Drambo ruined my GAS

solncekreeze

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:
Hello everyone. I bought Drambo yesterday. I asked a similar question a couple of days ago about Loopy pro and now I have the same question about Drambo. I'm trying to record from the built-in AnomoogZ keyboard, but nothing is being recorded. What am I doing wrong?

See:

https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=auv3_midi_recording_workarounds&s[]=drambo

There might be other wiki articles that cover it, too.

Thanks for the tip. I looked. I did everything as it is written and shown in the video. With AnimoogZ does not record normally. The signal is coming, but it breaks immediately. That is, it records an incomprehensible sequence of notes. Of course it's still kind of weird. In this regard, everything is implemented much more comfortably in the same Aum. It would be great to do all this without any additional applications and actions.

Maybe it was clear in the other discussion, MIDI Tape Recorder is pretty much the only thing other than Xequence 2 that can accurately record and playback Animoog Z’s MIDI.

Yes, let's not repeat ourselves. Then it's easier to prescribe through LoopyPro🙂Practice playing more smoothly. Xsequence is a separate application, which is also not very convenient. Okay, thanks a lot. And so- Drambo is cool. But applications are not friends with Animoog. The level is certainly high.

They are friendly for recording the audio. Most MIDI sequencers on iOS weren’t designed for MPE.

I absolutely agree. I hope everything will change in the future. MPE is great.

solncekreeze

@cokomairena said:

@solncekreeze said:

@cokomairena said:

@solncekreeze said:
Hello everyone. I bought Drambo yesterday. I asked a similar question a couple of days ago about Loopy pro and now I have the same question about Drambo. I'm trying to record from the built-in AnimoogZ keyboard, but nothing is being recorded. What am I doing wrong?

It's.... complicated, you should be able to record it with midi recorder but I haven't had that much luck... better to just record the audio to loopy

So I come to this opinion😊Train a lot to record audio👍

you can use the legendary comping technique: https://www.guitarworld.com/news/pink-floyds-david-gilmour-talks-comfortably-numb-solo-covers-tina-s-richie-faulkner-and-thomas-leeb

“I banged out five or six solos,” Gilmour says. “From there I just followed my usual procedure, which is to listen back to each solo and make a chart, noting which bits are good. Then, by following the chart, I create one great composite solo by whipping one fader up, then another fader, jumping from phrase to phrase until everything flows together. That’s the way we did it on ‘Comfortably Numb.’”

But for some purists in this forum that would be cheating LOL

That's what Loopy pro is good for. And therefore there is a desire to follow the development.

espiegel123

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:
Hello everyone. I bought Drambo yesterday. I asked a similar question a couple of days ago about Loopy pro and now I have the same question about Drambo. I'm trying to record from the built-in AnomoogZ keyboard, but nothing is being recorded. What am I doing wrong?

See:

https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=auv3_midi_recording_workarounds&s[]=drambo

There might be other wiki articles that cover it, too.

Thanks for the tip. I looked. I did everything as it is written and shown in the video. With AnimoogZ does not record normally. The signal is coming, but it breaks immediately. That is, it records an incomprehensible sequence of notes. Of course it's still kind of weird. In this regard, everything is implemented much more comfortably in the same Aum. It would be great to do all this without any additional applications and actions.

Maybe it was clear in the other discussion, MIDI Tape Recorder is pretty much the only thing other than Xequence 2 that can accurately record and playback Animoog Z’s MIDI.

Yes, let's not repeat ourselves. Then it's easier to prescribe through LoopyPro🙂Practice playing more smoothly. Xsequence is a separate application, which is also not very convenient. Okay, thanks a lot. And so- Drambo is cool. But applications are not friends with Animoog. The level is certainly high.

They are friendly for recording the audio. Most MIDI sequencers on iOS weren’t designed for MPE.

I absolutely agree. I hope everything will change in the future. MPE is great.

