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Drambo ruined my GAS

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  • @dendy said:
    Finally clicked with Drambo. Don’t kniw why it took so long time bjt better late than never.

    I have to say - i fell in love VERY hard. Would not say it killed my GAS (thinking about one or two midi cotnrollers lol), but i have to say - it’s amazing musical tool.

    I still refuse to admit that option, but starting even play with idea that Drambo + HW midi controllers will make from large part my Elektron boxes obsolete. 😱

    @giku_beepstreet you have my endless respect for what you made here. You oficially joined (together with Matt Borstel ;) my personal absolute “top two iOS developers of all time” list :-)

    that is a great feelling! I had it by parts, first using drambo just as an auv3 sequencer and now I can do almost anything with it, process midi, use it as a multi fx unit, create weird synths, randomize anything etc...

  • edited September 2023

    Damn straight, I'm very grateful for this app and for everyone who’s dropped knowledge on it. @mistercharlie curious how you’re using the Nanokontrol 2 with it? @drez looks cool, I find endless encoders not so great when playing live, but snapshots might lessen that. Maybe Behringer will do a remake of their classic vaporware hardware BCR32. In the meantime, these also look cool and inexpensive https://intech.studio/shop anyone tried with iOS?

  • I have to control 3 Drambo ipads.

    Needed a Mio and cck to gain a cross ipad button ( the progress square ) but I guess I also gain midi.

    Were going to have a synth ipad with a few synths. Usb to another ipad and gain audio loops, which can re-route to any of 16 track ready effects but will just do this with the synths on that ipad.

    Not that bothered about drum midi. Although I can make any midi setup.

    Its just more hassle moving away from screen to a controller ( if programming )

  • @Model10000 said:
    @mistercharlie curious how you’re using the Nanokontrol 2 with it?

    Very simply. Transport controls, 8 buttons to select tracks, 8 to mute tracks, a metronome button, and then several buttons to control Koala, which is hosted in Drambo in my default template.

    In Koala I have buttons for:

    • Toggle keyboard mode
    • +/- and x2 for sequencer bar length.
    • Undo
    • Toggle hold mode on the FX page.

    Then I map various sliders to Koala FX.

    I’m also experimenting with using the faders for track volume, but I don’t really need that very often.

  • @mistercharlie said:

    @Model10000 said:
    @mistercharlie curious how you’re using the Nanokontrol 2 with it?

    Very simply. Transport controls, 8 buttons to select tracks, 8 to mute tracks, a metronome button, and then several buttons to control Koala, which is hosted in Drambo in my default template.

    In Koala I have buttons for:

    • Toggle keyboard mode
    • +/- and x2 for sequencer bar length.
    • Undo
    • Toggle hold mode on the FX page.

    Then I map various sliders to Koala FX.

    I’m also experimenting with using the faders for track volume, but I don’t really need that very often.

    I’m about to buy the Nano Studio bundle (Kontrol and Keys) just for that.

  • @dendy said:
    Finally clicked with Drambo. Don’t kniw why it took so long time bjt better late than never.

    I have to say - i fell in love VERY hard. Would not say it killed my GAS (thinking about one or two midi cotnrollers lol), but i have to say - it’s amazing musical tool.

    I still refuse to admit that option, but starting even play with idea that Drambo + HW midi controllers will make from large part my Elektron boxes obsolete. 😱

    @giku_beepstreet you have my endless respect for what you made here. You oficially joined (together with Matt Borstel ;) my personal absolute “top two iOS developers of all time” list :-)

    Easily up there with my all time favorites. I’ve had Drambo almost since release and used it occasionally. But it wasn’t until the last 6 months that it really clicked with me as well and now I’m obsessed with it lol

  • Would love to hear more about what everyone did to make drambo click for them.

  • @cvwonder said:
    Would love to hear more about what everyone did to make drambo click for them.

    What started it for me (and it was the same with MiRack) was using it as an effect. So if I wanted a delay, reverb, etc, I would load Drambo and make one, just for the fun of it. Once I realized just how powerful that was, I started loading an AU instrument/Flexi sampler before the effect then that blew my mind. Then I started sequencing. And from there, it was over. I was hooked.

  • Yep... Gotta try it in small steps.
    I'm not consistent in my music meddling. Too busy lately. :lol:

    But what I recommend is start with hosting AU or using flexi / the instrument patches already in app / the wonderful ones from the members here (Love the Child of the Corn Dog ones) and play with the sequencer.

    Then start patching some effects. From there, dive into synthesis stuff.

    Inspiration (for a keep it simple and awesomely productive) - Lulu Perkins' channel

  • Thanks for explaining. Sounds fun 👍

  • @Stuntman_mike said:
    Drambo is Gas-X 😂

    Drambo is Beano

  • @Model10000 said:
    Damn straight, I'm very grateful for this app and for everyone who’s dropped knowledge on it. @mistercharlie curious how you’re using the Nanokontrol 2 with it? @drez looks cool, I find endless encoders not so great when playing live, but snapshots might lessen that. Maybe Behringer will do a remake of their classic vaporware hardware BCR32. In the meantime, these also look cool and inexpensive https://intech.studio/shop anyone tried with iOS?

    Those look awesome!

  • @cvwonder said:
    Would love to hear more about what everyone did to make drambo click for them.

    At the start I was using it more as a Swiss army knife for sequencing & fx. Then I started using it as my main host and found the deeper stuff easier to digest.

    My advice is save all your stuff. Every time you do something interesting, save it for a template.

