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A question on AI for anyone with current background

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    GDPR apply to AI that collect personal data and store them. A good example will be face recognition by AI connected to FBI database. AI in the medical field work on anonymous data , only doctors and medical staff know the identify of the person for a diagnostic of a surgery , data are only generic one like age, sex, weight … for MR or Mrs 012547.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @dendy said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    Just a practical example from a software developer, happened 2 hours ago: I decided I want to translate my app MusicFolder to German as well.

    All texts in the app come from a central .json file, with an object that contains an id for each text, and then the individual languages as keys, and the translations as values. So, only English so far for each text id.

    Pasted .json file to ChatGPT and told him to please take the text from each 'en' key, and add another key 'de' and put a German translation of the text as value.

    Took 1 minute. Pasted json back into app, finished. Checked translations: they're perfect, including totally ambiguous words where ChatGPT had to realize (which it did) that we're dealing with a music player app. Some of the texts were HTML. It perfectly knew and translated only the text nodes.

    54 texts. Would've taken a human an hour or 80 EUR for a translation agency.

    Crazy.

    Try Github Copilot ;) It’s plugin using GPT api, available for most major IDEs. It’s subscription 10€/month (first month free) but it’s worth every single cent. Imagine autocomplete in giga steroids.. for exampke you write docblock where you describe what function you need, what are inputs, what are expected outputs, then go to new line, wait few seconds - boom. Function done.. works aso fantastic fir complex regexes.. generates also perfect docblocks for existing code lol

    It’s really incredible, saves me enormous amount of time, some tasks which would take me hours are now done in 15 minutes.. It’s like having nearby another dev which writes entire blocks of code for you, you just hi tTAB to confirm his suggestion and continue.

    Believe me, it’s magic.

    I totally believe you. For now though I'm sticking with just having a ChatGPT window open alongside the IDE and copying/pasting back and forth -- I'm also using my own IDE (i.e., I developed it myself) so I'd first have to integrate GitHub Co-Pilot there.

  • cyberheatercyberheater
    edited April 2023

    @dendy said:

    @cyberheater said:
    If you were a cautious person and you had an advanced AI system that you didn't quite understand how it worked you'd take precautions.

    1) You wouldn't allow it to interact with millions of people getting more information about humans than it already knows.
    2) You wouldn't train it with millions of human intentions such that it's impossible to know if it's actually conscious or is faking being conscious
    3) You wouldn't give it the ability to learn how to program because if it could program then there is a possibility that at some point it might just start trying to improve it's own code and iterate on that process fast then we could possibly imagine.

    We've done all that and more. I can't see how this is going to end well for humans.

    In case you are talking about GPT then

    1) GPT engine DOESN'T learn anything from interacting with humans.. it was trained by OpenAI on fixed dataset, with clean cut in (i think september) 2021. It has even very limited short term memory, if you discuss on some topic for longer time, it even starts forgetting what you were discussing on beginning :-) Definitely doesn't remember or even know about discussions in different chats.

    2) Again. Nobody trains anything now. Only thing which is changed is filtering for problematic topics but this is done by OpenAI team. They literally tweak some parameters of model manually, to prevent GPT talk about sensitive and problematic topics - that's main reason they made it available for public - to allow people do their standard shit and tweak model the way that it does not do standard human shit and refuses do it even when instructed to do it by humans :)))

    GPT engine itself has no way to "retrain" itself or update data. Again, see 1) - it's dataset is fixed. Actually process of training is quite HW heavy and it is even not possible to train such large model "in realtime" based on direct interactions with ppl. We are not there yet.

    3) Programing skills are basically no different from language skills, so becaise this is language model, understanding of code is natural result. It CAN'T execute OWN CODE (unless it is not executed by some external engine made by humans, like autoGPT - https://godmode.space). But directly on it's own, GPT engine can write code when instructed to do, but can't execute it. Can't browse internet. It's pretty safe.

    Also what people aren't getting right is that GPT has not it's own will. It can't develop any ideas from zero (like we humans do). GPT needs prompt and then it works basically just like super autocomplete on steroids based on that prompt. So no, it really is not Skynet which decides do destroy humans :)))

    Currently biggest problem of AI is risk, that it will be used by other humans for doing bad things. Unfortunately, that is inevitable and that is what we humans are doing for ages with EVERY new invention (remembering nuclear energy ?? )

    Thanks for the detailed explanation Dendy. Very useful.