For the time being, you can record in MTR and if you need to edit, export the midi to xequence for editing. And, in my opinion, practicing so that you don’t have to do a lot of editing has a lot of benefit. With MPE, comping together a final take from several imperfect takes may be easier than editing.

mtenk

@cokomairena said:

@solncekreeze said:

@cokomairena said:

@solncekreeze said:
Hello everyone. I bought Drambo yesterday. I asked a similar question a couple of days ago about Loopy pro and now I have the same question about Drambo. I'm trying to record from the built-in AnimoogZ keyboard, but nothing is being recorded. What am I doing wrong?

It's.... complicated, you should be able to record it with midi recorder but I haven't had that much luck... better to just record the audio to loopy

So I come to this opinion😊Train a lot to record audio👍

you can use the legendary comping technique: https://www.guitarworld.com/news/pink-floyds-david-gilmour-talks-comfortably-numb-solo-covers-tina-s-richie-faulkner-and-thomas-leeb

“I banged out five or six solos,” Gilmour says. “From there I just followed my usual procedure, which is to listen back to each solo and make a chart, noting which bits are good. Then, by following the chart, I create one great composite solo by whipping one fader up, then another fader, jumping from phrase to phrase until everything flows together. That’s the way we did it on ‘Comfortably Numb.’”

But for some purists in this forum that would be cheating LOL

Those “purists” have clearly never stepped foot in a professional recording studio. Lol

solncekreeze

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:

@espiegel123 said:

@solncekreeze said:
Hello everyone. I bought Drambo yesterday. I asked a similar question a couple of days ago about Loopy pro and now I have the same question about Drambo. I'm trying to record from the built-in AnomoogZ keyboard, but nothing is being recorded. What am I doing wrong?

See:

https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=auv3_midi_recording_workarounds&s[]=drambo

There might be other wiki articles that cover it, too.

Thanks for the tip. I looked. I did everything as it is written and shown in the video. With AnimoogZ does not record normally. The signal is coming, but it breaks immediately. That is, it records an incomprehensible sequence of notes. Of course it's still kind of weird. In this regard, everything is implemented much more comfortably in the same Aum. It would be great to do all this without any additional applications and actions.

Maybe it was clear in the other discussion, MIDI Tape Recorder is pretty much the only thing other than Xequence 2 that can accurately record and playback Animoog Z’s MIDI.

Yes, let's not repeat ourselves. Then it's easier to prescribe through LoopyPro🙂Practice playing more smoothly. Xsequence is a separate application, which is also not very convenient. Okay, thanks a lot. And so- Drambo is cool. But applications are not friends with Animoog. The level is certainly high.

They are friendly for recording the audio. Most MIDI sequencers on iOS weren’t designed for MPE.

I absolutely agree. I hope everything will change in the future. MPE is great.

For the time being, you can record in MTR and if you need to edit, export the midi to xequence for editing. And, in my opinion, practicing so that you don’t have to do a lot of editing has a lot of benefit. With MPE, comping together a final take from several imperfect takes may be easier than editing.

I listen to your opinion. I think it's much more useful for developing skills. This makes it possible to freely record, and then choose the best. Yes, and it's useful for memory-then remember how you played it at all😁

chaocrator

not the case for me.
i mostly use Drambo for arrangement – either with synth plugins or with physical gear.
also, i prefer performing live with gear, and found that iPad/Drambo used as MIDI only sequencer integrates very well in hardware setup.

klangsulfat

@giku_beepstreet said:

@klangsulfat said:
And not to forget a bright skin . Every time I use Drambo, I get a slightly depressed feeling. Somehow I don't like dark GUIs, especially since I also find them less readable. This is one of the reasons I no longer use Thumbjam. First world problem, I know.

Thinking on this, but I definitely don't want it to be a torch. btw. Is Ableton Live bright enough?

For my personal taste, yes. The Ableton theme "Mid Light" (= Default theme of Live 11) or (better) "Light" would be great. As option, of course.

BroCoast

Drambo & vintage synths. 😎

ghost_forests

@mtenk said:

But for some purists in this forum that would be cheating LOL

Those “purists” have clearly never stepped foot in a professional recording studio. Lol

Same people who think digitally editing photos is cheating but who never wonder where the names for all the editing tools in Photoshop originate from…

jaijai

@supadom said:
Yes. I get that a lot.