    It helps a lot to properly explore the clip section too. I tend to keep the pattern length short and use a lot of rows because it’s easier on my eyes to have 16 step patterns.

  • @cvwonder

    I read the part on the manual where they explain how the routing work (left to right) and how to add modules (slightly moving other modules to get the + sign)

    Then started using AUv3 inside it, so I guess using in standalone was another step because at the beginning I only used it as a plugin.

  • @cvwonder said:
    Would love to hear more about what everyone did to make drambo click for them.

    I used it almost purely as a drum sequencer, then added melodic sequencing of AUv3s.

    Now I still do that, but I also have a fancy Koala processing rack, plus Loopy Pro on the final track for capturing audio loops.

    l use only a small set of Drambo’s capabilities, but the ones I do use, I use deeply.

  • @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

  • @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

    I can't blame you, I wish to completely redefine the groovebox part of the Drambo. Oh, well! 😇

  • @mistercharlie said:
    That LaunchControl XL looks almost perfect, but it doesn’t have play and record buttons, which are essential for me.

    I often assign the 4 side buttons (Device, Mute, Solo, Arm) to Drambo's transport controls, they send MIDI note or CC as well as the 16 pads.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

    I can't blame you, I wish to completely redefine the groovebox part of the Drambo. Oh, well! 😇

    I just want a timeline with audio tracks 😂

  • @cokomairena said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

    I can't blame you, I wish to completely redefine the groovebox part of the Drambo. Oh, well! 😇

    I just want a timeline with audio tracks 😂

    Nah, not needed. Timeline is fine in a DAW, not needed at all for a groovebox. Logic and Drambo is a perfect fit if that's needed, like Maschine and Live/Bitwig.

  • @cvwonder said:
    Would love to hear more about what everyone did to make drambo click for them.

    start small, use it to host AUv3s and you have a wonderful onboard sequencer for the AUv3s. use some of those features and get comfortable with them. then start mapping some of the AUv3s' features (filter control for example), then add a Drambo modulator to the mapped control knob (LFO is a good place to start, then move onto envelopes, graphic modulator etc). Do some paramater locks (sharp cut-off tweak on a certain step of sequence), then add some conditional triggers to that p-lock (for example, drag a cycle condition before the red p-lock trigger and set it to occur every second time it loops through the sequence). All these relatively small things are manageable if you repeat the processes a few times, and don't think too much about bigger things like creating your own modular synth....that will come later. it's a lot of fun once you catch the bug :)

  • edited September 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

    I can't blame you, I wish to completely redefine the groovebox part of the Drambo. Oh, well! 😇

    @cokomairena
    I just want a timeline with audio tracks 😂

    Well.. classic linear sequencer would make me completely leave NS in past :-)

    Also not gonna happen, i guess :-) But that’s ok, NS for full track production, D for live jam

  • @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

    I can't blame you, I wish to completely redefine the groovebox part of the Drambo. Oh, well! 😇

    @cokomairena
    I just want a timeline with audio tracks 😂

    Well.. classic linear sequencer would make me completely leave NS in past :-)

    Also not gonna happen, i guess :-) But that’s ok, NS for full track production, D for live jam

    The only thing that bothers me is the 256-step limitation per clip. And a small reorganization of everything about groovebox! 😂

  • edited September 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:

    I'm glad to hear that. You were touched by Drambo and felt liberated. ;) I hope you're no longer wishing for wires in Drambo.

    more than anything else ! Just accepted it never gonna happen.

    I can't blame you, I wish to completely redefine the groovebox part of the Drambo. Oh, well! 😇

    @cokomairena
    I just want a timeline with audio tracks 😂

    Well.. classic linear sequencer would make me completely leave NS in past :-)

    Also not gonna happen, i guess :-) But that’s ok, NS for full track production, D for live jam

    The only thing that bothers me is the 256-step limitation per clip. And a small reorganization of everything about groovebox! 😂

    How is 256 steps a limitation, when you have virtually unlimited scenes?

    256 in scene one, another 256 in a second scene (that’s 512 so far 😉) how many steps do you need?

    But actually, if you toggle the 3/4/5 ‘steps per beat’ function in the Scene/Pattern settings, and then go back to the Clip settings, you can trick Drambo into creating more than 256 in a single scene. Here’s a screenshot showing 425 steps.

  • 660 steps in a single clip lol

  • And IMO, aside from adding a few more features here and there, I wouldn’t change a thing about the groovebox side.

  • 256 it's already too much but it's funny how everyone has different workflows an needs.

    You also have a piano roll so steps are kinda irrelevant at that point...

  • edited September 2023

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    660 steps in a single clip lol

    I can’t find that option, 256 steps / 16 bars is the maximum for me. I need 4 steps per beat.

    Edit: Can you explain that ‘trick’ please?

  • @cokomairena said:
    256 it's already too much but it's funny how everyone has different workflows an needs.

    You also have a piano roll so steps are kinda irrelevant at that point...

    I almost always hit the ceiling when I have an idea and start to record phrases. So I need to use Helium or Atom. I also record with “MIDI Tape Rec” all the time when I improvise.

  • @mistercharlie said:

    @cvwonder said:
    Would love to hear more about what everyone did to make drambo click for them.

    I used it almost purely as a drum sequencer, then added melodic sequencing of AUv3s.

    Now I still do that, but I also have a fancy Koala processing rack, plus Loopy Pro on the final track for capturing audio loops.

    l use only a small set of Drambo’s capabilities, but the ones I do use, I use deeply.

    Could I see a screenshot of your koala/Drambo setup? I’m curious how you use them together. Koala is my go to favorite app.

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