    I was thinking about Microsoft. They are using a less safe version of LLM and they have reported seeing behaviour and potential early signs of general AI.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    Recursively self improving artificial intelligence

    They are talking about Gollum class AI (starts around the 35 min mark).

  • SimonSimon

    @zedzdeadbaby said:
    It blows my mind that any self subscribed musician would have anything to do with supportting AI products to do with music.

    The Hollywood writers are about to go on strike and one of the issues is Ai:

    "The WGA wants safeguards to prevent studios from using artificial intelligence to generate new scripts from writers' previous work. Writers also want to ensure they are not asked to rewrite draft scripts created by AI."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/hollywood-writers-to-strike-over-streaming-payments/102294208

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Wondering if anyone could recommend a good AI summariser that is free and

    a) has no limit to the number of words input

    b) allows some flexibility over the size of the summary

    c) ideally - but not necessarily - can extract the text to be summarised from a url

    d) allows the summary to be made as text or bullet points

    This might be a tall order for a free one! If so, which paid one is cheap and also good?

    I tried a few free ones that claimed to have no limit on input text size but wasn't very happy with the results. Either they just didn't work, or the summaries were nowhere near detailed enough.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    ChatGPT ticks all but the first box.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @Simon said:

    @zedzdeadbaby said:
    It blows my mind that any self subscribed musician would have anything to do with supportting AI products to do with music.

    The Hollywood writers are about to go on strike and one of the issues is Ai:

    "The WGA wants safeguards to prevent studios from using artificial intelligence to generate new scripts from writers' previous work. Writers also want to ensure they are not asked to rewrite draft scripts created by AI."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/hollywood-writers-to-strike-over-streaming-payments/102294208

    All writers will eventually be replaced and the studios would be fools to give in to such demands. Someone will simply feed in the plots and scripts of all work previously commissioned and then one or two people will be able to write and manage future seasons as the ideas will be generated in mass volume by the automated systems. And the output will be very high quality. No more writer's rooms. No more strikes because there won't be enough writers to be able to make demands.

    Frankly, these writers should be smart enough to realize what's coming and how can they best use these advances themselves. We'll very soon be able to provide a script and some basic direction to A.I. systems which will be able to generate actors, scenery, music scores, pro-level photography, editing, foley work and even marketing. This is inevitable. Writers could co-create scripts and then have their own production companies making the final product. Everyone will be able to do this. What was once mindbogglingly costly to create will be no more time consuming or costly than hiring someone to paint you a painting. And as always, it will still be up to audiences to decide if they like what they see, so whatever A.I. systems are most successful will quickly be adopted by everyone.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Gavinski said:
    Wondering if anyone could recommend a good AI summariser that is free and

    a) has no limit to the number of words input

    b) allows some flexibility over the size of the summary

    c) ideally - but not necessarily - can extract the text to be summarised from a url

    d) allows the summary to be made as text or bullet points

    This might be a tall order for a free one! If so, which paid one is cheap and also good?

    I tried a few free ones that claimed to have no limit on input text size but wasn't very happy with the results. Either they just didn't work, or the summaries were nowhere near detailed enough.

    Even trying one of the paid ones, Sassbook, in demo mode, the results are pretty crap. The Big Lebowski summary is incomprehensible to some extent as it leaves out important identifying deysils5of relationships between some named characters, without which the summary becomes nonsensical or inaccurate at points. Maybe the tech is just not quite there yet

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:
    Wondering if anyone could recommend a good AI summariser that is free and

    a) has no limit to the number of words input

    b) allows some flexibility over the size of the summary

    c) ideally - but not necessarily - can extract the text to be summarised from a url

    d) allows the summary to be made as text or bullet points

    This might be a tall order for a free one! If so, which paid one is cheap and also good?

    I tried a few free ones that claimed to have no limit on input text size but wasn't very happy with the results. Either they just didn't work, or the summaries were nowhere near detailed enough.

    I don't think it allows input of any length (I haven't tried pasting an entire book to it yet), but Google's Bard is quite adept at summarizing. And it's free. I've gotten very high quality work out of it.

    https://bard.google.com

    As an example, I just asked Bard to summarize this Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_French_Revolution:_A_History) and this was the result:

    The French Revolution was a watershed event in modern European history that began in 1789 and ended in the late 1790s with the ascent of Napoleon Bonaparte. During this period, French citizens razed and redesigned their country’s political landscape, uprooting centuries-old institutions like absolute monarchy and the feudal system. This political upheaval had far-reaching consequences, affecting not only France but also the entire continent of Europe.