I’ve had all sorts of hardware in the past and always gravitate towards an easier and more flexible solution.

Drambo is so well thought out. I’m only now realising how great balance @giku_beepstreet has struck here.

I never saw myself as a ‘modular’ guy but then find myself trying all sorts of shit here. It is very liberating and sounds good and musical, in contrast to fully modular systems that need a lot of brain investment to get to places.

As for hardware, it’s just too limiting, in terms of preset/session saving, portability, physical size and sound to £££ ratio.

We are truly blessed.

This! Drambo also opened up my interest in modular. I also bought the Syntorial course. I could experiment with Drambo along the side, while learning stuff about synthesis.
Drambo glued the whole ios-ecosystem together for me. Whenever I read about a new gear, my mind thinks in Drambo and how I can recreate it.

You are right, we are truly blessed.
(I am waiting on Amazon to deliver my new ipad )

jaijai

@giku_beepstreet said:
Thank you guys, Drambo ruined my GAS as well .

Working on it, the todo list is huge.

I have this weird feeling that I owe you a lot more money
I did not buy so much gear, because of Drambo.
Thank you for sharing this 'Dream' with us.

Kashi

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Kashi

@klangsulfat said:

@RajahP said:
Still wishing for an update soon. Midi import, AuMidiFx recording...

+1 for MIDI import. At least single track clips.

And not to forget a bright skin . Every time I use Drambo, I get a slightly depressed feeling. Somehow I don't like dark GUIs, especially since I also find them less readable. This is one of the reasons I no longer use Thumbjam. First world problem, I know.

I've spent the last 30 mins investigating Thumbjam, because I want to know if I can use the TJ keyboard to play other AUv3 instruments in AUM (anyone know?!),....and along the way I have seen that you can import your own photo as a backdrop. Seems a bit gimmicky to me, but maybe it would be useful to you?

jaijai

@Eschatone said:

@jaijai said:
I love my music gear and am always interested in new gear.
However Drambo ruined my GAS, every time I feel the urge for new stuff I open Drambo and
all the GAS is gone.

That’s the best part about it. Was briefly tempted by the new OP1, new Elektron boxes, and 1010music gear, but it always quickly dissipates when I reflect on the question “What can it do that Drambo can’t do quicker and better?”

At this point, the only Groovebox I’d spend 1k or more on is if they made a hardware version of Drambo.

I was also temped on an octatrack. I got a cheap midi controller with crossfader and could recreate some workflows I saw on octatrack tutorials. Gone was all the GAS.
I was also one of those people who said, that hands-on knop dialing/pushing and muscle memory beats anything.
But with the Ipad I can see the whole sequence, pinch and zoom, drag to strectch notes etc.
Now with my gear I hate scrolling through the patterns, searching for that one note which I want to stretch.

Indeed I would have no problem buying a drambo groovebox.
Just give me something build like the 1010music blackbox with a crossfader and Drambo inside

klangsulfat

@Kashi said:
I've spent the last 30 mins investigating Thumbjam, because I want to know if I can use the TJ keyboard to play other AUv3 instruments in AUM (anyone know?!),....and along the way I have seen that you can import your own photo as a backdrop. Seems a bit gimmicky to me, but maybe it would be useful to you?

Thanks for the hint 👍. I didn't know that.

supadom

@jaijai said:

@Eschatone said:

@jaijai said:
I love my music gear and am always interested in new gear.
However Drambo ruined my GAS, every time I feel the urge for new stuff I open Drambo and
all the GAS is gone.

That’s the best part about it. Was briefly tempted by the new OP1, new Elektron boxes, and 1010music gear, but it always quickly dissipates when I reflect on the question “What can it do that Drambo can’t do quicker and better?”

At this point, the only Groovebox I’d spend 1k or more on is if they made a hardware version of Drambo.

