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Great! Serif just offered you to "save" £101 if you buy the Universal package then, which sounds like it is for you (both Windows and MacOs ..(iPad apps completely free)). That is a lot of money.
Alright I feel like the thread got derailed, and I certainly contributed. Gentle apologies to @monz0id for piling on; it feels like the world is tearing at the seams these days and I don’t know why I felt the need to challenge you.
Overall I’m pretty chuffed about the UI updates and asset integrations, but as someone who barely scratched the surface of the v1 apps, a lot of the big features are lost on me. Has anyone here made something they couldn’t have made in v1 yet?
They tout Publisher's ability to produce magazines. Is it 1998 all of a sudden?
These are all basically the same app with slight variations.
Actually as a print designer for over the past 25 years (yes, I am lucky to still be clinging onto print in a digital world) These apps are indeed similar however each serve a distinct purpose. Designer (similar to adobe illustrator) is primarily for illustration, logo design etc. It does include both a vector and raster workflow that can be combined in the same document. Photo (similar to adobe photoshop) is primarily for editing photographs - it can also be used to create illustrations but is not as efficient as Designer. Publisher (similar to Adobe InDesign) is for basically putting it all together primarily in multi page documents: books, magazines, brochures, digital magazines. etc. Photo and Designer personas are available in Publisher in order to edit content while working on projects to maintain an efficient workflow. When working on 300 page art catalogs this is very helpful. They are similar but they have very distinct uses. The adobe counterparts on desktop do have quite the advantage (well at least for me since I've used them for over 30 years) I do love affinity's offering and use it quite a bit while working on the iPad. I would perhaps migrate completely if the museum gig stopped paying for my creative cloud subscription. It's so nice to have professional graphic design tools available on the iPad and desktop in sync and without a subscription. I do like Fresco and some of Adobe's offerings on the iPad but I really wish they didn't cut so many features in photoshop and illustrator.
You assume that they’ll keep updating V2. My guess is that you buy V2 to continue getting updates after already buying V1… until… they decide to launch V3 that you have to buy if you want to continue getting updates.
Basically the same as a subscription… only longer breaks before you have to cough up $99 again for the next version.
I would’ve been cool with this had they at least emailed current registered users a discount redeem code or something.
They’re giving you 40% off
I heard about emails with discounts and I guess they are mainly for recent buyers (which I’m not). But before buying I would like to know if I get one of those mails or not. The intro price is fair, but of course I would except a discount if they give me one.
I got the teaser mail a few days ago, so I know their mails reach me. But I didn’t get anything yet, no announcement, no discount. Did you guys get one?
Gee Apple, how the hell did $89 become 899 Danish kroner. (supposed to be 660 Danish kroner).
What kind of magic currency conversion is this?
Jesus wept how long is this going to go round and round?
I know. We all know. But that is the price for everyone. Regardless of whether they’ve spent three hundred quid on the same apps, or absolutely zero.
And not only do people who’ve spent three hundred quid already get the same upgrade price, they now have to shell out another ninety quid to keep them working.
Existing customer loyalty has been valued at exactly zero.
As @skiphunt said, there’s no no way of telling how long V2 will be kept updated, so this is basically now a subscription.
No worries. But this happens every single time anyone on here queries a price increase, or notes missing features in a piece of software.
I don’t snipe at people happy to pay full price, or more for an app. Or mock them for considering missing functionality as ‘a feature’ (even when those same people quietly request them later in the thread). I’m happy for them. But I wish they wouldn’t take pot-shots at ME for having a slightly different opinion, or waking up one morning and finding out I’ve got to find nearly a hundred quid down the back of the sofa along with all the other insane price increases I’ve got to cover.
I’ve asked them directly for an upgrade discount but they’ve refused, my last purchase from them was last November for reference…
Given the current economic situation, I would hope, any developer or consumer outlet would value even more so, customer loyalty.
And they've shown the 'subscription free' claims to be a total nonsense. Switching off basic support for products overnight (there's eight of them) and not providing an upgrade path for existing customers is a subscription by any other name.
A noob question, if I change my iPad, I won’t be able to install my already purchased Affinity products on it, right? Let’s say, I purchased them a year ago, would I have to pay for it again when I upgrade to a new iPad ? Not being judgmental , just wondering if I have to go for the universal update or can still use the old version on new iPad.
No, you can find previously purchased apps in the appstore and download them again.
They aren’t listed as offered apps anymore but in your personal area (accessed via your little icloud avatar).
I’ve seen several apps go from buy to subscription and it really irritates me, if developers wish to create an app that is subscription based then that’s their choice, but when doing so shouldn’t move anyone who bought it previously under a different sale regulation, to that model, in effect that is what has happened here with Serif Labs, what you ask for and I agree with, is fairness.
you find your previously purchased apps if you got to the "today" screen of the app store and open the account menu by pressing on the icon in the top right. then you can redownload them from there.
I do agree that some kind of upgrade price would be nice, but this is still better than a monthly subscription. But I don't like apps being removed from the store.. this is why I won't spend large amounts on iOS apps.
This is how Adobe used to do it before they changed, but they did have upgrade pricing..but then the bundles were hugely more expensive (But the Adobe apps were/are better + far more advanced so can't really compare).
I think this model is basically ok though, they're just treating everyone as new users of each new edition which means the apps can be quite low priced. That's not a bad system, it's just unfortunate Apple don't yet allow easy way of upgrade pricing, I think that's why they are forced into this type of thing.
I think I will probably get iPad Publisher for roughs on the go, but will probably not be upgrading the other ipad apps, I just don't ever use them but they are nice to have as a mobile option. The iPad still feels like a toy in the sense of doing visual work on it compared to desktop.
luckily there's two tiers of "removing from the store"... I think an app is ony terminally removed when the publisher cancels their account, no? and until then you can at least-redownload it freely...
Yeah you can still download the apps for now, but you never know how long that might last in the future. I usually download to my PC with iMazing just in case with apps like this.
There is a huge discount, so basically this whole debate is more about not wanting new users to get that discount as well.
Fake news. No-one has said that.
the problem is, if an app, like this one, is activated by IAP, then I guess even our imazing backups won't help?
Pulse check: how many people use Affinity apps but don’t have paying clients?
Thanks a lot for the answer. I was only worried because the version 1 Affinity apps have disappeared from the store. Didn't know it would still be available for redownload.
Same with the desktop versions - they're re-activated online.
So theoretically everything we've bought could disappear overnight.
I think it's fair to say I won't be supporting this company again, or recommending their products.
Here's another good info that's related:
If an app no longer supports your device, or you want to buy an app that got updated and no longer supports your older OS, then you can buy the appon a newer device or on your computer and download it via the purchased-menu. The store will then provide you with the last version of the app that can still run on your device.
had to do a lot of that when I got my ipad mini 1, hehe
And you can make a backup for each app with this software: https://imazing.com/download
In case an app vanished completely, you could reinstall it via PC with this software.
i do..
It isn’t. You get to keep the software. v1 still works fine, and there is no need to upgrade.
Gotcha, so are the apps more or less for your own personal enjoyment or projects?
Yeah that can be an issue and why I don't like iAP, might be worth contacting the developer about it, but it should still activate to your account unless Serif somehow prevent this.