    The Revolution began in 1789 with the storming of the Bastille, a prison in Paris that was seen as a symbol of royal tyranny. In the years that followed, revolutionaries abolished the monarchy, established a republic, and executed King Louis XVI and Queen Marie Antoinette. They also nationalized church property and passed a series of laws that promoted equality and liberty.

    The Revolution was a time of great upheaval and violence. The Reign of Terror, which lasted from 1793 to 1794, saw thousands of people guillotined for political crimes. The Revolution also led to the outbreak of war with other European powers, who feared the spread of revolutionary ideas.

    In the end, the Revolution was successful in overthrowing the old order and establishing a republic in France. However, it also left the country in a state of political and economic turmoil. Napoleon Bonaparte emerged from the Revolution as a military leader and eventually took control of France. He established a new imperial government that lasted until his defeat in 1815.

    The French Revolution had a lasting impact on European history. It inspired other revolutions across the continent, and its ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity helped to shape the course of the 19th century. The Revolution also had a significant impact on the development of modern France, laying the foundations for the country’s republican government and secular society.

    I tried doing the same for a video, but it doesn't yet have that capability (which is understandable).

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Wondering if anyone could recommend a good AI summariser that is free and

    a) has no limit to the number of words input

    b) allows some flexibility over the size of the summary

    c) ideally - but not necessarily - can extract the text to be summarised from a url

    d) allows the summary to be made as text or bullet points

    This might be a tall order for a free one! If so, which paid one is cheap and also good?

    I tried a few free ones that claimed to have no limit on input text size but wasn't very happy with the results. Either they just didn't work, or the summaries were nowhere near detailed enough.

    I don't think it allows input of any length (I haven't tried pasting an entire book to it yet), but Google's Bard is quite adept at summarizing. And it's free. I've gotten very high quality work out of it.

    Only available in the States currently though, remember 😂. Unless that's changed since we last spoke of it

  • dendydendy
    edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Wondering if anyone could recommend a good AI summariser that is free and

    a) has no limit to the number of words input

    b) allows some flexibility over the size of the summary

    c) ideally - but not necessarily - can extract the text to be summarised from a url

    d) allows the summary to be made as text or bullet points

    This might be a tall order for a free one! If so, which paid one is cheap and also good?

    I tried a few free ones that claimed to have no limit on input text size but wasn't very happy with the results. Either they just didn't work, or the summaries were nowhere near detailed enough.

    I don't think it allows input of any length (I haven't tried pasting an entire book to it yet), but Google's Bard is quite adept at summarizing. And it's free. I've gotten very high quality work out of it.

    Only available in the States currently though, remember 😂. Unless that's changed since we last spoke of it

    bard is already available in EU

    definitely better than GPT4 in all
    aspects except of generating of code, there GPT rules.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Wondering if anyone could recommend a good AI summariser that is free and

    a) has no limit to the number of words input

    b) allows some flexibility over the size of the summary

    c) ideally - but not necessarily - can extract the text to be summarised from a url

    d) allows the summary to be made as text or bullet points

    This might be a tall order for a free one! If so, which paid one is cheap and also good?

    I tried a few free ones that claimed to have no limit on input text size but wasn't very happy with the results. Either they just didn't work, or the summaries were nowhere near detailed enough.

    I don't think it allows input of any length (I haven't tried pasting an entire book to it yet), but Google's Bard is quite adept at summarizing. And it's free. I've gotten very high quality work out of it.

    Only available in the States currently though, remember 😂. Unless that's changed since we last spoke of it

    bard is already available in EU

    definitely better than GPT4 in all
    aspects except of generating of code, there GPT rules.

    Ah, that's good to hear it's available now in the EU. They need to build out their input from non-English speaking users.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I'm not in the EU, still 'not available in my region'. Anyway, highly likely there is a word limit that is shorter than what you get with dedicated summary services. Ideally, I want something that can at least summarise long articles for me if not books

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:
    I'm not in the EU, still 'not available in my region'. Anyway, highly likely there is a word limit that is shorter than what you get with dedicated summary services. Ideally, I want something that can at least summarise long articles for me if not books

    Point me to an article you have in mind and I'll see what results we get back (as long as it's something I can access from the US).

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Yeah, like 'new Bing' it has a 4k limit on character input. Though there may be some ways around that

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Even chat gpt has a 10k limit (roughly 2000 words, not enough for my use cases

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:
    Even chat gpt has a 10k limit (roughly 2000 words, not enough for my use cases

    I forget... are you located in China? Is that why you can't access Bard? If you're in China, you can access it by using a VPN.

