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Best 6 op FM synth on iOS?

I just realized my only FM synths are either 4 op (FM essential, Omega), sample based (FM Player), or very specialized (OPL, SyncalvierGo, id700) so I’m looking to buy a solid 6 op app and it seems like the top 2 are Nambu and KQ Dixie - which is considerably cheaper. Curious what everyone’s thoughts are? Also am I missing an app?

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  • I love Aparillo fwiw.

  • @echoopera said:
    I love Aparillo fwiw.

    I also have (and adore) Aparillo but it also sorta falls into the specialized and not 6 operator category. I’m more so after something that can do all those classic 6 op FM sounds.

  • I don’t own it but always considered it when I got interested in exploring FM.
    It was recommended the most.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nfm/id1247473972

  • @HotStrange said:

    @echoopera said:
    I love Aparillo fwiw.

    I also have (and adore) Aparillo but it also sorta falls into the specialized and not 6 operator category. I’m more so after something that can do all those classic 6 op FM sounds.

    If you are after classic op6 soumds, KQ Dixie can load DX7 patches of which thousands are available on the net.

  • Phasemaker has 6 operators too.

  • Nambu is more than a 6-op FM synth. Phasemaker is great. There are others, too. If your main interest is classic FM sounds Dixie is worth having because it gives you direct access to wealth of readily available patches.

    If you are more into creating your own patches Phasemaker or NFM and Nambu are great. Nambu is an excellent and versatile synth but wouldn't be my choice if creating the classic sounds was my jam.

  • @CracklePot said:
    I don’t own it but always considered it when I got interested in exploring FM.
    It was recommended the most.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nfm/id1247473972

    Thanks! I knew there was a couple I was missing. I love Mela 3 so I’m sure this one is great.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    Nambu is more than a 6-op FM synth. Phasemaker is great. There are others, too. If your main interest is classic FM sounds Dixie is worth having because it gives you direct access to wealth of readily available patches.

    If you are more into creating your own patches Phasemaker or NFM and Nambu are great. Nambu is an excellent and versatile synth but wouldn't be my choice if creating the classic sounds was my jam.

    I did know that about about Dixie and it’s a big selling point, however I do also want to experiment and make my own patches. Is Dixie’s interface bad for this? Phasemaker and NFM look very intuitive (for fm that is).

    Also Nambu seems amazing and I love all of Iceworks other synths, I think I own them all except that one, so I’ll definitely get it one day, but the other 3 are cheaper and more up my alley for the moment. Any thoughts between Phasemaker, NFM, and Dixie?

  • @CracklePot said:
    Phasemaker has 6 operators too.

    Can’t believe I forgot that one. How is it?

  • @HotStrange said:

    @CracklePot said:
    Phasemaker has 6 operators too.

    Can’t believe I forgot that one. How is it?

    I really like it. Simple, but plenty of options. The interface isn’t confusing. I already had it and just ended up using it to explore FM, is why I never picked up NFM.
    It has a randomizer too.
    Can’t go wrong with any Brambos app.

  • @CracklePot said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @CracklePot said:
    Phasemaker has 6 operators too.

    Can’t believe I forgot that one. How is it?

    I really like it. Simple, but plenty of options. The interface isn’t confusing. I already had it and just ended up using it to explore FM, is why I never picked up NFM.
    It has a randomizer too.
    Can’t go wrong with any Brambos app.

    That’s actually one of the only apps of his I down own. That and Moziac. And having a randomizer on an FM synth is pretty fantastic. I’m gonna have to watch some videos of each but that and Dixie are the top 2 contenders right now I think.

  • I’m noticing both Phasemaker and NFM haven’t really been updated in 4 and 3 years respectively. Are there any known issues? Dixie was just updated recently and Nambu is a newer app so maybe one of those would be the better option.

  • edited March 2023

    +1 on NFM for creating my own sounds.
    It might not have been updated for a while but why should it, as it's running without issues standalone and in AUv3 .
    I do like Phasemaker quite a bit but as much as I like its simplicity, I find it a bit too limiting compared to NFM.