I was also temped on an octatrack. I got a cheap midi controller with crossfader and could recreate some workflows I saw on octatrack tutorials. Gone was all the GAS.
I was also one of those people who said, that hands-on knop dialing/pushing and muscle memory beats anything.
But with the Ipad I can see the whole sequence, pinch and zoom, drag to strectch notes etc.
Now with my gear I hate scrolling through the patterns, searching for that one note which I want to stretch.

Indeed I would have no problem buying a drambo groovebox.
Just give me something build like the 1010music blackbox with a crossfader and Drambo inside

It’s true that having a sealed box can channel and focus but it really depends on how practical it is in an individual case. I like the idea of hardware but I invariably find myself needing to bend my ways to the ways of the machine. Also the bottleneck of a small screen and menu diving on some boxes or separate software editors in others, inability to save presets or to save the whole project for the whole hardware modular system is a workflow killer to me. I just can’t remember all those settings!! Neither do I want to remember them tbh.

The great thing about Drambo is that at this point I can drive it completely blind, using only controllers. Then if I need to, I have the option of opening the screen and make whatever changes necessary on a big screen, there and then. If this isn’t the best of both worlds I don’t know what is.

Of course we’re all here making music in our own ways with our own priorities but for me…this is it.

Kashi

@klangsulfat said:

@Kashi said:
I've spent the last 30 mins investigating Thumbjam, because I want to know if I can use the TJ keyboard to play other AUv3 instruments in AUM (anyone know?!),....and along the way I have seen that you can import your own photo as a backdrop. Seems a bit gimmicky to me, but maybe it would be useful to you?

Thanks for the hint 👍. I didn't know that.

Sure thing

skrat

@klangsulfat said:

@RajahP said:
Still wishing for an update soon. Midi import, AuMidiFx recording...

+1 for MIDI import. At least single track clips.

And not to forget a bright skin . Every time I use Drambo, I get a slightly depressed feeling. Somehow I don't like dark GUIs, especially since I also find them less readable. This is one of the reasons I no longer use Thumbjam. First world problem, I know.

You can actually use Invert Accessibility feature in iOS to get “light” skin. Not perfect, but does the job e.g. on direct sunlight.
Truth is, dark GUIs are good for dark ambient lightning. In a daylight, there’s a lot of reflection and very low contrast. This is the problem that automatic day/night switching of dark/light mode solves. But this is probably the most misunderstood software feature, 99,99% people think these modes are just to make a cool match with your light/dark soul 😂

senhorlampada

@Kashi said:

@klangsulfat said:

@Kashi said:
I've spent the last 30 mins investigating Thumbjam, because I want to know if I can use the TJ keyboard to play other AUv3 instruments in AUM (anyone know?!),....and along the way I have seen that you can import your own photo as a backdrop. Seems a bit gimmicky to me, but maybe it would be useful to you?

Thanks for the hint 👍. I didn't know that.

Sure thing

Not trying to derail... but iElectribe and Koala has that feature too.
And that I recall from memory, Sunvox, GR-16 and PureAcid has options to set custom colors

adam_murphy

@skrat said:

@klangsulfat said:

@RajahP said:
Still wishing for an update soon. Midi import, AuMidiFx recording...

+1 for MIDI import. At least single track clips.

And not to forget a bright skin . Every time I use Drambo, I get a slightly depressed feeling. Somehow I don't like dark GUIs, especially since I also find them less readable. This is one of the reasons I no longer use Thumbjam. First world problem, I know.

You can actually use Invert Accessibility feature in iOS to get “light” skin. Not perfect, but does the job e.g. on direct sunlight.
But this is probably the most misunderstood software feature, 99,99% people think these modes are just to make a cool match with your light/dark soul 😂

oops. my bad. 😂 🧙 🔮

REkzkaRZ

Had to Google acronyms GAS and MPE. As a musician / hobbyist, I can't speak all the acronyms. (I can use IT jargon & some pro AV jargon, but I'm generally an anti-jargon dude bc it makes insider/outsider culture.)