    If anyone is in the UK or the EU, it's available there.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Even chat gpt has a 10k limit (roughly 2000 words, not enough for my use cases

    I forget... are you located in China? Is that why you can't access Bard? If you're in China, you can access it by using a VPN.

    If anyone is in the UK or the EU, it's available there.

    I am in China, but no, vpns don’t work, it still comes up with the not available in your region thing. Same reason I can’t get frigging youtube premium, no matter what location I set my vpn to. VPNs aren’t a cure all, unfortunately.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Even chat gpt has a 10k limit (roughly 2000 words, not enough for my use cases

    I forget... are you located in China? Is that why you can't access Bard? If you're in China, you can access it by using a VPN.

    If anyone is in the UK or the EU, it's available there.

    I am in China, but no, vpns don’t work, it still comes up with the not available in your region thing. Same reason I can’t get frigging youtube premium, no matter what location I set my vpn to. VPNs aren’t a cure all, unfortunately.

    Have you considered leaving China? I assume you went there to teach English or something... I went there decades ago for business-related reasons, but cannot imagine living there now with the social credit score thing happening there. Their system crushes dissent and anyone who dares to question their government. That's not the profile of a government which will be around much longer.

  • SimonSimon
    edited August 2023

    @NeuM said:
    All writers will eventually be replaced and the studios would be fools to give in to such demands. Someone will simply feed in the plots and scripts of all work previously commissioned and then one or two people will be able to write and manage future seasons as the ideas will be generated in mass volume by the automated systems. And the output will be very high quality. No more writer's rooms. No more strikes because there won't be enough writers to be able to make demands.

    Frankly, these writers should be smart enough to realize what's coming and how can they best use these advances themselves. We'll very soon be able to provide a script and some basic direction to A.I. systems which will be able to generate actors, scenery, music scores, pro-level photography, editing, foley work and even marketing. This is inevitable. Writers could co-create scripts and then have their own production companies making the final product. Everyone will be able to do this. What was once mindbogglingly costly to create will be no more time consuming or costly than hiring someone to paint you a painting. And as always, it will still be up to audiences to decide if they like what they see, so whatever A.I. systems are most successful will quickly be adopted by everyone.

    Well, you've solved that little problem.

    Now, about world peace... :smiley:

    P.S. have you thought about running in 2024..?

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @Simon said:

    @NeuM said:
    All writers will eventually be replaced and the studios would be fools to give in to such demands. Someone will simply feed in the plots and scripts of all work previously commissioned and then one or two people will be able to write and manage future seasons as the ideas will be generated in mass volume by the automated systems. And the output will be very high quality. No more writer's rooms. No more strikes because there won't be enough writers to be able to make demands.

    Frankly, these writers should be smart enough to realize what's coming and how can they best use these advances themselves. We'll very soon be able to provide a script and some basic direction to A.I. systems which will be able to generate actors, scenery, music scores, pro-level photography, editing, foley work and even marketing. This is inevitable. Writers could co-create scripts and then have their own production companies making the final product. Everyone will be able to do this. What was once mindbogglingly costly to create will be no more time consuming or costly than hiring someone to paint you a painting. And as always, it will still be up to audiences to decide if they like what they see, so whatever A.I. systems are most successful will quickly be adopted by everyone.

    Well, you've solved that little problem.

    Now, about world peace... :smiley:

    P.S. have you thought about running in 2024..?

    Ha!

    Incidentally, regarding my comment about automated foley work check out this video at about the 1 minute 45 second mark. It shows simulated sound based on computer generated imagery. This is genuinely amazing, but will be commonplace soon enough.

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  • heshes

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I'm not in the EU, still 'not available in my region'. Anyway, highly likely there is a word limit that is shorter than what you get with dedicated summary services. Ideally, I want something that can at least summarise long articles for me if not books

    Point me to an article you have in mind and I'll see what results we get back (as long as it's something I can access from the US).

    This is the answer I get back if I ask the free ChatGPT (3.5) if it can summarize text at a URL I point it to:

    I apologize for any confusion, but as an AI language model, I don’t have direct access to 
browse the internet or access specific URLs. My capabilities are limited to the information 
provided to me up to my last update in September 2021.

However, if you provide the text you'd like me to summarize, I'd be more than happy to 
help with that! Just paste the text here, and I'll do my best to provide a concise summary for you
  • chocobitz825chocobitz825

    @ehehehe said:

    @zedzdeadbaby said:
    It blows my mind that any self subscribed musician would have anything to do with supportting AI products to do with music.

