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Pianoteq 8 is now on the AppStore

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  • @wim said:
    Has anyone tried this on older hardware such as an iPad Air 2? JAX pianos sound as good as I'll ever need, but the Air 2 really can't handle them.

    Answered my own question. It's much lighter on CPU and is actually pretty usable on the Air 2 - tops out at about 55% CPU most of the time regardless of polyphony. Far better than JAX.

    I guess I'll have to wrestle with whether I can justify the expense when I can't honestly say I even need a high quality piano. Would be nice to free up the space though and will help to forestall an expensive iPad upgrade for some more time.

  • @McD said:
    Modartt’s PianoTeq’ pricing model is “True Universal” - iPhone, iPad, Mac (M series and Intel). Is there another app that covers all 4 for one price?

    Plus Linux. Many people are happily running Pianoteq on their Raspberry Pi with various Linux distributions.

  • @hes said:

    @McD said:
    Modartt’s PianoTeq’ pricing model is “True Universal” - iPhone, iPad, Mac (M series and Intel). Is there another app that covers all 4 for one price?

    Plus Linux. Many people are happily running Pianoteq on their Raspberry Pi with various Linux distributions.

    That could be fun.

  • heshes
    edited May 2023

    @wim said:

    @wim said:
    Has anyone tried this on older hardware such as an iPad Air 2? JAX pianos sound as good as I'll ever need, but the Air 2 really can't handle them.

    Answered my own question. It's much lighter on CPU and is actually pretty usable on the Air 2 - tops out at about 55% CPU most of the time regardless of polyphony. Far better than JAX.

    I guess I'll have to wrestle with whether I can justify the expense when I can't honestly say I even need a high quality piano. Would be nice to free up the space though and will help to forestall an expensive iPad upgrade for some more time.

    Maybe a general purpose piano pack along with the guitar as your two packs? I'm curious to see whether any iOS types start doing some crazy modeling settings to get Pianoteq sounding very un-piano-like. I think you'd need standard version if you want to get serious about that, though Stage allows lots of tweaking and you can experiment before you buy. Just plain polyphonic pitch-bend on piano is something quite strange.

    Here's video that touches on the (partial) MPE compatibility with Pianoteq guitar:

  • @hes said:

    @wim said:

    @wim said:
    Has anyone tried this on older hardware such as an iPad Air 2? JAX pianos sound as good as I'll ever need, but the Air 2 really can't handle them.

    Answered my own question. It's much lighter on CPU and is actually pretty usable on the Air 2 - tops out at about 55% CPU most of the time regardless of polyphony. Far better than JAX.

    I guess I'll have to wrestle with whether I can justify the expense when I can't honestly say I even need a high quality piano. Would be nice to free up the space though and will help to forestall an expensive iPad upgrade for some more time.

    Maybe a general purpose piano pack along with the guitar as your two packs? Pianoteq is MPE enabled, so I'm curious to see whether any iOS types start doing some crazy modeling settings to get it sounding very un-piano-like. I think you'd need standard version if you want to get serious about that, though Stage allows lots of tweaking and you can experiment before you buy. Just plain polyphonic pitch-bend on piano is something quite strange.

    Here's video that touches on MPE with Pianoteq guitar:

    Is pianoteq really fully mpe? How do you assign slide, aftertouch etc? A quick Google search just now seemed to show that it is not fully mpe but that when you use an mpe keyboard to play it you'll be able to get pitch bend - but that's not equivalent to full mpe. I do hope I'm wrong about this though, it would be incredible if this was fully mpe.

  • heshes
    edited May 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @hes said:

    @wim said:

    @wim said:
    Has anyone tried this on older hardware such as an iPad Air 2? JAX pianos sound as good as I'll ever need, but the Air 2 really can't handle them.

    Answered my own question. It's much lighter on CPU and is actually pretty usable on the Air 2 - tops out at about 55% CPU most of the time regardless of polyphony. Far better than JAX.

    I guess I'll have to wrestle with whether I can justify the expense when I can't honestly say I even need a high quality piano. Would be nice to free up the space though and will help to forestall an expensive iPad upgrade for some more time.

    Maybe a general purpose piano pack along with the guitar as your two packs? Pianoteq is MPE enabled, so I'm curious to see whether any iOS types start doing some crazy modeling settings to get it sounding very un-piano-like. I think you'd need standard version if you want to get serious about that, though Stage allows lots of tweaking and you can experiment before you buy. Just plain polyphonic pitch-bend on piano is something quite strange.