  • For me it's KQ Dixie all the way for 6OP FM.
    Nambu is another strong contender here but it does so much more than just 'FM' :sunglasses:

  • wimwim
    edited March 2023

    IMO, anyone into FM should have KQ Dixie. It’s a rite of passage. PhaseMaker is the easy entry point if you don’t know about FM. All the rest (Nambu is my fav) are for stretching your wings after that. But Everyone should have KQ.

    Btw Drambo is good for FM too. (Sorry, it had to be said.)

  • wimwim
    edited March 2023

    As for the question about KQ’s interface. I think it’s really good. It’ll take you longer to get your head around the goofy preset management system than the rest of the synth IMO.

  • @wim said:

    Btw Drambo is good for FM too. (Sorry, it had to be said.)

    True but it's a lot of 're-patching' for the different 'algorithms' when using multiple operators but once you have your favorite patched (mine's a simple 2OP) it's quite straight forward even though the envelopes are quite simple in the FM operator module.

  • Exactly :+1:
    It‘s an extremely convenient editor for classic patches and it can control real 6-OP FM hardware in realtime.

  • NFM has easier envelope editing and completely free routing between operators, including feedback.
    That's why I prefer it over KQ Dixie for sound design.
    As a Dx7 preset player, Dixie is unbeatable 😊

  • edited March 2023

    I’ll be honest, Dixie’s look kinda makes me not want it regardless of how good it may be. I couldn’t use it for too long …there’s a reason I use dark mode anytime it’s available … it’s too bright and would hurt my eyes

    As for FM, I really dig the hell out of Omega. I can make some killer mid 80s arcade sounding tracks with that puppy, especially if I pair it with Synclavier Go,

  • @espiegel123 said:
    NFM has easier envelope editing and completely free routing between operators, including feedback.
    That's why I prefer it over KQ Dixie for sound design.

    Yeah exactly, it reminds me NI FM7 .. it's UI is much more straightforward than Dixie. Dixie is very conservatively holding to old DX7 structure of parameters which is understandably intentional and it's both strong but also weak side of this synth.

  • @rs2000 said:
    +1 on NFM for creating my own sounds.
    It might not have been updated for a while but why should it, as it's running without issues standalone and in AUv3 .
    I do like Phasemaker quite a bit but as much as I like its simplicity, I find it a bit too limiting compared to NFM.

    Yeah I noticed the recent reviews on it were still great, and the dev does a great job with Mela so I have faith in it. Kinda kicking myself for not buying when it was on sale a little while ago.

  • @wim said:
    IMO, anyone into FM should have KQ Dixie. It’s a rite of passage. PhaseMaker is the easy entry point if you don’t know about FM. All the rest (Nambu is my fav) are for stretching your wings after that. But Everyone should have KQ.

    Btw Drambo is good for FM too. (Sorry, it had to be said.)

    Thanks! I love their other apps, MiniSynth and the Korg clones are fantastic. Had those apps for so long now. Not sure why I haven’t bought Dixie yet tbh. And it just had an update 6 days ago!

    I think Phasemaker may be a bit too limited for me though. As much as I love Brams other apps. Think I have them all 😅

  • @rs2000 said:
    NFM has easier envelope editing and completely free routing between operators, including feedback.
    That's why I prefer it over KQ Dixie for sound design.
    As a Dx7 preset player, Dixie is unbeatable 😊

    The envelope editing and custom algorithms are the biggest selling points of NFM for me honestly. It’s a very close call between the 2 right now.

  • @Fear2Stop said:
    I’ll be honest, Dixie’s look kinda makes me not want it regardless of how good it may be. I couldn’t use it for too long …there’s a reason I use dark mode anytime it’s available … it’s too bright and would hurt my eyes

    As for FM, I really dig the hell out of Omega. I can make some killer mid 80s arcade sounding tracks with that puppy, especially if I pair it with Synclavier Go,

    Dixie has multiple themes :sunglasses:

  • Not a distraction, no, it isn’t, a distraction isn’t what this is

  • Great project @u0421793!

  • @wim said:
    IMO, anyone into FM should have KQ Dixie. It’s a rite of passage.

    Agreed.
    It's todays DXi :lol: (that was 4op only though)

  • The great thing about KQ Dixie which no other iOS fm synth can do is multiple layers and multi-out. You can stack 16 different patches on top of each other and route each of those to different fx.

    So you can basically emulate a Yamaha TX816.

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