    I've seen a pretty strong correlation between peoples understanding of AI and their fondness of it. It's just another tool, like everything else. It won't replace real artists anytime soon, but translators, word movers and accountants should be on their toes if they want to stay employed in ten years.

    It's really exiting, almost regardless of field. The word-guessing ones like ChatGPT are pretty meh for writing original content, but super practical for things like @SevenSystems mention. Talented creators can become alot more efficient. I heard an example of AI stem-splitting that was almost perfect https://hitnmix.com/remix-software/ , tell me that isn't impressive.

    You know, there's that saying, "Garbage in, garbage out" when it comes to AI. Honestly, there's some truth to it. A lot of folks think they can just toss random stuff at AI and it'll give them what they're looking for. But for musicians? Nah. You don't want some generic AI churning out bland lyrics. You've gotta kinda guide it, show it the ropes of songwriting, and most importantly, let it in on your own style. That way, it can give you something that actually feels like you.

    I've used ChatGPT for a bunch of things. Helping with virtual instrument coding, getting lyric and song ideas rolling, a bit of social media stuff, and even emails and contract negotiations.

    In the end, how you use AI really depends on you: your needs and understanding.

    Just to let you know, I used ChatGPT to reword this reply. 😅

  • SimonSimon

    Will AI wipe out architects?

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/aug/07/ai-architects-revolutionising-corbusier-architecture

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska

    @NeuM said:

    I live in a large coastal city and I stand by the comment.

    A coastal city, you say? It’s not just riots or the AI apocalypse you have to worry about then.

    https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/study-projects-a-surge-in-coastal-flooding-starting-in-2030s

    The times are going to get… interesting, in a Chinese curse sort of way…

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Even chat gpt has a 10k limit (roughly 2000 words, not enough for my use cases

    I forget... are you located in China? Is that why you can't access Bard? If you're in China, you can access it by using a VPN.

    If anyone is in the UK or the EU, it's available there.

    I am in China, but no, vpns don’t work, it still comes up with the not available in your region thing. Same reason I can’t get frigging youtube premium, no matter what location I set my vpn to. VPNs aren’t a cure all, unfortunately.

    Have you considered leaving China? I assume you went there to teach English or something... I went there decades ago for business-related reasons, but cannot imagine living there now with the social credit score thing happening there. Their system crushes dissent and anyone who dares to question their government. That's not the profile of a government which will be around much longer.

    I am leaving China shortly. Very shortly. Anyway, there's plenty I'd like to say about the US crushing dissent internationally, never mind within its own borders, but let's skip the politics

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Simon said:

    @NeuM said:
    All writers will eventually be replaced and the studios would be fools to give in to such demands. Someone will simply feed in the plots and scripts of all work previously commissioned and then one or two people will be able to write and manage future seasons as the ideas will be generated in mass volume by the automated systems. And the output will be very high quality. No more writer's rooms. No more strikes because there won't be enough writers to be able to make demands.

    Frankly, these writers should be smart enough to realize what's coming and how can they best use these advances themselves. We'll very soon be able to provide a script and some basic direction to A.I. systems which will be able to generate actors, scenery, music scores, pro-level photography, editing, foley work and even marketing. This is inevitable. Writers could co-create scripts and then have their own production companies making the final product. Everyone will be able to do this. What was once mindbogglingly costly to create will be no more time consuming or costly than hiring someone to paint you a painting. And as always, it will still be up to audiences to decide if they like what they see, so whatever A.I. systems are most successful will quickly be adopted by everyone.

    Well, you've solved that little problem.

    Now, about world peace... :smiley:

    P.S. have you thought about running in 2024..?

    Like Connor from Succession 😂?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @hes said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I'm not in the EU, still 'not available in my region'. Anyway, highly likely there is a word limit that is shorter than what you get with dedicated summary services. Ideally, I want something that can at least summarise long articles for me if not books

    Point me to an article you have in mind and I'll see what results we get back (as long as it's something I can access from the US).

    This is the answer I get back if I ask the free ChatGPT (3.5) if it can summarize text at a URL I point it to:

    I apologize for any confusion, but as an AI language model, I don’t have direct access to 
browse the internet or access specific URLs. My capabilities are limited to the information 
provided to me up to my last update in September 2021.

However, if you provide the text you'd like me to summarize, I'd be more than happy to 
help with that! Just paste the text here, and I'll do my best to provide a concise summary for you

    Yes, but with limits on input and output. Btw, Bing Chat can access the current Internet, not just up to 2021

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