    Here's video that touches on MPE with Pianoteq guitar:

    Is pianoteq really fully mpe? How do you assign slide, aftertouch etc? A quick Google search just now seemed to show that it is not fully mpe but that when you use an mpe keyboard to play it you'll be able to get pitch bend - but that's not equivalent to full mpe. I do hope I'm wrong about this though, it would be incredible if this was fully mpe.

    I haven't used it much as MPE. No, it is not fully MPE-compatible. By its very nature piano modelling models primarily the initial hit, you can change expression afterward via pitch bend, sustain, etc. to change the decaying tone. But you can't, e.g., use afterpressure to increase volume after a note has been hit. Polyphonic pitch bend slides of up to two octaves both up and down are totally possible; in midi this is accomplished by initial "Note On" and then pitch bend messages that give you continuous control over pitch variations based on that initial note (so it doesn't matter that notes themselves are discrete and can't slide from one to another on a keyboard).

  • It’s still not as expensive as DifferentDrummer when it first came out! 😜

  • That’s was lovely. Very expressive.

  • Going to try this out with the Jammy Guitar later. May upload the sound and see how it goes. Gotta dust off my Classical Gas

  • @McD said:
    Steel Drums and hand pans are NOT well served on IOS.

    DrumPerfectPro has a HandPan pack that (I think) is very good. (Just needed that out of my system)


    This app sounds amazing but the price is way out of my league. Even with a discount it'll be hard. As someone else said, need to start saving but at this rate with new awesome apps dropping every second day (it seems) it'll be tough.

  • @mjcouche said:
    Going to try this out with the Jammy Guitar later. May upload the sound and see how it goes. Gotta dust off my Classical Gas

    First thing I thought about; going to fire up the jammy when I get home. I think it’ll be a good match.

  • @MonkeyDrummer said:
    It’s still not as expensive as DifferentDrummer when it first came out! 😜

    Lmao I still remember my mind being blown when I first saw the price for that. I think I bought a couple years ago for VERY cheap. The interface is uhhh not great but it is powerful.

  • This is really a watershed moment for iOS. Not sure if I’ll ever need this, and I definitely can’t afford it right now, but I’m certainly gonna demo everything and I’m 100% glad it happened. Hoping this opens more eyes to how serious iOS production is/can be.

  • @MonkeyDrummer said:
    It’s still not as expensive as DifferentDrummer when it first came out! 😜

    But Drummer had waves man... waves!

  • edited May 2023

    This Piano sounds beautiful. Here’s A little meandering overly processed loop of course 🙏🏼💗

  • @hes said:

    @McD said:
    Modartt’s PianoTeq’ pricing model is “True Universal” - iPhone, iPad, Mac (M series and Intel). Is there another app that covers all 4 for one price?

    Plus Linux. Many people are happily running Pianoteq on their Raspberry Pi with various Linux distributions.

    And Windows too.
    Available platforms aside, I really like the slider that ages the instrument from Mint to Worn, and of course its effect on the sound!

  • Just chiming in to say I am also very impressed by the demo mode. I very rarely make it that low or high on the keyboard.

  • Wow okay. After trying the demo mode for a while I can see why one would splurge on this. It sounds fantastic. And the “worn” option is very cool. The steel pans and guitars are my favorites so far.

    I’m surprised at how generous the demo mode is. It’s not something I’m eager to purchase off the bat but I can see myself saving up for the full license for sure. Anyone know if they make any strings/brass models? Or is SWAM still the best out there for that?

  • I have a desktop license for Pianoteq 6 or 7, I don't remember which, but I haven't installed it on my new computer yet. I suppose I'd need to upgrade to Pianoteq 8 if I wanted to get the iPad version for free?

    Still deciding, I'm not sure how much I'd ever use it. I have a Yamaha digital piano, I usually used Pianoteq as a composition placeholder in Logic, later replaying the part on one of the Yamaha sampled pianos.

    Pianoteq is beautiful to play, though, it "feels" good.

  • edited May 2023

    @HotStrange said:
    Wow okay. After trying the demo mode for a while I can see why one would splurge on this. It sounds fantastic. And the “worn” option is very cool. The steel pans and guitars are my favorites so far.

