc. It’s a shame because there are some great sounds in it.

    I love the sounds of the app a lot but yeah definitely not a great UI at all. I don’t regret buying it but would love to see some changes.

    Reassuring that I’m not alone on this. It’s got some very weird workflow quirks. A good example is the midi files implementation. Why one midi file per preset?. You should be able to load whatever midi file from Splat to Clap you want with a set of sounds. As it is you might as well just work with loops… I can load external midi but not the other included midi loops?.

  • edited May 2023

    We've mentioned this many times and in many places that AudioBus Forum, or any other forum is not the correct place to communicate with us. There are about 20-different Blog spots, 10-15 more on Facebook Groups, etc...and it is impossible for any company to keep track of 10-20 different forums. The best place to communicate with us is through our Support on our website. Many of the issues mentioned above were never even told to us, nor do we have any clue about them.

    For the people who do take the time to write us, we have betas ready to send them via TestFlight and many users are up and going, even with new features they have requested.

    Just to be clear here are many of the requested features we've added:
    1. Drag and Drop MIDI to DAW timeline with DAWs that support Drag and Drop
    2. New Quick DAW Sync On/Off for people that have different workflows and don't want the DAW Sync
    3. MIDI Output for Standalone and DAW
    4. Easy Assignable Virtual Outputs that automatically assign Tracks based on the Pad Number
    5. Ability to preview sounds icon when the FX or Edit window is overlayed
    6. Ability to preview sounds from oscillator browser.

    All the features above were requested by people who sent us emails and we answered. So to say we don't update or listen to customers is a bit misleading; nevertheless, we apologize for any issues you have and welcome you to email our support so we can address them.

    A good example is on this post someone posted that the Settings keep disappearing in AUv3. Well we fixed this already in one of our other apps, but had no clue this was happening in Splat-to-Clat. If someone had written support and told us, we may have had a fix for this immediately.

  • i cant believe no one thought about adding a "play mode for all pads" drop down. What do the users do, press settings -> play modes -> one shot; and this 12 times for all pads?

  • @GospelMusicians I read too quickly and thought you said “For the people who do take the time to write us, we have beats ready to send…”

    I was about to start making bugs up just to get my hands on some more GM grooves 😎

  • edited December 2023

    I would like to have splat-to-clat running on my iPhone, EVEN WITH SMALL THE SAME GUI LIKE ON the IPAD but on smaller screen (to use zoom function) , are anybody also interested in such solution? I’m interesting in other people POV about asking dev for small gui-but-running-on-iPhone.

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