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Nanostudio 2 removed from app store? (Solved)

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  • @tja said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    That's too much honor, thanks... I would definitely do it though if the estimated 1 year of development time to fuse Nanostudio and Xequence would be paid for in advance 😂

    Noooo 😅😅😅

    You get NS2 ...

    And for this, we need to give money to it's developer.
    And then, you need to return this money to US!

    That sounds like a deal 😜

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  • wimwim
    edited January 2023

    @SevenSystems said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    That's too much honor, thanks... I would definitely do it though if the estimated 1 year of development time to fuse Nanostudio and Xequence would be paid for in advance 😂

    or perhaps better .... add audio tracks to Xequence 3! 😉

  • @wim said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    That's too much honor, thanks... I would definitely do it though if the estimated 1 year of development time to fuse Nanostudio and Xequence would be paid for in advance 😂

    or perhaps better .... add audio tracks to Xequence 3! 😉

    I had actually thought about that -- with audio connectivity via Audiobus. Doesn't even sound half-bad an idea. But first, I need to be able to work consistently again and get rid of the BANGER.

    But to get back on topic, maybe someone should actually point Matt / Blip in the direction of Blender and its open-sourcing back in 2002... it's certainly something to consider.

  • @drez said:

    @Iskander said:
    AppStore on my iPad

    AppStore on my iPhone

    Isn't the app universal and I should be able to download to iPhone for free?

    Both devices are logged in with the same account, of course.

    Showing up in the store (iPhone with a price/iPad without) but still not in my purchased apps. What a mess.

    That isn't NS2's fault, that's an App Store problem. No you will not be charged for it even if it says the price. That happens on all apps.

    Still no change. In the meantime I contacted the AppStore support. After a long and very friendly chat with various attempts around my Apple ID I should contact the developer.

    I still have no display of the app Nanostudio 2 installed on the iPad in the 'purchased' section.
    And on my iPhone a price is displayed despite purchase.

    Can this really be influenced by a developer? I doubt it.

  • @Iskander said:

    @drez said:

    @Iskander said:
    AppStore on my iPad

    AppStore on my iPhone

    Isn't the app universal and I should be able to download to iPhone for free?

    Both devices are logged in with the same account, of course.

    Showing up in the store (iPhone with a price/iPad without) but still not in my purchased apps. What a mess.

    That isn't NS2's fault, that's an App Store problem. No you will not be charged for it even if it says the price. That happens on all apps.

    Still no change. In the meantime I contacted the AppStore support. After a long and very friendly chat with various attempts around my Apple ID I should contact the developer.

    I still have no display of the app Nanostudio 2 installed on the iPad in the 'purchased' section.
    And on my iPhone a price is displayed despite purchase.

    Can this really be influenced by a developer? I doubt it.

    Usually, if you've purchased an app and need to reinstall it for some reason but there's a price showing in the app store when you access it you can press the 'buy' button and get a pop up saying you've already purchased it so just download it... that's what I've found in the past. I guess you just need the guts to press that button and hope you don't get charged again...!

  • @Iskander said:

    @drez said:

    @Iskander said:
    AppStore on my iPad

    AppStore on my iPhone

    Isn't the app universal and I should be able to download to iPhone for free?

    Both devices are logged in with the same account, of course.

    Showing up in the store (iPhone with a price/iPad without) but still not in my purchased apps. What a mess.

    That isn't NS2's fault, that's an App Store problem. No you will not be charged for it even if it says the price. That happens on all apps.

    Still no change. In the meantime I contacted the AppStore support. After a long and very friendly chat with various attempts around my Apple ID I should contact the developer.

    I still have no display of the app Nanostudio 2 installed on the iPad in the 'purchased' section.
    And on my iPhone a price is displayed despite purchase.

    Can this really be influenced by a developer? I doubt it.

    Is it in your Hidden Purchases list? You can check in App Store → Account → Account Name → Hidden Purchases
    Alternatively: did you buy NS2 for your iPad before it was made universal? If you never installed it on your iPhone then this is expected.

    In both cases, going all the way with the purchase should result in a message saying you already own it and that you'll get it for free, as @drez said.

  • @Grandbear said:

    @Iskander said:

    @drez said:

    @Iskander said:
    AppStore on my iPad

    AppStore on my iPhone

    Isn't the app universal and I should be able to download to iPhone for free?

    Both devices are logged in with the same account, of course.