    I’m surprised at how generous the demo mode is. It’s not something I’m eager to purchase off the bat but I can see myself saving up for the full license for sure. Anyone know if they make any strings/brass models? Or is SWAM still the best out there for that?

    Swam is best for that. Pianoteq seems not to do bowed / blown instruments - though if you stump out the money for Standard or Pro versions you can apparently tweak things to more closely approximate bowed instruments etc. I'm hoping modartt will give me a Standard licence at least so I could demo the tweaking possibilities, but not sure if they will, and it's really too expensive for me to justify paying for that upgrade myself. Even for top shelf desktop mpe synths like Equator 2, I don't think I've ever paid more than 100 bucks, for anything. Not to say it's not worth it, but if you get Pro you'll already have spent 390 bucks, as you need to get Standard before you get Pro. And for that you'll still only have 4 paid instrument packs! With Swam, you could have a bunch of different instruments for that money, albeit Swam keep all the really interesting aspects of the physical modeling tucked away, inaccessible to users. BTW, you can demo the Pro functionality in the Pianoteq app, but only for 20 mins I think. Not sure if it gives you repeated chances to demo, maybe it does, anyone know?

  • I don’t think this is for me. I mean the price is kinda forbidding if you’re not a professional piano player. Anyway I’m glad this is available on iOS, I remember when pianoteq first arrived on desktop and how ground breaking it was

  • There’s a free Yamaha CP-80 you can download as well if you have a license.

  • Also…

    "All your iOS devices will share the same activation slot (as long as you use the same apple id on them)."

  • Pianoteq is a bargain for a piano player. And now, with iOS version…the most powerful and expressive piano sound that you can carry on with a phone and a midi controller.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2023

    @OnfraySin said:
    Pianoteq is a bargain for a piano player. And now, with iOS version…the most powerful and expressive piano sound that you can carry on with a phone and a midi controller.

    I'm not convinced it's more expressive than the JAX pianos. But definitely a more confidence inspiring developer.

  • Must admit even with the demo version of Pianoteq 8 and missing lower keys. There appears to be a lot of mileage you can still get out of the app with not to much creative effort to use the great sounds.

  • So - the pro version and stage version trials have a 20 min cap forever, it seems. You don’t have to use that 20 mins all at once, you can pause the demo and however many minutes are still unused can be used next time. Given that you have so little time to assess things, you would definitely need to read up on the features beforehand, otherwise you’ll likely be a bit clueless

  • @Gavinski said:
    So - the pro version and stage version trials have a 20 min cap forever, it seems. You don’t have to use that 20 mins all at once, you can pause the demo and however many minutes are still unused can be used next time. Given that you have so little time to assess things, you would definitely need to read up on the features beforehand, otherwise you’ll likely be a bit clueless

    Is this outside of the demo mode it comes with? Like you can also unlock pro functions for a short period or it comes natively with the demo and the demo only lasts 20 mins?

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Wow okay. After trying the demo mode for a while I can see why one would splurge on this. It sounds fantastic. And the “worn” option is very cool. The steel pans and guitars are my favorites so far.

    I’m surprised at how generous the demo mode is. It’s not something I’m eager to purchase off the bat but I can see myself saving up for the full license for sure. Anyone know if they make any strings/brass models? Or is SWAM still the best out there for that?

    Swam is best for that. Pianoteq seems not to do bowed / blown instruments - though if you stump out the money for Standard or Pro versions you can apparently tweak things to more closely approximate bowed instruments etc. I'm hoping modartt will give me a Standard licence at least so I could demo the tweaking possibilities, but not sure if they will, and it's really too expensive for me to justify paying for that upgrade myself. Even for top shelf desktop mpe synths like Equator 2, I don't think I've ever paid more than 100 bucks, for anything. Not to say it's not worth it, but if you get Pro you'll already have spent 390 bucks, as you need to get Standard before you get Pro. And for that you'll still only have 4 paid instrument packs! With Swam, you could have a bunch of different instruments for that money, albeit Swam keep all the really interesting aspects of the physical modeling tucked away, inaccessible to users. BTW, you can demo the Pro functionality in the Pianoteq app, but only for 20 mins I think. Not sure if it gives you repeated chances to demo, maybe it does, anyone know?

    SWAM is definitely high on my list. I still need time for Pianoteq, but so far I really really like it. Do you know if you buy SWAM instruments in Geoshred you get them on their own or is that 2 separate purchases?

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