Funny part is I bought midi controller (Novation Launch Control XL) specifically for Drambo (and AUM) on iPad & its made mixing / knob tweaking a lot of fun.
Really wish there was a template for Launch Control XL that allowed for automatic scene mapping & enabled specific side buttons (like it does with Ableton to move knob control from app to instrument/effects).

Also love Turnado on Master & assign a whole scene on Launch Control XL just for it.

Is there a thread describing people's preferred midi controller surfaces for Drambo? I'd be interested to see that.

HotStrange

@REkzkaRZ said:
Had to Google acronyms GAS and MPE. As a musician / hobbyist, I can't speak all the acronyms. (I can use IT jargon & some pro AV jargon, but I'm generally an anti-jargon dude bc it makes insider/outsider culture.)

Funny part is I bought midi controller (Novation Launch Control XL) specifically for Drambo (and AUM) on iPad & its made mixing / knob tweaking a lot of fun.
Really wish there was a template for Launch Control XL that allowed for automatic scene mapping & enabled specific side buttons (like it does with Ableton to move knob control from app to instrument/effects).

Also love Turnado on Master & assign a whole scene on Launch Control XL just for it.

Is there a thread describing people's preferred midi controller surfaces for Drambo? I'd be interested to see that.

I dont think so. Might be worth starting one, probably some valuable information to be had.

dendy

Finally clicked with Drambo. Don’t kniw why it took so long time bjt better late than never.

I have to say - i fell in love VERY hard. Would not say it killed my GAS (thinking about one or two midi cotnrollers lol), but i have to say - it’s amazing musical tool.

I still refuse to admit that option, but starting even play with idea that Drambo + HW midi controllers will make from large part my Elektron boxes obsolete. 😱

@giku_beepstreet you have my endless respect for what you made here. You oficially joined (together with Matt Borstel my personal absolute “top two iOS developers of all time” list :-)

mistercharlie

@dendy said:

I still refuse to admit that option, but starting even play with idea that Drambo + HW midi controllers will make from large part my Elektron boxes obsolete. 😱

Whenever I think about taking my Digitakt off the shelf, I remember how much easier it is to use Drambo!

auxmux

I haven't touched my Elektron boxes in two years, OG A4 and Rytm; basically since Drambo came out.

It changed everything. So much easier and faster than any other workflow I have ever used.

mistercharlie

If Drambo was ever discontinued, I would have to buy a few iPads, load it on there, and never update them again.

drez

@dendy I still love the physical nature of the Elektrons. I don't think I could ever "give it up". BUT, have you seen this:

https://get.modernmidi.io/

Looks like a pretty sick controller to pair up with drambo?

dendy

@drez said:
@dendy I still love the physical nature of the Elektrons. I don't think I could ever "give it up".

well, yeah.. probably will keep them no matter what happens, my relationship with them is just too strong

BUT, have you seen this:

https://get.modernmidi.io/

Looks like a pretty sick controller to pair up with drambo?

i am thinking more in direction of Novation Control XL - i like that it is more clearly aligned with 8 tracks concept - one fader, 3 knobs and 2 buttons per track - perfect for my style of live jamming .. this is also where i see Drambo in my setup, for live jamming / performance - for full track production is still for me winner NS because of sequencer.

mistercharlie

That LaunchControl XL looks almost perfect, but it doesn’t have play and record buttons, which are essential for me.

The OP-1 F is a fantastic Drambo controller, but I can’t justify keeping it just for that, so I’m selling it, and sticking with the nanokotrol 2

Luxthor

@dendy said:
Finally clicked with Drambo. Don’t kniw why it took so long time bjt better late than never.

I have to say - i fell in love VERY hard. Would not say it killed my GAS (thinking about one or two midi cotnrollers lol), but i have to say - it’s amazing musical tool.

I still refuse to admit that option, but starting even play with idea that Drambo + HW midi controllers will make from large part my Elektron boxes obsolete. 😱

@giku_beepstreet you have my endless respect for what you made here. You oficially joined (together with Matt Borstel my personal absolute “top two iOS developers of all time” list :-)

I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.