    Showing up in the store (iPhone with a price/iPad without) but still not in my purchased apps. What a mess.

    That isn't NS2's fault, that's an App Store problem. No you will not be charged for it even if it says the price. That happens on all apps.

    Still no change. In the meantime I contacted the AppStore support. After a long and very friendly chat with various attempts around my Apple ID I should contact the developer.

    I still have no display of the app Nanostudio 2 installed on the iPad in the 'purchased' section.
    And on my iPhone a price is displayed despite purchase.

    Can this really be influenced by a developer? I doubt it.

    Is it in your Hidden Purchases list? You can check in App Store → Account → Account Name → Hidden Purchases
    Alternatively: did you buy NS2 for your iPad before it was made universal? If you never installed it on your iPhone then this is expected.

    In both cases, going all the way with the purchase should result in a message saying you already own it and that you'll get it for free, as @drez said.

    Thanks @Grandbear.

    The app was not in the hidden list.

    However, it now appears again under ‚purchased‘ after I logged out once from 'Media & Purchases' on Apple ID and then logged back in.
    So all is well here again.

    I can't remember when I bought Nanostudio 2. May have been before the change to universal. Thanks for the logical hint for me.

  • @Iskander said:
    However, it now appears again under ‚purchased‘ after I logged out once from 'Media & Purchases' on Apple ID and then logged back in.

    Interesting, I'll try to remember to give this a try next time we see an app go universal, if it works it may be less anxiety-inducing than the usual workaround. I'm glad it's sorted out for you!

  • @Milkyway1980 check for iTunes version 12.6.3. That has the App Store available.
    The cool thing is. even

    If you download the newest versions of apps, you're still able to have older versions, let's say when you used a device which runs iOS 12.

    I have three iPads iOS 9, 12, and iOS 15
    and apps like elastic drums run on all three of them. So one iPad is basically a drum synth. And the newest iOS runs more CPU heavy things, although it's an iPad 2018.

  • @panthera86 said:
    @Milkyway1980 check for iTunes version 12.6.3. That has the App Store available.
    The cool thing is. even

    If you download the newest versions of apps, you're still able to have older versions, let's say when you used a device which runs iOS 12.

    I have three iPads iOS 9, 12, and iOS 15
    and apps like elastic drums run on all three of them. So one iPad is basically a drum synth. And the newest iOS runs more CPU heavy things, although it's an iPad 2018.

    Thank you. I do have ipad pro 2018, and very new to this game, so all my apps are latest ones. Also need to say, love this community, kinda flashback to good old Forums days

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  • @SevenSystems said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    That's too much honor, thanks... I would definitely do it though if the estimated 1 year of development time to fuse Nanostudio and Xequence would be paid for in advance 😂

    With all due respect. But sequencer in NS2 doesn’t need too much improvement ;) it’s one of the reasons we looove NS2.

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  • @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    Xequence is a very nice app, but in my opinion NS2 is the more advanced sequencer. Of particular note is that NS2 has time and tempo tracks and the time track has nice features for how the time changes.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    Xequence is a very nice app, but in my opinion NS2 is the more advanced sequencer. Of particular note is that NS2 has time and tempo tracks and the time track has nice features for how the time changes.

    Thank you! :)

    Not to be nitpicky, and of course I'm biased, but apart from the tempo and time signature tracks (which are of course important features!), I think Xequence's could be considered more advanced in most regards.

    Off the top of my (recently seriously handicapped) head:

    1) More interactive clip looping
    2) Ability to crop or extend clips from the beginning as well as from the end
    3) More selection options
    4) AutoGrid
    5) Lots of small convenience features and options
    6) Non-destructive swing at track level
    7) Time-Stretching

    If we also count the pianoroll editor as part of the "sequencer", then:

    8) Per-note MPE editing
    9) "Ghost" notes / controllers
    10) Time-Stretching
    11) "Folding" (only show notes that are in scale)
    12) Custom scales

    @dendy correct me if I'm wrong on any of those!

    I will admit that the automation / controller editing in NS2 is more advanced though, if you prefer a more abstract representation and editing interface.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    Xequence is a very nice app, but in my opinion NS2 is the more advanced sequencer. Of particular note is that NS2 has time and tempo tracks and the time track has nice features for how the time changes.

    Thank you! :)

    Not to be nitpicky, and of course I'm biased, but apart from the tempo and time signature tracks (which are of course important features!), I think Xequence's could be considered more advanced in most regards.

    Off the top of my (recently seriously handicapped) head:

    1) More interactive clip looping
    2) Ability to crop or extend clips from the beginning as well as from the end
    3) More selection options
    4) AutoGrid
    5) Lots of small convenience features and options
    6) Non-destructive swing at track level
    7) Time-Stretching

    If we also count the pianoroll editor as part of the "sequencer", then:

    8) Per-note MPE editing
    9) "Ghost" notes / controllers
    10) Time-Stretching
    11) "Folding" (only show notes that are in scale)
    12) Custom scales

    @dendy correct me if I'm wrong on any of those!

    I will admit that the automation / controller editing in NS2 is more advanced though, if you prefer a more abstract representation and editing interface.

    You make some good points. Those are great features, particularly MPE recordings. Don’t get me wrong Xequence has some great features.

    But to me tempo and time tracks are key and generally missing in iOS.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @tja said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Can we buy nanostudio code and make it opensource? If the developer is not willing to add new features maybe he could sell the code and the community could buy it in some sort of crowdfunding?

    I think, @SevenSystems should continue this - he was once part of the beta team and his Xequence is an advanced version of the NS2 sequencer.... 🤗

    Xequence is a very nice app, but in my opinion NS2 is the more advanced sequencer. Of particular note is that NS2 has time and tempo tracks and the time track has nice features for how the time changes.

    Thank you! :)

    Not to be nitpicky, and of course I'm biased, but apart from the tempo and time signature tracks (which are of course important features!), I think Xequence's could be considered more advanced in most regards.

    Off the top of my (recently seriously handicapped) head:

    1) More interactive clip looping
    2) Ability to crop or extend clips from the beginning as well as from the end
    3) More selection options
    4) AutoGrid
    5) Lots of small convenience features and options
    6) Non-destructive swing at track level
    7) Time-Stretching

    If we also count the pianoroll editor as part of the "sequencer", then:

    8) Per-note MPE editing
    9) "Ghost" notes / controllers
    10) Time-Stretching
    11) "Folding" (only show notes that are in scale)
    12) Custom scales

    @dendy correct me if I'm wrong on any of those!

    I will admit that the automation / controller editing in NS2 is more advanced though, if you prefer a more abstract representation and editing interface.

    You make some good points. Those are great features, particularly MPE recordings. Don’t get me wrong Xequence has some great features.

    I know, thanks, I didn't take your post negatively in any way. You're actually mostly so objective on the forum it's almost boring 😄

    But to me tempo and time tracks are key and generally missing in iOS.

    I know. It's still on the roadmap for Xequence, fighting with the 39 other feature requests on it 🤔

  • I hope NS2 will go open source and NS3 would have a NS2 styled sequencer but enriched with functions like probability.

    Xequence looks very advanced. But again we love NS2 for its approachability and quickness of creation.
    Cheers

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  • @tja said:

    @israelite said:
    I hope NS2 will go open source and NS3 would have a NS2 styled sequencer but enriched with functions like probability.

    Xequence looks very advanced. But again we love NS2 for its approachability and quickness of creation.
    Cheers

    Did you ever try Xequence?

    It works exactly the same as nanostudio 2.

    But it is enhanced in many aspects (beside tempo tracks) and usability and speed in creating something.

    Sure I have tried it and it’s not like NS2. It's complexity restricts creativity. Just my opinion ;)

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  • wimwim
    edited January 2023

    @tja said:

    @israelite said:

    @tja said:

    @israelite said:
    I hope NS2 will go open source and NS3 would have a NS2 styled sequencer but enriched with functions like probability.

    Xequence looks very advanced. But again we love NS2 for its approachability and quickness of creation.
    Cheers

    Did you ever try Xequence?

    It works exactly the same as nanostudio 2.

    But it is enhanced in many aspects (beside tempo tracks) and usability and speed in creating something.

    Sure I have tried it and it’s not like NS2. It's complexity restricts creativity. Just my opinion ;)

    But the basic mechanisms are exactly the same!

    Draw notes in, enlarge or shorten them, move them around.

    What is complex here?!? 😳

    You're focusing only on the sequencer part (which aside from not having tempo tracks I agree is superior in X2).

    I think the advantage for some is that in NanoStudio you don't have to have another host to run your audio plugins, with all the complications of connections, switching between apps, and saving sessions separately. With a DAW you can more easily sit down and start creating without having to spend time on wiring things together.

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